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August 8th, 2015, 08:39 AM
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Well I agree with that, completely 
Hence why, I sort of look at the "global picture"..
Again, not perfect and agree with much….
No improvement in infrastucture? Its more than just roads you know.
I don't know if federally even that can ever be traced down.
Lets also consider Harpers unreal wisdom with respect to the military, the far north, the north west passage.
Aware Russia just tried to lay claim to the North Pole?
I seem to recall many (especially left leaning people) ripping him for
F35s
Looking up there, spending in the military…
Looking way ahead…far further than many seem to be able to
more
They still don't see it…………….
How much do you think that has "cost" us.
Again, agree with many things, we can't look at them in bubbles or vacuums though.
Terrorism? Privacy things?
I know a little about this, only due to my industry.
It cost, lots and lots to keep us "safe"
Do you think things on that front will get better or worse (terrorism) over the next say 5-10 years?
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August 8th, 2015, 09:11 AM
#32
Has too much time on their hands
There are implications to who you cast your vote for, being a Harper hater
without a real reason is falling into the propaganda of those who have a
specific desire for what they want Canada to be. First what do you want your
gov't to be, honest? allow freedoms? more taxes? less freedoms? more
national debt?
Just a reminder here are a few things done by Conservatives that I think are good:
Harper takes a pension hit on new bill (Prime Minister Stephen Harper stands to
lose well over $1-million in retirement benefits extended to prime ministers
under pension reforms and MP retirment moved from 55 to 67)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4625835/
‘Lucky Moose Bill’ loosens self-defence, citizen’s arrest laws
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03...s-arrest-laws/
C-68 Long gun registry killed ($2,000,000,000 in waste finally dead)
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2..._registry.html
Conservatives’ gun law changes in C-42 would ease transportation restrictions,
require mandatory safety courses
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07...afety-courses/
NOTE*** But lets not forget the outright LIES from the leader of the LIbEral's
and on the Liberal's own page.
https://www.liberal.ca/lpc-opposes-cpc-gun-bill/
First Nation Financial Transparency Act First Nations are now required to post
chiefs’ and councillors’ salaries online
http://globalnews.ca/news/1480609/fi...laries-online/
Bill C-525 Passed
Passed last December the bill gives workers in federal workplace jurisdiction
the right to a secret ballot to certify or decertify a union in their workplace.
Bill C-377 Passed
This bill passed and would require unions to disclose how they spend the
billions in dues money collected off workers paycheques each year.
* Unions hate the protection for workers and the disclosure of these bills and
both these and Liberals and NDP opposed them.
Crack downs on Immigration Fraud.. Blatant lying loses family its citizenship —
but earns them a $63K bill from Canadian government
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07...an-government/
National dementia research initiative gets $31.5M federal funding
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/nation...ding-1.2762253
Federal government wants to force big telecom to stop charging extra for a
monthly bill on paper
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08...bill-on-paper/
Ottawa unveils proposals to relieve taxpayers from covering bank bailouts
http://business.financialpost.com/20...bank-bailouts/
Canada launches plan to extend high-speed Internet to remote areas
http://www.bnn.ca/News/2014/7/22/Can...ote-areas.aspx
Health Canada is proposing changes to nutrition labels on food that would make
them easier to read
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/nutrit...oses-1.2706310
Domestic wireless roaming fees to be capped
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/do...pped-1.2468642
Pre-paid creditcards won't be allowed to expire under new rules proposed today
by Ottawa
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/prep...down-1.2448929
Canada and Europe sign historic trade deal
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana...deal-1.2125122
Harper government offers student loan forgiveness to family doctors and nurses
working in 4,200 rural communities
http://news.gc.ca/web/article-eng.do...dex&nid=713369
Harper government raising liability for nuclear, offshore oil & gas operators to
$1 billion from previous $75 million
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ottaw...o-1b-1.1662637
Harper rejects calls to bail out eurozone
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/08...g-with-harper/
