Hunting trophies: Delta, United and American ban transport

[MikePal]

. I am writing a letter to Air Canada this morning telling them that I regret using one of their flights last week to fly home from Saskatchewan, and I will assure them that I will not repeat the mistake in the future.

You do know Air Canada doesn't give a squat whether you fly with them or not....they never have...LOL..

Hunters amount to only about 3% of the population...in insignificant number for a carrier like them.

Why a hunter would ever darken their doorway in the first place has me amazed...they want $50 to 'allow' you to check your firearm.

Stick with Westjet...a Hunter friendly airline.

[MikePal]

One has to wonder if in the future the airlines might ban domestic flights with trophies (Elk, Mule, Other) etc. The EU has banned seal imports.........

Just creates another business opportunity;

Hunters and others looking to ship lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros and buffalo heads and other big-game trophies across the world still have options available, even as Delta Air Lines, American Airlines and Air Canada announced this week that they will no longer allow such cargo on their planes.

Shipments of hunting trophies are still allowed by United Parcel Service, a UPS spokeswoman told The Washington Post on Tuesday, noting that the global shipping giant follows U.S. and international laws, not public opinion, in determining what it will and won’t ship.

“There are many items shipped in international commerce that may spark controversy,” UPS public relations director Susan Rosenberg wrote in an e-mail. “The views on what is appropriate for shipment are as varied as the audiences that hold these views.

“UPS takes many factors under consideration in establishing its shipping policies, including the legality of the contents and additional procedures required to ensure compliance. We avoid making judgments on the appropriateness of the contents. All shipments must comply with all laws, including any relevant documentation from the shipper required in the origin and destination location of the shipments.”

[welsh]

We are only one tiny little step away from having the major carriers banning the transport of rifles on their flights.

No, we aren't.

Airlines could ban firearms from baggage with or without banning animal trophies. These things are unrelated. The idea that banning animal trophies somehow makes it easier to ban firearms, or makes such a ban more likely, is pure hogwash, a slippery slope argument.

A ban on animal trophies from the African big 5 does not represent a cowardly airline caving to the pressure of a tiny pressure group; it represents the board of that airline sharing the widespread public opinion that these particular animals ought not to be hunted. People who are otherwise in favour of hunting hold that view, as do some hunters. It does not follow that the airline is somehow more likely to ban firearms from checked baggage, or intends to do so, or would cave to pressure from a small, outlying pressure group to do so.

This only affects people who go hunting in Africa -- and it hardly affects them, as they have other options. There's no reason for us all to run in circles squealing that the sky is falling.

[JBen]

And yet

Cancellation of Sportsman show
CBC cancelling CiTR.
EU banning seal imports
AC banning trophy imports
Anti's are going after "Trophy" Grizzly hunts
If you visit Air Canada's website page Welsh, many many are asking AC when they will cancel Polar Bear, Bears and others.

Thank you Air Canada, It's a good start... Next, please ban big game trophies from Canada.

https://www.facebook.com/aircanada?fref=ts


I tend not to fall into the sky is falling crowd, however there's a disturbing

Trend.

Can we find examples of the opposite?

[Species8472]

Can we find examples of the opposite?

- Introduction of Elk hunting in Ontario in 2011
- Disappearance of the long-gun registry - we will see what happens after the next election
- Return of the spring bear hunt in Ontario - we will see what happens in 2016
- Bill c-42 - we will see what happens after the next election

Each of these are examples are trends in the other direction however you will note the caveats as their permanence is questionable.

[B Wilson]

I doubt Bearskin Airlines or Air Creebec will participate in any of these bans.

[JBen]

And given whats going on and given the Liberals penchance to go with just thing kind of stuff
gea
wind
gas plants
more.

Liking the odds the Spring hunt will expand? or continue?

Again, no don't think the sky is falling, but ground swells of public opinion and waves can and do..And its not as though the more extreme animal lovers, activist haven't won these battles and they are going after Grizzly Hunts, Polar Bears (have won a quasi battle with seals).....

[welsh]

The odds of the spring bear hunt continuing are very good. There's no downside for a Liberal government.

[JBen]

just talking about hunting Species (not the anti gun movement, or the Cons introductions).

would tend to agree Welsh. When they first opened it up, the reason for the two year trial was obvious to me.
Two years to test the winds of sentiment (just prior to the next election).. The data they might might hope to glean, over such a short time and with such a limited hunt is near meaningless.

Just saying.......If the winds continue, or more pressure is brought to bear....

[welsh]

Open season on mourning doves would be another example.