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September 3rd, 2015, 05:27 AM
#171

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
Revr called and got an answer. If someone doesn't like it that's up to them. Call and get your own interpretation then. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if one c.o. says one thing and another says something different in interpreting the law. The court will make the final decision should it get to that.
Thanks for posting what you found out revr!!
thanks Redd Foxx,
no problem, I am not here to argue, I will do what it takes to find out what a local CO thinks about questions I have, where I live there are all kinds of rules, road restrictions, lake access restrictions, etc, and I like to know before it becomes a issue!
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September 3rd, 2015 05:27 AM
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September 3rd, 2015, 07:36 AM
#172
Another thing to consider is if you plan on practicing on Sundays. If the town or municipality does not allow Sunday gun hunting, then you could not practice on Sundays. Even though you are not "hunting", the by-law prohibiting Sunday gun hunting may be for any discharge of firearms. A list and map of municipalities allowing Sunday gun hunting is available online at
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business...02_173985.html
This part here seems a little strange to me. In most of southern Ontario it was illegal to possess a firearm other than bow for the "purpose of hunting" on Sunday. That would mean that you could possess a firearm for another purpose on Sunday such as target shooting. The MNRF allowed Sunday hunting in areas where municipalities agreed to that, hence some areas you can and some you can't. Unless there is a municipal by-law that specifically outlaws "Sunday shooting" I think you can still target shoot on Sunday.
I would recommend when getting info from MNRF to ask for the name of the person who gave it to you and their contact info, position, etc and get it in writing if possible. Sometimes info is given by clerks, techs, etc that may not be as familiar with the laws as they think. The NRIC is the Natural Resource Information Centre that handle general enquiries. Depending on where they got their info, it may or may not be accurate so it is important to get that contact information or keep a copy of what you got from them to back you up should something negative arise.
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September 3rd, 2015, 07:41 AM
#173
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ut if theCO is in a bad mood you might get a fine.
If you feel you've been hard done by and didn't commit an offence, plead not guilty and ask for a trial.
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September 3rd, 2015, 07:55 AM
#174
What I do:
- Always have a current small game license. Not a big deal because I am a hunter.
- Also always buy a bear license every fall. That lets you carry slugs or CF rifle. It also lets you shoot a bear (legally) if you see one.
In practical terms, when are you ever going to run into a CO nowdays, right? Not very often, but the bear license saved me one year - the day before deer rifle season, I went for a drive on some logging roads with my deer rifle (and shot shells for it) looking for grouse. Got stopped at an MNR roadblock on the way out. Even though I showed him the shot shells and gave him my "hunting for grouse excuse", that was not good enough. The bear license got me off the hook.
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September 3rd, 2015, 11:25 AM
#175

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
What I do:
- Always have a current small game license. Not a big deal because I am a hunter.
- Also always buy a bear license every fall. That lets you carry slugs or CF rifle. It also lets you shoot a bear (legally) if you see one.
In practical terms, when are you ever going to run into a CO nowdays, right? Not very often, but the bear license saved me one year - the day before deer rifle season, I went for a drive on some logging roads with my deer rifle (and shot shells for it) looking for grouse. Got stopped at an MNR roadblock on the way out. Even though I showed him the shot shells and gave him my "hunting for grouse excuse", that was not good enough. The bear license got me off the hook.
You were just driving, how can you legally hunt while you are driving. You were transporting your rifle and 410 shotgun shells to your camp to get ready for the up coming hunt. I think this guy was trying to get he pen ready for the season.
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September 3rd, 2015, 12:49 PM
#176

Originally Posted by
Fox
You were just driving, how can you legally hunt while you are driving. You were transporting your rifle and 410 shotgun shells to your camp to get ready for the up coming hunt. I think this guy was trying to get he pen ready for the season.
If all you had is a rifle with shot cartridges, it would have been entertaining to see a judge's call on it.
The rifle may have been capable of a muzzle energy of more than 400 ft-lbs, when loaded with the appropriate manufactured ammunition for deer hunting, but the muzzle energy of the shot cartridge I would expect falls way below 400 ft-lbs. Since the way the regulation is currently worded with no mention of the rifles capability. It is the muzzle energy of the ammunition being used in the firearm that defines the use of the firearms, not the caliber of the firearm or its potential muzzle energy. I have advised those in charge of enforcement at the MNRF that the regulation is, flawed for this very reason, and needs to be amended. But they still take the view that the industrial standard is what defines the use of a firearm, and so far have chosen not to add the word 'capable' to the phrase concerning muzzle energy in order to make their understanding of the regulation perfectly clear. Apparently preferring instead, to mentally insert it into the regulation, when they apply it.
You do not stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you so hunting.
- Gun Nut
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September 3rd, 2015, 01:19 PM
#177
Sometimes to challenge an offense will cost more then the fine itself.

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
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If you feel you've been hard done by and didn't commit an offence, plead not guilty and ask for a trial.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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September 3rd, 2015, 01:24 PM
#178
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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September 3rd, 2015, 01:38 PM
#179
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September 3rd, 2015, 01:52 PM
#180
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member