Return of Long Gun Registry

[Bushmoose]

Gun Nut, without copying n pasting all your posts, it appears you are in favour of no licensing of firearm owners? Your answer is a free for all of anyone who wishes to own a firearm? No background checks? No proven competency in firearm handling? Is this what you are advocating when you argue the licensing aspect of firearm ownership? Just curious......

[Gun Nut]

Gun Nut, without copying n pasting all your posts, it appears you are in favour of no licensing of firearm owners? Your answer is a free for all of anyone who wishes to own a firearm? No background checks? No proven competency in firearm handling? Is this what you are advocating when you argue the licensing aspect of firearm ownership? Just curious......

I'm only asking that things be return to what they were before Bill C-68. Restoring our private property rights, and the right, of all Canadians to own firearms if they so choose to do so. I advocate if they choose to use those firearms, that they receive the proper training to do so safety, which would include safe storage. If they choose to acquire firearms for use they should be license to do so, and that licencing should be subject to background checks. Bill C-68 went beyond the pail, when it licensed firearm ownership and criminalized it, in the absence of licensing. Just my opinion, thanks for asking.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut

[welsh]

Actual Liberal platform on guns, as announced today:

• repeal changes made by Bill C-42 that allow restricted and prohibited weapons to be freely transported without a permit, and we will put decision-making about weapons restrictions back in the hands of police, not politicians;
• provide $100 million each year to the provinces and territories to support guns and gangs police task forces to take illegal guns off our streets and reduce gang violence;
• modify the membership of the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee to include knowledgeable law enforcement officers, public health advocates, representatives from women’s groups, and members of the legal community;
• require enhanced background checks for anyone seeking to purchase a handgun or other restricted firearm;
• require purchasers of firearms to show a license when they buy a gun, and require all sellers of firearms to confirm that the license is valid before completing the sale;
• require firearms vendors to keep records of all firearms inventory and sales to assist police in investigating firearms trafficking and other gun crimes;
• immediately implement the imported gun marking regulations that have been repeatedly delayed by Stephen Harper; and
• as part of our investment in border infrastructure, invest in technologies to enhance our border guards’ ability to detect and halt illegal guns from the United States entering into Canada.

https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/guns/?shownew=1

None of this seems radical, really, although some of it is irksome. Just how they plan to expand background checks, and why they feel this is necessary, is not clear.

Mixing up the membership of the firearms advisory community will irk people, but I see that as good. All stakeholders should be involved. If the committee is permanently deadlocked, that's fine.

[awndray]

Not radical? Perhaps. It's definitely ill-informed though. I won't bother commenting on every line item because they border on the the ridiculous, but just look at the first one. Without a permit, eh? Really?

[terrym]

That list is exactly what I would expect. The so called "experts" are eveything but and in fact will be as anti gun as it gets. Women's groups, Health care. Yeah, wait for that to be useful... Also requiring vendors to track sales is in fact a registry and one with very little security and privacy attached. As for the "Gun Marking" if that means engraving a serial number not only will it damage firearms it is another registration tool. Expect the gun community to flip over this list and expect Liberal support to take a hit out West but increase in Quebec which is where they will benefit most. This was written to boot Mulcair out of Quebec.

[welsh]

Also requiring vendors to track sales is in fact a registry....

That's the law in the US, where nobody seems too excited about it.

[terrym]

Well Trudough has been trending up for days and the other two trending down. Today on 308.com JT and Harper are basically tied. If this momentum continues that self entitled imbecile with a good family name will be running this country. That crooked incompetent Wynne must be just cackling at the prospect of running the country from the back room. We could be very well F'd.

[Bushmoose]

Well Trudough has been trending up for days and the other two trending down. Today on 308.com JT and Harper are basically tied. If this momentum continues that self entitled imbecile with a good family name will be running this country. That crooked incompetent Wynne must be just cackling at the prospect of running the country from the back room. We could be very well F'd.

Ruining... you meant ruining, right?

[Gun Nut]

Actual Liberal platform on guns, as announced today:


https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/guns/?shownew=1

None of this seems radical, really, although some of it is irksome. Just how they plan to expand background checks, and why they feel this is necessary, is not clear.

Mixing up the membership of the firearms advisory community will irk people, but I see that as good. All stakeholders should be involved. If the committee is permanently deadlocked, that's fine.

Yes sir, you really got to like it. Just when things were beginning to look like we were stepping back from a police state. The Liberal want to land us with both feet right back into one.

You don't stop hunting because you get old. You get old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut

[Waftrudnir]

all the costly nonsense, plus the spy option - or is nothing behind the border technology at all and it's only another empty promise?
not only tax $ to be wasted, firearm prices will go up too when they have to mark them by country (which does not serve any purpose as they are already marked by the manufacturer and can be tracked at the time of import)
I thought there were recent changes made to the advisory board; more law enforcement and police union representation (not that legal firearm owners were ever an issue). The people who were dumped represented retail. We will certainly hear more about border issues, but also complete hand-gun bans and less about how useful registration at the point of sale really is...

Perhaps some (I hope very few) firearm owners were okay with the long gun registry; however, looking at what they are going to do shows that the Liberals lost a sense of reality and financial accountability completely. If they get elected, it'll go beyond bringing the registry back