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September 28th, 2015, 06:56 AM
#21

Originally Posted by
bcxextreme
Yes they are a big nuisance to farmers especially. The farm I hunt HATES them. They decimate his crops. His farm and the one adjacent to it have well over 100 birds that live there year round. He has given me written permission to cull them because of the damage they do. The mnr says im allowed to take as many as needed to get them under control. Problem is the buggars disappear to the back side of a swamp where you cant get to them.However when they do show up its like a huge black blanket moving across the field.
Look into the permit, if you are right and the farmer has an actual permit for this at any time and has you listed as an agent then why try to hunt them? You can use any means allowed on the permit, some places they do not restrict you, some state just the farmers field, not his bush and one permit I know of specifically says shotgun only. If there is no restriction on firearm and they are that bad a 22 centerfire should do quite well. Look at what the rules are on the permit too for keeping them, some let you, some don't.
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September 28th, 2015 06:56 AM
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September 29th, 2015, 09:42 AM
#22
I'm going to give it a shot this year. Atleast for a couple of days.
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September 29th, 2015, 02:14 PM
#23

Originally Posted by
Fox
Look into the permit, if you are right and the farmer has an actual permit for this at any time and has you listed as an agent then why try to hunt them? You can use any means allowed on the permit, some places they do not restrict you, some state just the farmers field, not his bush and one permit I know of specifically says shotgun only. If there is no restriction on firearm and they are that bad a 22 centerfire should do quite well. Look at what the rules are on the permit too for keeping them, some let you, some don't.
There is no permit required for turkeys.They said just to get something from the farmer in writing in case I,m stopped with turkeys OOS.
As I understand it the actual law it says they either have to be or the farmer feels they are about to do damage.I also inquired about the firearm restrictions and they told me I can use whatever will get the job done. I was surprised when the farmer told me about the amount of damage they do. They get into the cornfield and fly up to the top of the stock and use their weight to knock it down.Then they strip the cob and repeat until they have had enough. By that time it looks like someone drove their car into the corn. In the winter they come up next to his barn where he keeps his feed pile for cattle. They stay at it most of the day eating.If he chases them off they are back a half hr later.When there is that many adult birds they can eat a ton of food.
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September 29th, 2015, 02:17 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
Fox
Look into the permit, if you are right and the farmer has an actual permit for this at any time and has you listed as an agent then why try to hunt them? You can use any means allowed on the permit, some places they do not restrict you, some state just the farmers field, not his bush and one permit I know of specifically says shotgun only. If there is no restriction on firearm and they are that bad a 22 centerfire should do quite well. Look at what the rules are on the permit too for keeping them, some let you, some don't.
I can read the headline now, innocent hunter shot by other hunter using a centre fire rifle while hunting turkeys on the edge of field he had permission to be on, stick to shotguns and bows guys, I'm pretty sure regardless of the situation you can't go Rambo on turkeys with rifles.
Last edited by Huntnfish; September 29th, 2015 at 02:26 PM.
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September 30th, 2015, 08:48 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
Huntnfish
I can read the headline now, innocent hunter shot by other hunter using a centre fire rifle while hunting turkeys on the edge of field he had permission to be on, stick to shotguns and bows guys, I'm pretty sure regardless of the situation you can't go Rambo on turkeys with rifles.
Your comment makes absolutely no sense.
You can hunt coyotes with a centerfire, you can also hunt them all year long. If a fall turkey hunters or an archery hunter is going out there you can still use a centerfire rifle for hunting coyotes, target shooting, hunting groundhogs.
You have to know the target and what is beyond it whenever you shoot, you have to take responsibility for your bullet after it has left your barrel.
If it is destruction of property you can use whatever you want.
bcx - I know of a guy up this way that was given specific instructions and paperwork on how they could be shot, this could be something that is different from zone to zone though too
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September 30th, 2015, 09:31 AM
#26
Yes I understand what your saying but let's be honest most guys hunt coyotes in the winter while guys are most likely not sitting in field edges hunting turkeys, you fire a centre fire bullet hunting turkeys and who says a guy is not behind the bird in a bush he has permission to be and catches it in the head, you go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to protect a farmers corn crop from the nasty birds. It's make perfect sense that there are more hunters out at certain times of the year therefore caliber restrictions are placed in these areas.
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September 30th, 2015, 10:08 AM
#27

Originally Posted by
Huntnfish
Yes I understand what your saying but let's be honest most guys hunt coyotes in the winter while guys are most likely not sitting in field edges hunting turkeys, you fire a centre fire bullet hunting turkeys and who says a guy is not behind the bird in a bush he has permission to be and catches it in the head, you go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to protect a farmers corn crop from the nasty birds. It's make perfect sense that there are more hunters out at certain times of the year therefore caliber restrictions are placed in these areas.
Again, you have got to be kidding me.
You go out deer hunting, you are the only one with permission, some hiker comes through the bush and you shoot and kill them, is it their fault for being in the bush?
Honestly, safe use of a firearm.
If you are hunting coyotes in the winter and you shoot at one along a field edge, there is someone sitting in the bush after putting in their maple syrup line, you shoot them in the head, you go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to protect a farmers cattle from the nasty animals.
What you are saying is that there should not be any use of a non-restricted firearm outside of the seasons at which you choose to hunt.
Here is another one, you are hunting for bears, you have a 7mm Rem Mag. You spot a bear along a field edge, take careful aim and take a shot. Another hunter is hunting turkeys in the fall and since you did not know if the backstop was safe the guy takes it in the head. You go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to hunt a legal species at a legal time with a legal firearm.
Yes, we have a bear hunt and a fall turkey hunt up here.
Sorry, but safe firearms shooting and handling is key here.
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September 30th, 2015, 11:52 AM
#28
I am unsure if I am going to fall turkey hunt this year. I've only been out fall turkey hunting twice (both times were last year) and did not see any birds where I was unfortunately. I have recently moved to the Peterborough area and may not have time to find a spot in time for the season.
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September 30th, 2015, 12:45 PM
#29
Fall 2015 Hunt
I'm with fox here. I don't know what others practice but bush or tree line is not a backstop. In most cases into the dirt.
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October 1st, 2015, 04:26 AM
#30

Originally Posted by
Fox
Again, you have got to be kidding me.
You go out deer hunting, you are the only one with permission, some hiker comes through the bush and you shoot and kill them, is it their fault for being in the bush?
Honestly, safe use of a firearm.
If you are hunting coyotes in the winter and you shoot at one along a field edge, there is someone sitting in the bush after putting in their maple syrup line, you shoot them in the head, you go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to protect a farmers cattle from the nasty animals.
What you are saying is that there should not be any use of a non-restricted firearm outside of the seasons at which you choose to hunt.
Here is another one, you are hunting for bears, you have a 7mm Rem Mag. You spot a bear along a field edge, take careful aim and take a shot. Another hunter is hunting turkeys in the fall and since you did not know if the backstop was safe the guy takes it in the head. You go tell his wife and kids that you were trying to hunt a legal species at a legal time with a legal firearm.
Yes, we have a bear hunt and a fall turkey hunt up here.
Sorry, but safe firearms shooting and handling is key here.
Ok you got me shoot away guys, I'll look forward to the story about the stupid hunter who thought that farm animals and crops are above human life, I will be logging off this site now as I would never want to be associated with people who think like you "hunters?
Last edited by Huntnfish; October 1st, 2015 at 04:38 AM.