All-in airline ticket pricing now in effect for ads
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor...t-pricing.html
Ottawa invests millions to promote tourism in Atlantic Canada
http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ot...nada-1.1024952
P.E.I. small craft harbours to get $3.5M for repairs
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince...bours-584.html
Ottawa to allow credit unions to more easily go national: Flaherty
http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/Busines...%3A-Flaherty/1
Brain research in Canada gets $100 million boost from Ottawa
http://www.moneyville.ca/article/117...st-from-ottawa
Canada to fund research into making medical isotopes
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85L10520120622
Tories back Ontario MP’s bid to prevent bulk water exports
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2434670/
Contaminated site cleanup boosted by Ottawa, 1,100 sites targeted as $1 billion
to be spent over the next 3 years
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...up-canada.html
Ottawa pledges more than $140-million to establish first urban national park
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2443461/
Ottawa tables bill to give EI benefits to parents of sick kids
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...59/?cmpid=rss1
Ottawa establishes task force on employing people with disabilities
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ottaw...ities-1.897110
Ottawa revoking citizenship of more than 3,000 after fraud investigation
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4532222/
Ottawa tackles fraudulent use of Canadian student visas
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2012/0...student-visas/
Conservative bill tackles polygamy, forced marriage among immigrants
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...tive_bill.html
Or how about more tax savings (some of which the Liberals have openly said they
would remove or reduce)...
TSFA accounts,
Registered Disability Savings Plan,
Universal Child Care Benefit,
Income splitting (allowing a spouse to stay home if needed for children, older
parents...) ,
increased tax credits for kids sports and programs etc.
http://www.taxplanningguide.ca/tax-p...amily-members/
Some other items you can include in my view so far allowing new foreign owned
companies like Wind Mobile to enter Canadian mobile phone market, bailing out
auto companies along with Ontario Liberal government during financial crisis was
sensible. blocking sale of Potash Corp to BHP Billiton, buying the military gear
appropriate to Afghanistan and sending the tanks and proper armour to them after
the Liberals had got them posted to Khandhar (where most of the casualties
occurred), C-36 prostitution bill (what one woman I know who was a prostitute
refers to as the best solution for Canada), mandatory sentences for criminals,
bombing ISIS...and I could go on.
Tax cuts since 2005 net Canadians $30B
http://globalnews.ca/news/1356467/ta...dians-30b-pbo/
C-24 changes to make citizenship worth something not a freebee thrown out to the
worthy and the criminal
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...ng-citizenship
/"The people who commit these crimes are not victims. They have spoken through
their actions about their level of commitment to the country. Removing their
Canadian citizenship makes sense. The punishment fits the crime."/
New added July 1st.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ot...aw-took-effect
Now a recent article reminded me of the differences, while Justin Trudeau is
known for taking speaking fees ($20,000 or to $30,000 or more) from charities
Harper actually helps...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle12573370/
/“He was getting paid $160,000 as an MP, but he went and took a 20,000 cheque
from a group of seniors trying to do a fundraiser to buy furniture,” Mr. Kenney
said, later adding: “He pretends to be a defender of the middle class.
Middle-class Canadians make charitable contributions. They do not take huge
payments from charities, especially when it is their job to help them.”/
PM participates in a fundraising dinner celebrating the 10th anniversary of
Humanity First Canada
Proceeds to support fight against Ebola in West Africa
http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2014/12...humanity-first
Prime Minister Stephen Harper, left, holds a clipboard while coaching with
hockey personality Don Cherry during Hockey Night in Barrie, a fundraiser to
raise money for the Royal Victoria Hospital's cancer care centre, in Barrie, Ont.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/pm-coaches-wit...-game-1.541821
and now that I have burned off some energy, there are more if I had the time to
argue with closed minds that don't like the facts, but to tick off the haters
there was even a bonus added for first time charity donations in the tax deductions.
