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July 8th, 2015, 04:24 PM
#21
So the tree huggers are up in arms because they only heard part of the story. What about the part before where that same CO had to kill the mother leaving those Cubs orphaned now.
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July 8th, 2015 04:24 PM
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July 8th, 2015, 04:45 PM
#22

Originally Posted by
robster
So the tree huggers are up in arms because they only heard part of the story. What about the part before where that same CO had to kill the mother leaving those Cubs orphaned now.
Good point. Why didn't they tranquilize the sow and start a trust fund for the entire family? Gotta be Harper's fault again.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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July 8th, 2015, 05:42 PM
#23
Many of the CO's support group have gone silent or are making excuses now that the rest of the story has come out.
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July 8th, 2015, 06:29 PM
#24
Someone took a stand for what he felt was right knowing there could be a reprimand.
That appears to be more then what some would do.
Make sure you have finished speaking before your audience has finished listening.
Dorothy Sarnoff
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July 8th, 2015, 06:46 PM
#25
It's a "no win" situation, damned if you do , damned if you don't!
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July 9th, 2015, 06:30 AM
#26
Well, the union stepped in and at least he'll still get his pay while under suspension....
over 44,000 signed the petition in one day...
A conservation officer who was suspended for refusing to kill two black bear cubs will now receive pay during the suspension, according to the B.C. Government and Service Employees’ Union.
An online petition started by the North Island Wildlife Recovery Association demanding Casavant be reinstated had garnered more than 44,000 signatures by Wednesday afternoon.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/conserv...cubs-1.2458939
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July 9th, 2015, 08:24 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
robster
So the tree huggers are up in arms because they only heard part of the story. What about the part before where that same CO had to kill the mother leaving those Cubs orphaned now.
Was it the same CO that killed the sow? If so, the guy's an complete idiot and should be fired.
If he wanted to take a moral stand, that would have been the time to do it.
As far as the 44,000 people that signed the petition....I'm thinking of Ontario's spring bear hunt ban - just because a bunch of uniformed people support something - doesn't make it right.
Last edited by werner.reiche; July 9th, 2015 at 09:23 AM.
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July 9th, 2015, 08:56 AM
#28
Like I said of all those people who petitioned, how many know the whole story? They don't take time to listen just go by a few captions then all hell broke loose!
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August 3rd, 2015, 03:39 PM
#29
I find this all a bit weird. Why was he suspended without pay? Was this his first time being insubordinate or did he develop a pattern? Obviously this is insubordination however, is the real problem with his superior? Why the investigation? The fact that his union was able to step in and get him pay while under suspension says a lot. If an employee is in fact guilty of insubordination and said employee was fully in the wrong then a company can discipline him however they feel is justifiable.
Knowing how the media works, we may never know the whole truth.
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August 28th, 2015, 02:24 PM
#30
update:
Well they sort of disciplined him...
wonder how the Unions appeal/arbitration will go.
Not disciplined, says government
Jamie Edwardson, spokesperson for the B.C. Public Service Agency, said that after reviewing the case, "No employee involved in this case has been subjected to any discipline."
The decision that resulted was to reassign the employee to an equivalent position within government, at no loss of salary, or classification.
But that did not sit well with the union.
"Casavant should not have been suspended, and he should not be transferred from his job as a conservation officer," Smith said, adding she can't disclose the details of his new position in order to allow the office to get on with day-to-day affairs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08...n_8055838.html