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August 26th, 2015, 09:30 AM
#91

Originally Posted by
bushman
I don't know about the rest of you but, if I had a bear charging me for real, I'm not going to wait until he is 5 feet from me!!!
I personally would go with the slugs over birdshot
... and spend how much time unloading your bird shot and searching for the slugs in your pocket?
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August 26th, 2015 09:30 AM
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August 26th, 2015, 09:39 AM
#92

Originally Posted by
Waftrudnir
... and spend how much time unloading your bird shot and searching for the slugs in your pocket?
Better be loaded for bear then switch out for birdshot once the grouse busts.
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August 26th, 2015, 09:41 AM
#93

Originally Posted by
Waftrudnir
... and spend how much time unloading your bird shot and searching for the slugs in your pocket?
Splitting hairs again!!
Going to put more bait out at an active sight,I believe was the initial thought train of this thread? That's why I said slugs!!
However if I had birdshot in, and a bear charged me I "might " use the bs, rather than reload with slugs!!! Duh, let me think about that!
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August 26th, 2015, 10:22 AM
#94

Originally Posted by
bushman
Splitting hairs again!!
Going to put more bait out at an active sight,I believe was the initial thought train of this thread? That's why I said slugs!!
However if I had birdshot in, and a bear charged me I "might " use the bs, rather than reload with slugs!!! Duh, let me think about that!
Walking in to a bait or a feeder where you have knowledge of bears coming around I would be walking in with the 12ga loaded with slugs and not care what any CO or person on this board says.
If I were hunting grouse and worried about a bear I would stop worrying and shoot it at close range with birdshot if that is all that I had.
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August 26th, 2015, 10:52 AM
#95

Originally Posted by
Fox
Walking in to a bait or a feeder where you have knowledge of bears coming around I would be walking in with the 12ga loaded with slugs and not care what any CO or person on this board says.
If I were hunting grouse and worried about a bear I would stop worrying and shoot it at close range with birdshot if that is all that I had.
Exactly Fox!! Common sense is a wonderful thing!!
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August 26th, 2015, 10:53 AM
#96

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Well I'll have to disagree....my experience, witness and pics prove out that bird shot, at close range, is compatible to the stopping power of a slug.

Originally Posted by
JeffBondar
Did you watch the video I posted where the birdshot did not penetrate the 4" of meat while the slug devastated it?

Originally Posted by
Fox
If I were hunting grouse and worried about a bear I would stop worrying and shoot it at close range with birdshot if that is all that I had.
I think that is the point guys are missing...were discussing a self defense situation and having to shot a charging bear with a shotgun loaded with birdshot.
and the answer is yes...It will STOP the bear...it won't 'devastate' it like a slug will...but it will STOP the bear.
Especially if you shot it in the face and blind it or better yet shot it in mouth and sever the spine at the back of the throat.
It's about breaking off the attack...not necessarily about killing the bear with a well placed shot to the vitals.
Last edited by MikePal; August 26th, 2015 at 10:58 AM.
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August 26th, 2015, 10:56 AM
#97

Originally Posted by
JeffBondar
Werner, MikePal did some real world research on some rotted plywood :-)
So how much are you going to wager that I can't replicate those results with a new piece of 3/4 plywood
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August 26th, 2015, 11:04 AM
#98

Originally Posted by
MikePal
So how much are you going to wager that I can't replicate those results with a new piece of 3/4 plywood

LOL, I know you will get the exact same results :-)
My pellet gun also punches holes through plywood weather or not it's rotted or not
It's all good
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August 26th, 2015, 01:25 PM
#99

Originally Posted by
bushman
I don't know about the rest of you but, if I had a bear charging me for real, I'm not going to wait until he is 5 feet from me!!!
I personally would go with the slugs over birdshot
Bushman. You had better wait till the bear is 5 feet away. If I remember correctly the definition of a charging bear that can be dispatched according to the MNR and CFO is approximately 7 feet. Anything further and it is deemed not a threat and cannot be fired directly on.
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August 26th, 2015, 02:07 PM
#100

Originally Posted by
Bearhunter
Bushman. You had better wait till the bear is 5 feet away. If I remember correctly the definition of a charging bear that can be dispatched according to the MNR and CFO is approximately 7 feet. Anything further and it is deemed not a threat and cannot be fired directly on.
Didn't know they had quantified it that precisely and I sure wouldn't wait until he go that close. If he knows I am there and starts to approach me, that's all I'd need.
When I see the videos of guys in tree stands that the bear climbs up to...that's just nuts.