The outright twisted distortions on the reduced health care and $36 billion in
cuts, the increase was reduced from 6% to 3.3% (still ahead of inflation by 1%)
and they don't tell you to get that much they had to stretch it out to 12
years. These distorted attack ads are the manufacture of a California group
that won't disclose who is funding them, it isn't even a Canadian organization.
http://healthydebate.ca/2014/11/topi...permanent-gain
Those ads are created by Unions and are intentionally hiding that fact.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...4913/comments/
NDP and Liberals will roll back community mailboxes for Canada post and waste
almost $500,000,000
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-...real-1.2061676
"Canada Post estimates that moving the five million addresses to community
mailboxes will eventually save between $400 million and $500 million annually."
NDP thinks families are better at raising children than families and children
should be in gov't run day cares to get gov't funds and mothers should be in the
workforce not caring for their kids even if they want to.
http://www.therebel.media/find_out_what_mulcair_said
Liberal/NDP support all abortions, no legislation so late term, gender based
abortions are OK
http://www.therebel.media/_what_s_the_real_reason_sk
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/resea...er-priorities/
i/n 2013/14 the federal government, which is $688 billion in debt, *spent $29.3
billion on interest payments *(or more than 11 cents of every dollar of
revenue). .../
/*In Ontario, the provincial government in 2013/14 spent $10.6 billion on
interest payments*, or 9.1 per cent of overall revenue, eclipsing the entire
budget for the Ministry of Community and Social Services ($10.1 billion), and
nearly topping the province’s total infrastructure spending ($10.8 billion)./
*Let`s look at the Federal Liberals*
http://www.therebel.media/trudeau_an...ion_corruption
Earlier this week Trudeau waded deep into NDP territory when *he promised not
only to repeal C-525 but also bill C-377*
<http://www.therebel.media/justin_trudeau_vows_to_scrap_laws_against_union_co rruption>if
he leads the government after the October election
NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair and Liberal Leader *Justin Trudeau have both promised
to repeal bill C-525 if elected.*
<http://www.therebel.media/justin_trudeau_vows_to_scrap_laws_against_union_co rruption>Passed
last December the bill gives workers in federal workplace jurisdiction the right
to a secret ballot to certify or decertify a union in their workplace.
Bill C-377 is the bill currently before the Senate that would require unions to
disclose how they spend the billions in dues money collected off workers
paycheques each year.
* it passed.
*Justin Trudeau's advisor (Butts) admits Ontario energy policies cost 300,000 jobs*
http://www.therebel.media/trudeau_ad...ral_think_tank
*Censorship law proposed by Liberal Cotler. (Secret complaints, censorship and
essential criminalization of emotions)**
***http://www.therebel.media/irwin_cotl...rlie_hebdo_act
*Legalizing Pot.... more minors getting access to it.**
*Cigarette smoking is trying to be stopped for health reasons...and people want
to legalize pot??? duh!!*
*http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...-pot-to-minors
*ISIS - Man, women and children being killed or sold and Justin won't support
fight against them.**
*http://www.macleans.ca/politics/for-...-against-isis/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-un-envoy-says
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/is...g-sold-for-172
Liberal Senate corruption
Yeah, disgusting, other than "TheRebel" the media has decided the left will win
the next election and want to help....they will rant on and on about Duffy while
they seem almost silence on the NDP and Liberal scandals. The scandals including
Marc Harb (over $200,000), NDP invalid mailings and satellite offices
($4,000,000) and apparently the Liberals never paid back the adscam
($10,000,000)...etc.
http://www.therebel.media/media_and_...d_ndp_scandals
*Justin Trudeau's lies about his "pledge for open nominations"*
This won't be talked about on CBC we know that.... I know in my riding the
Liberal "candidate" Ruby Dhalla had signs and a press meeting scheduled only to
change her mind at the last second and say the press meeting was to say she
wasn't running.... even though there were signs with her face on them behind her.
