Non-Resident Bear Hunting Facts

[MikePal]

Found this report while looking for some information on non-resident hunters, I found some the the factoids rather interesting, so I thought I'd post them.

One that raised my eyebrow was that a 1/3 of the tags sold in Ontario for Bear hunting are sold to non-residents.

An estimated average of 6,783 bears was harvested annually between 1990 and

1998. On average 60% or 4005 bears were taken in the spring and 40% or 2,688
were taken in the fall. Approximately 76% of the hunt was by non-resident hunters.

Since 1999, the annual average number of bears killed was 5,253 with 66% taken by
non-resident hunters. It should be noted that in 2007 the number of bears killed
jumped to 6204

A total of 23, 321 licenses were sold in 2007 (the last available data year for this
report), 15,000 were to resident hunters and 7,500 to non-resident hunters.

Non-resident hunters generally had higher success rates than resident hunters, with
a 17% success rate for residents and a 57% success rate for non-residents.

Resident Hunters:
66% still hunting
32.8% baiting
27% stalking
21% road driving
9% dogs

Non-resident hunter:
93% baiting
9% still hunting
5% stalking
3% dog

http://www.animalalliance.ca/wp-cont...ment_Facts.pdf

[Fox]

Bears are smelly, greasy and not worth hunting, isnt that a fact? The meat is no good for human consumption, just dog food.

This is not surprising, there can be a lot of money made off of non-resident hunters.

By the way, I was joking, bear meat is delicious.

[Greenhorn]

I believe a lot of hunters have the same impression of bear,stinky and meat not fit to eat. Boy are they wrong,bear meat is the first to go at wild game dinners.
The village I live in, their might be 5 bear hunters at most and 1,000's and 1000's of acres of crown land. People are asking me all the time to come and kill a bear around their house. They don't like it when I explain the hunting laws.
85% of the 5,000 Bears / year are killed by NR.

[smitty55]

Tks for sharing Mike.
Unless things have changed, non residents need to hunt with an outfitter, which explains the much higher success rates. I'm sure some deer or moose hunters still buy a tag just in case too, and may not specifically target bears. If they really wanted to affect the abundance of bears, they should include bear in our deer or moose tags like it was for the longest time. But of course they could never lose that revenue so that won't happen.

Cheers

[SK33T3R]

Resident Hunters:
66% still hunting
32.8% baiting
27% stalking
21% road driving
9% dogs

WHY IS IT WHEN I ADD UP THE NUMBERS I DON'T GET 100%.

WTF?

155.8%

Is this what we get for our MANDATORY Bear reporting?

[Kilo Charlie]

Resident Hunters:
66% still hunting
32.8% baiting
27% stalking
21% road driving
9% dogs

WHY IS IT WHEN I ADD UP THE NUMBERS I DON'T GET 100%.

WTF?

155.8%

Is this what we get for our MANDATORY Bear reporting?

It doesn't say anywhere that that's how they killed the bears, just that the hunters used those techniques. So the fact it doesn't add up to 100 per cent is completely meaningless. No reason to get excited.

[x_xeon_x]

Resident Hunters:
66% still hunting
32.8% baiting
27% stalking
21% road driving
9% dogs

WHY IS IT WHEN I ADD UP THE NUMBERS I DON'T GET 100%.

WTF?

155.8%

Is this what we get for our MANDATORY Bear reporting?

This is actually what you get when you get info from the "animal alliance of Canada", a non-profit group claiming responsibility for the cancellation of the spring bear hunt. Because uh, who the hell puts "road driving" on a mandatory questionnaire?

Here's the link to the actual results from the OMNR https://dr6j45jk9xcmk.cloudfront.net...ty-harvest.pdf

And they harvested 6227 not 6204 bears in 2007. But I guess the facts don't matter to these kinds of people.


Also, I'd imagine a lot of residents buy a bear tag before heading up to moose or deer camp for the odd chance of coming across one while hunting something else. You really don't hear about a lot of people spending the time and money to hunt them.

[MikePal]

If I remember, the outcry about the loss of the spring bear hunt was mostly complaints about the economic impact. With it affecting so many non-resident hunters, the outfitters were taking the biggest hit.

Hope there is a turn around once the spring bear hunt is restored and more local guys take up bear hunting with the loss of so many moose tags.

[SK33T3R]

It doesn't say anywhere that that's how they killed the bears, just that the hunters used those techniques. So the fact it doesn't add up to 100 per cent is completely meaningless. No reason to get excited.

I'm not excited - NOT ANYMORE! and I know this is only a breakdown of methods

BUT if they can't even get this right then how do they get anything right!

oops! I think I just answered the obvious!

If I ever went to an engineering meeting and presented something like that ..

Maybe there's a few Senators on the MNR board!



Mike why did you post this from the animal alliance? I thought it was good solid info.

Shame on you .. and it's not even April 1st! :-)

[MikePal]

Mike why did you post this from the animal alliance? I thought it was good solid info.
:-)

Most of the info cross checked, one number was off by 13 not worth mentioning

There is little done by the MNR, OFAH or any other agency on a regular basis to provide these kind of details. Sure I'd take it with a grain of powder, but I wouldn't discredit it unless someone can prove them wrong.

Find anther source and we can compare...

edit add: come to think of it, the only way for them to get answers to those survey questions was to ask hunters...if the numbers don't make sense do you think maybe hunters embellished the truth..LOL..