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August 30th, 2015, 08:41 PM
#131
Not every place do you need a big game license to carry slugs, buckshot or even a 270 winchester.. My area Yotes are in season year around and only require a small game license.

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
Unfortunately us honest hunters pay the price of dishonest poachers. Those who try to circumvent the law buy carrying slugs without the proper big game licences when required have screwed it up for us honest guys who would like to carry a slug or 2 for protection. If we turned in and got rid of more poachers, the c.o.'s might let up a little where common sense could prevail.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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August 30th, 2015 08:41 PM
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August 31st, 2015, 06:17 AM
#132

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Not every place do you need a big game license to carry slugs, buckshot or even a 270 winchester.. My area Yotes are in season year around and only require a small game license.
Once bear season opens, you need a bear license for buckshot/slugs/cf rifle.
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August 31st, 2015, 06:21 AM
#133

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Again..your thinking like a 'hunter' not a man trying to save his life...two different scenarios.
It's a point and shoot situation...with whatever you holding..consequences (to the bear) be darned.
Keep the ethics lecture for when there is a choice..
Agree - we're not talking about 'hunting' here, we're talking about survival.
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August 31st, 2015, 07:05 AM
#134
Yeah I guess I should have added that. But I took his thread to mean you could never carry slugs any time of the year except Big game season.

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Once bear season opens, you need a bear license for buckshot/slugs/cf rifle.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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August 31st, 2015, 10:19 AM
#135
you can carry any non restricted firearm anytime of the year if you have a firearms license as long as it is for wildlife protection.
calibre etc doesn't matter.
the only time it becomes an issue is if you are small game hunting. if you are not hunting and you are just walking in the bush you can carry your 300wsm or whatever you want under the rights of your firearms license.
as stated in the hunting regs (if you are small game hunting in an area where there is a open season ................)
this statement starts as if you are small game hunting, that's the key, if you are not hunting you can carry whatever you want as long as its a non-restricted firearm, unless there is a municipal bylaw against it.
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August 31st, 2015, 11:14 AM
#136

Originally Posted by
revr
you can carry any non restricted firearm anytime of the year if you have a firearms license as long as it is for wildlife protection.
calibre etc doesn't matter.
the only time it becomes an issue is if you are small game hunting. if you are not hunting and you are just walking in the bush you can carry your 300wsm or whatever you want under the rights of your firearms license.
as stated in the hunting regs (if you are small game hunting in an area where there is a open season ................)
this statement starts as if you are small game hunting, that's the key, if you are not hunting you can carry whatever you want as long as its a non-restricted firearm, unless there is a municipal bylaw against it.
Not sure where you got this, but it is not correct. What a firearms license permits (carrying an unrestricted firearm in the bush) and what the fwca permit (with respect to hunting seasons, etc) are completely separate.
Take a minute to look through the hunting regulations.
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August 31st, 2015, 11:25 AM
#137

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Not sure where you got this, but it is not correct. What a firearms license permits (carrying an unrestricted firearm in the bush) and what the fwca permit (with respect to hunting seasons, etc) are completely separate.
Take a minute to look through the hunting regulations.
go on the RCMP website and look up carry of firearm for wildlife protection, that's allows you to carry the firearm in the bush,
then go in the small games section of the hunting regs, that is where you will find the firearm restrictions,
BUT remember, this guy is wondering about carrying a firearm for wildlife protection, he is not hunting at the same time! if he was hunting then the hunting rules would come into effect, that's the key, he is not hunting!
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August 31st, 2015, 11:34 AM
#138

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Not sure where you got this, but it is not correct. What a firearms license permits (carrying an unrestricted firearm in the bush) and what the fwca permit (with respect to hunting seasons, etc) are completely separate.
Take a minute to look through the hunting regulations.
to make it easier, can you please note the page number of the hunting regs that states its illegal to carry a firearm?
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August 31st, 2015, 11:36 AM
#139

Originally Posted by
revr
go on the RCMP website and look up carry of firearm for wildlife protection, that's allows you to carry the firearm in the bush,
then go in the small games section of the hunting regs, that is where you will find the firearm restrictions,
BUT remember, this guy is wondering about carrying a firearm for wildlife protection, he is not hunting at the same time! if he was hunting then the hunting rules would come into effect, that's the key, he is not hunting!
Again, what the firearms act allows does not override provincial game laws.
You need to follow both, and the hunting laws do not allow "carrying for wildlife protection", unless you have a valid hunting license for that wildlife. If you try that explanation with a CO during bear season, you may be charged with hunting without a license. If bear season is not open, you may be charged with hunting bears out of season.
This is not an RCMP (federal gun law) issue. It is an Ontario hunting law issue. Have a look at the hunting summary to see what you are and are not permitted.
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August 31st, 2015, 11:42 AM
#140

Originally Posted by
revr
to make it easier, can you please note the page number of the hunting regs that states its illegal to carry a firearm?
What you don't seem to realize is that if you are walking in an area where game may be expected to be found (based on CO's opinion), with a firearm you are considered to be hunting. If you want to explain to the CO that you are target shooting, you had better be prepared to show him where you were shooting targets.
If you are even driving bush roads with an uncased rifle, you are considered to be hunting.
A small game licence is not valid in some parts of northern and central Ontario from June 16 to August 31. For more information see page 15 and the map on pages 10-11. Additional licence information and fees can be found on page 15.
Firearms
If you are hunting small game in an area where there is an open season for deer, moose, elk, or black bear, you may not possess or use a rifle of greater muzzle energy than 400 foot-pounds or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot (non-toxic equivalents include steel shot larger than triple BBB, or bismuth larger than double BB), unless you possess a valid licence to hunt deer, moose, elk or black bear as the case may be. This restriction does not apply south of the French and Mattawa Rivers during an open season for deer that is restricted to the use of bows.
Last edited by werner.reiche; August 31st, 2015 at 11:46 AM.