Here, I love the creative use of black tape....
http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/t...arge.promo.jpg
/"By my read, there have been at least 13 "open nomination" races with
preselected winners. "/
http://www.therebel.media/another_li...er_trudeau_lie
Blackballing, changing sign up dates, etc. ..... atleast 2 "candidates" are
currently suing... but nothing in the media.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...y-party-banner
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/thwa...tion-1.2610158
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle17998956/
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/02...n_6591726.html
Liberal candidates must also be pro-abortion (ANY type and reason) and not
question MANMADE global warming.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...tical-comeback
/Justin Trudeau’s pro-abortion edict dashes former veteran MPs’ hopes for
political comeback/
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/stephen...b_1179844.html
_*Partial birth abortions and gender based abortions* are allowed and Liberals
would not put any protections in place for unborn girls and the unborn even at 9
months of duration, there have been claims of "abortions" performed on girls
before they are all the way out. (_/"in Canada, where the medical journal said
hundreds of girls are aborted in favour of boys each year,"/NP article)
A 400 year old definition of when a baby is a baby.../"it denies the protection
of fundamental human rights to children before birth (since they are arbitrarily
defined as sub-human by our 400-year-old law)."/
Justin Trudeau doesn't want barbaric acts like honour killings and female
genital mutilation called barbaric.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad.../17610021.html
Justin Trudeau's attitude toward women.... I'll let you judge that.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/just...-ndp-1.2418703
/"Critics — and even some Liberals, call it patronizing."/
Justin Trudeau doing a strip tease in front of a bunch of women and a comment
about if Harper wins the next election from 2012.
http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/t....letterbox.jpg
A Trudeau is a Trudeau... a true dope. Divisive, arrogant, insulting,
dismissive.... etc.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/22...tans-in-charge
From another interview... *"Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada
because, you know, we're Quebecers or whatever." - Justin Trudeau*
Lies about unemployment rates, no understanding of what is middle class (his
example case won't receive any benefit from his bill).
http://www.therebel.media/justin_trudeau_s_natalie
/"In Justin's scenario, "Nathalie" makes about $40,000 a year, and worries about
her children's future and her personal debt. /
/In other words, she's his idea of a Canadian who desperately needs help from
the Liberals./
///Or at least, she was./
///Now Trudeau is talking about cutting taxes for Canadians, but only for those
whose earnings start at around $44,000./
/Why is he breaking his promise to poor "Nathalie"?/
/"/
The Liberals outright fear mongering and lying about bill C-42
https://www.liberal.ca/lpc-opposes-cpc-gun-bill/
Justin Trudeau said/
“First, it eliminates the need for owners of prohibited and restricted firearms
to have a transportation license to carry those guns in their vehicles. This
means they could freely transport handguns or automatic weapons anywhere within
their province, whether to a grocery store or a soccer field./
* ATT changed from paper form to electronic, all parts of law still in effect.
http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comme..._handguns_and/
Both Justin Trudeau and Pierre Trudeau have openly expressed their admiration
and wish to be in a dictatorship (respectively)
http://www.ndp.ca/news/reality-check...t-admire-china
The Liberals are the party that happily accepted Eve Adams after the was refused
the opportunity to run again as a Conservative.
So, Alberta is already seeing tax increases, increased spending etc but it has
just started so lets just look at Ontario and it's unemployment (we still have
hope Nationally but remember Greece, their unemployment is over 20%), utility
bills... and all the while...
Oil Sands looses $128M in 90 days, $120M is new taxes.
http://www.therebel.media/canadian_oil_sands_loses_128m
*Let`s look at Ontario with the Liberals*
Ontario downgrades in ratings (increases in debt spending)*, *3 active police
investigations etc....*
* But first how about a nice picture from the Pride parade last year (not the one of him with the topless teenage girl)https://lifesite-cache.s3.amazonaws....0.05.03_AM.png
Man in the White hat, on Wynne`s transition team, in ministry of Education -
Benjamin Levin - in prison for child pornography and counseling how to commit
sexual abuse of minors.
