Canada in the Rough banned on Canadian TV

[trimmer21]

I still say that it's all about the m-o-n-e-y. Nothing more,nothing less. Politics has zilch to do with it.

[MikePal]

I still say that it's all about the m-o-n-e-y. Nothing more,nothing less. Politics has zilch to do with it.

Yup....the CRTC forced Networks to put these Hunt shows on the air with the Canadian content rules....now the CRTC relaxed the rules and the networks have a greater choice to pick what it will make money at, so they drop the 'poor' (financially) performers. Simple really.

[MikePal]

In fact, hunting is growing, which means that the recruitment failure does not, in fact, exist.

The numbers are horrible....the growth, if you want to call it that, is so low it has become difficult for the MNR to get the operational income it needs from the sales of licensing...ergo the recent $2 increase added to each transaction.

If the numbers don't outpace the cost of inflation then the cost of hunting in general will continue to increase, further driving those away from hunting. As you say the demographics have change and will never come back. Not with a growth of less than 1% a year in license sales.

[yellow dog]

MP are you a member of Delta or Ducks Unlimited ?

[welsh]

The MNR never got its operating budget from licence sales.

[MikePal]

The MNR never got its operating budget from licence sales.

Now your splitting hairs Welsh.....The money from Licenses fees goes in the SPA fund....from which the MNR draws the funds to conduct it's business/programs...

"The Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) is proposing new ways to increase revenue — and hunters and anglers will likely bear the brunt of it. An Environmental Bill of Rights (EBR) posting, which closes for comment on June 2, says that by 2015 the Special Purpose Account (SPA) that funds the MNR’s fish and wildlife programs, which cost $100-million to deliver, will not be able to keep up with shortfalls caused by changing licence purchases, inflation, and an older demographic. According to the posting, the SPA will have to reduce expenditures in 2015 to maintain a positive budget unless actions are taken to offset the shortfall. All of the proposed actions are outlined in this Sustainability Strategy for the Special Purpose Account (SPA), 2014-2019 document. In the 40-page document some of the proposed actions include the following:

read more; http://www.yakfisher.net/smffiles/in...p?topic=9446.0

[welsh]

And you're changing the subject.

What does the SPA have to do with the contention that taking CITR off the air is a disaster because hunting is experiencing a recruitment failure? I ask because this is the actual subject of discussion, and it's been shown that this supposed recruitment failure doesn't exist.

I've seen you do this a thousand times: stand up for some false claim, and when the claim is proven false, change the subject in a desperate attempt to be right about something. Sorry, but I'm not going to play. No recruitment failure, end of discussion.

[MikePal]

Well I wasn't having a discussion with you Welsh, Yellow Dog and I were discussing the increase of Hunters taking up Waterfowl...which was also off topic, but you know as well as I how that happens.

And yes, as I pointed out, if there are not enough new hunters buying licenses, the revenues will not support the requirements of the SPA fund and the cost of Hunting will be forced to increase (see my link above) across the board (as it already has) and that will have a determent to both recruitment and retention. False claim...I think not and my links prove it out, as does common sense.

Raise the cost of a deer to tag to $75..see's what happens to recruitment/retention.


Threatening to 'end' the discussion is meaningless (and rather presumptuous), since it had noting to do with you in the first place.