To his right, admitted pots smoker, pro abortion, dictatorship loving son of one
of Canada`s worst Prime Ministers - Justin Trudeau.
To his right - kicked her husband to the basement so her gay lover could move
in, leader of the party under 3 different OPP investigations (election fraud,
gas plants coverup...) Premier Wynne
To her right - former premier of Ontario while leader of Ontario NDP. Bob Rae
(in his 5 year term tripled Ontario`s debt.)
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...plants-scandal
*Compensation for Ontario public servants has skyrocketed over the last 10 years
of Liberal rule: Fraser Institute*
Overall program spending (the amount Ontario spends every year after paying
interest on debt and not including capital investments) rose 42% during that
same period, from about $80 billion to over $115 billion, while spending on
things other than compensation rose 39 per cent. And the number of government
jobs increased by about 11%.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03...ser-institute/
*BNN was talking and comparing the number of Public vs Private job creation
recently.*
http://www.bnn.ca/Video/player.aspx?vid=643593
*Windmillsplaced in location deemed dangerous by Ministry of Transportation yet
over rode and placed there anyway* (Chatham and Collingwood +)
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/10...tario-airports
/The chair of the Collingwood airport board says the plan to build turbines as
tall as the TD bank towers in downtown Toronto poses a safety hazard for planes
flying in and out of the airport.//
//“They’re too close to the airport and they’re potentially dangerous,” said
Charlie Tatham in a phone interview./
*New Ontario solar plants, bribes and blackmail.*
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/comme...medium=twitter
/To ensure municipal approval, if the council votes in favour of the energy
company, the municipality is promised millions of dollars to be voluntarily
“donated” by the company over the project’s lifetime. _On an individual basis
this would constitute criminal bribery_./
When even the Toronto Star can see it.... and to make it worse!
/The Liberal government hasn’t stopped there. Even if the municipality has the
backbone to refuse the bribe, it has set the rules so that without
explanation_the government can still award the energy company the contract._ If
that happens, the energy company gets to despoil the rural area without paying
the municipality a cent. _The bribe is now tinged with blackmail._/
Improvements to Niagara Falls generators too costly so they shut down a reliable
source of electricity and spend more than 10X more on wind and solar which are
not reliable. (Solar in Ontario in Winter - PERHAPS 25 to 30% with enough sun to
do even some producing, less with clouds. (Toronto shortest daylight 8:44 hours
long)
*Wants to Sell (not lease) Ontario Hydro and thinks keeping 40% will allow them
to remain in control.*
Ontario already has a surplus of electricity generation, sells electricity at a
loss, buys it at a premium and has the highest electricity rate in North America.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/06/20...ro-one-premier
*Ontario taking away the right to fight tickets. *(maybe)
http://globalnews.ca/news/2088992/ne...ts-in-ontario/
*Local company not even allowed to bid on Ferry and contract given to Chilean
company.*
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/sh...ew-pelee-ferry
Two weeks ago, the provincial government announced a $40-million contract to
build a new ferry had gone to ASENAV in Chile.
Hike Metal was knocked out of the process early when its submission for a
Request For Qualifications was declared unsatisfactory.
* After a meeting with Min of Transportation. with Hike Metal and MPP....
“They weren’t explicit with specific criteria,” Stanton said of the RFQ. *“Some
of the criteria wasn’t even requested. What am I supposed to be a mind reader?*
Because I didn’t cross that ‘T’ or dot that ‘I’ we’re disqualified?”
(Hike Metal -
http://hikemetalboatshipvesselbuilde...rent-projects/)
<http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/25/compensation-for-ontario-public-servants-has-skyrocketed-over-the-last-ten-years-of-liberal-rule-fraser-institute/>
*P.S.**
***Another Liberal Senators inappropriate expenses Rod Zimmer - $176,000
...
and the NDP
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...ces-tories-say
"New Democrat MPs who are on the hook for $2.7 million for allegedly using parliamentary resources for partisan purposes"
so the choices seem simple....
*Conservative*
- generally well thought out programs,
- less taxes
- responsibility and accountability (C-24, reserves and Union accountability,
mandatory sentences, C-36),
- likely hood of reducing the debt.
*Liberal or NDP (generally indistinguisable) -*
- billions of new programs (Universal daycare est at $5 to $10 Billion minimum
PER YEAR alone, money to Canada Post and CBC etc.),and billions more in National
debt!
- billions in taxes in the gov't pockets and higher unemployment as companies
leave Canada as fast as they have left Ontario
- firearm laws (using Liberal's own words).. using an Australian model or some
unclear but legal firearm owner punitive laws.
- carbon taxes
- a friend to criminals (C-24, roll back C-36 legalizing pimping, Jons and
prostitution ("a form of violence against women" - Justin Trudeau), rollback
mandatory sentences, roll back accountability on reserves allowing corruption to
continue, roll back Union disclosure bill (allowing hidden corruption to
continue) etc. )
- anti-family, roll back family income splitting, reduce/rollback cheques to
parents, candidates must be pro-abortion, only benefits if you use their daycare
program.
- hundreds of millions more spent on CBC (won't disclose spending even to gov't,
est $26 million in lawyers so far), CTV, Bell, Global don't get $90,000,000 per
month.
- essentially anti-family and extremely anti traditional family, fine with
gender based abortions, late term abortions etc. and to be a candidate you must
be pro-abortion.
- accountability by Chiefs and reserves (over $5B per year) and Unions will be
returned to hidden and undisclosed.
- clueless money management (Justin Trudeau - "budgets balance themselves"),
soaring debt (NDP in Ontario, 3X in 5 years, Pierre Trudeau (10X the debt)
P.S. - forgive formatting it messed up copying from the email and I'm not wasting all morning editing it.
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August 8th, 2015, 09:31 AM
#33
That's a great post mosquito. Should almost be stickied & locked on its own.
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August 8th, 2015, 09:39 AM
#34
Has too much time on their hands
Wow that was an awesome post mosquito ! I have to go back and read through again. Harper has my vote !
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August 8th, 2015, 10:51 AM
#35
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Oddmott
That's a great post mosquito. Should almost be stickied & locked on its own.
If others have ideas to add let me know or I have no issue if they want to use it

Originally Posted by
yellow dog
Wow that was an awesome post mosquito ! I have to go back and read through again. Harper has my vote !
I have too much to do and it is still raining...
Thanks but it is mostly going back through posts on here and another place, some I looked up, some I purgered links, putting them together in an email for someone else who didn't want to vote Conservative but couldn't give me a good reason. I started putting it into my Draft on the email as a copy I can add to, I was thinking I would bomb it here later but maybe some have some good items to add.
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August 8th, 2015, 12:30 PM
#36
Harper isn't perfect. I also scratch my head at some of his positions but then I step back and look at the alternatives. I find both hypocritical and laughable that the left criticize him for running deficits during global recessions. Every free country had to and in the fact the left tried to overthrow the government because he wasn't running big enough deficits. The coalition attempt wanted him to run double what he did. So, is it the fact that deficits in recessions are bad or only the fact that Harper was in office when the global economy tanked and ran deficits? So are deficits in recessions bad all the time or only if a Conservative is in office?
People rant and accuse him of catering to oil production. It's a natural resource we have an abundance of and is presently in demand. Should we leave it in the ground and forgo the revenue? What services are people prepared to eliminate if the oil revenue isn't around? 50 yrs from now there could be new technologies that render oils far less in demand, what use /value will it have then? Harper doesn't hurt other industries when he supports oil. He facilitates an industry that helps pay for the transfer payments every body else feel entitled to. Quebec insults the West but gladly take the transfer payments.
Trudough and Mulcair will increase the growth of debt, it's what they believe in. They will be soft on crime and National Security. It's what they believe in. Just today in the paper it was reported that the guy who committed the double murder in Vaughn last month in the coffee shop had 50 convictions, did 7 years for murder already and was let loose by our ridiculous legal hug a thug legal system. When Harper attempts to reform our laws to reverse this the activist social engineers in the Supreme Court block it. Maybe the SCC judges can chip in to pay for the funerals of those two killed in the coffee shop?
Putin is no fool. He sees that Harper won't be PM for long so he has pretty well told the world he claims most of the Arctic. He knows JT won't do squat to stop him nor will Obama. Within months Putin will be drilling up there. Read my post history and I predicted it months ago. Pulling out of the coalition war on ISIL won't make them change their ways. These people are savages. It will only allow them to expand their barbarism quicker. If we had let Hitler proceed without resistance the world would have been a scary place.
A PM isn't a popularity contest. It isn't class president where the best looking kid gets the job. Mulcair believes that the country could be broken up with a 50% + 1 vote in a referendum. That alone should completely remove him as a rational choice. JT thinks budgets balance themselves and that being PM is about taking "selfies" with horny young women. Can you imagine that imbecile at a G7 meeting? Be scared, be very scared.
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I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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August 8th, 2015, 01:36 PM
#37

Originally Posted by
mosquito
I'm bored reading your list, very selective and somewhat misleading on several, ah well I will pick on a few..
It's only misleading if you purposely misinterpret.
Truth & Reconciliation started off well but ended up being a half measure. It'll be essentially forgotten in a year, and it does nothing to fix the broken and ridiculous Indian Affairs Act.
Kelowna Accord, for its issues, was a step in the right direction for beginning to address the fact we need a new system that isn't archaic.
The Native issue isn't something that should be pegged down to just dollars and cents. There's a lot more to address than what point-billion it's costing the country.
Scientific Research - nobody has ever said that Harper's Govt shut down all research nationwide, that would be suicidal. Posting a few links to a few works they supported doesn't say anything.
Not sure how your medical isotope link helps your statement. Harper's insistence to get out of the industry - against ALL expert consultation - and shut down chalk river is the cause of the looming world medical isotope shortage. So... destroying the existing industry is somehow investing in it, in your eyes? Shutting down the nuclear industry faster than advised is going to cost Canada $23-$28 billion... but his shuffling a pittance of $25M to other research is somehow commendable?
You've also decided to mix in private industry research with Public Sector, not the same. Nothing you posted debunk the established fact of Harpers muzzling Canadian scientists.
Election spending - You do realize Trudeau is FEDERAL and the robocalls were PROVINCIAL Cons & Libs, right?
Linda Keen - Do you even read the stuff you're linking too? Read your own link and tell me anything Keen did was "wrong"? She was caught between two power-tripping organizations, while also fighting a meddling gov't that was threatening to fire her because she didn't want to push a facility into unsafe working scenarios. lol
Funding fiascoes - The point was not the X $ spent on child care over other things. The point is that several times in his initial election campaign and for the first year he was in office, Harper voluntarily espoused that he would cut the subsidies to big oil. Not tax them more, not overtly harm the industry... simply cut subsidies and allow them to operate on their own feet, in a freer market. He also said that his gov't was dedicated to helping women and kids in need. Then he cuts the funding for those he swore to continue protecting... and continued to pay private corp to operate business.
It's a moral issue and this one is pretty black & white.
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August 8th, 2015, 03:21 PM
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Has too much time on their hands
Yes it is a moral issue unfortunately all parties get an F-.
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August 8th, 2015, 03:53 PM
#39

Originally Posted by
yellow dog
Yes it is a moral issue unfortunately all parties get an F-.
This is true. I was just really hoping Harper would be the one to really turn this particular ship around with a groundbreaking initiative that truly empowered natives and benefited Canada socially and fiscally. It woulda been one helluva feather in his cap and a real boot to all the haters who view him as Hitler.
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August 8th, 2015, 06:17 PM
#40
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Oddmott
It's only misleading if you purposely misinterpret.
Truth & Reconciliation started off well but ended up being a half measure. It'll be essentially forgotten in a year, and it does nothing to fix the broken and ridiculous Indian Affairs Act.
Kelowna Accord, for its issues, was a step in the right direction for beginning to address the fact we need a new system that isn't archaic.
The Native issue isn't something that should be pegged down to just dollars and cents. There's a lot more to address than what point-billion it's costing the country.
True, the race based B.S. is just that B.S. and it needs to be done away with fairly. It is just ghettoizing many, there are many exploited by their chiefs (much worse than I thought after some recent conversations up north.) and little hope.
Scientific Research - nobody has ever said that Harper's Govt shut down all research nationwide, that would be suicidal. Posting a few links to a few works they supported doesn't say anything.
Not sure how your medical isotope link helps your statement. Harper's insistence to get out of the industry - against ALL expert consultation - and shut down chalk river is the cause of the looming world medical isotope shortage. So... destroying the existing industry is somehow investing in it, in your eyes? Shutting down the nuclear industry faster than advised is going to cost Canada $23-$28 billion... but his shuffling a pittance of $25M to other research is somehow commendable?
4 out of 5 of the worlds providers were out of service a few years ago I know for sure and there were leaks that shut down Chalk River and that is why millions were put into the company that produces them (one of the links.) Please provide source for your amount.
You've also decided to mix in private industry research with Public Sector, not the same. Nothing you posted debunk the established fact of Harpers muzzling Canadian scientists.
Election spending - You do realize Trudeau is FEDERAL and the robocalls were PROVINCIAL Cons & Libs, right?
Yes and so were the Robocalls... and it was LIBERALS that violated it first
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-campaign-in-guelph-fined-for-robocalls-violation-1.1177594
Linda Keen - Do you even read the stuff you're linking too? Read your own link and tell me anything Keen did was "wrong"? She was caught between two power-tripping organizations, while also fighting a meddling gov't that was threatening to fire her because she didn't want to push a facility into unsafe working scenarios. lol
Did you read it, I did, here let's simplify it, she was making little effort to resolve the issues and.
""It became very clear very quickly [to] even her own officials and AECL and independent experts that, in fact, this was not about safety. This was a potential difference in opinion between the two agencies with respect to licensing," Lunn said.
Funding fiascoes - The point was not the X $ spent on child care over other things. The point is that several times in his initial election campaign and for the first year he was in office, Harper voluntarily espoused that he would cut the subsidies to big oil. Not tax them more, not overtly harm the industry... simply cut subsidies and allow them to operate on their own feet, in a freer market. He also said that his gov't was dedicated to helping women and kids in need. Then he cuts the funding for those he swore to continue protecting... and continued to pay private corp to operate business.
It's a moral issue and this one is pretty black & white.
Yes, he could have cut the subsidies to oil companies, with the NDP in power now it was a waste not to gouge them earlier, now the NDP is tacking on billions of dollars in taxes and will really screw the industry and their workers.
I guess you don't like the child care allowance because it isn't a Liberal idea?, a much fairer idea that is "not tied to actual child care expenses, and is available to all parents, regardless of whether or not they use childcare services. The measures have cost the government about $3.7 billion per year."
That much money to help all families is much better spent than some wasteful day care program that excludes so many.
As for women's shelter cuts that is one of the areas I agree shouldn't have been cut, $500M from CBC great I would cheer but I don't agree with this one. There are many women with children that are benefiting from the federal money but there needs to be some examination of spending.
I don't see either of the other two parties doing better, maybe if the shelters were unionized Mulcair might care and with Justin being paid as a full time MP and taking $30,000 fees from charities I see no consideration there.
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