Return of Long Gun Registry

[welsh]

The policy book is old, and the party has said it is not their platform. Their platform was released last night.

No gun control in the current NDP platform. That's a fact.

You are free to believe that they have a hidden agenda, but don't present it as a fact. Just as you are free to believe the Liberals intend to bring back the gun registry, although they have said they wouldn't, or that the CPC intends further deregulation, which it has not promised and is not promising.

The platform is what the platform is.

[mosquito]

The policy book is old, and the party has said it is not their platform. Their platform was released last night.

No gun control in the current NDP platform. That's a fact.

You are free to believe that they have a hidden agenda, but don't present it as a fact. Just as you are free to believe the Liberals intend to bring back the gun registry, although they have said they wouldn't, or that the CPC intends further deregulation, which it has not promised and is not promising.

The platform is what the platform is.

I stand corrected it isn't part of their election platform......it is just what they said they will do and part of their 2015 policies... for after the vote...funny it was policy up until they thought they might win and it might cost them votes.

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Tom Mulcair says NDP would give police tools to track all guns
'What kind of duck do you hunt with an assault weapon? A pterodactyl?'
http://www.therebel.media/a_gun_regi...eau_or_mulcair
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tom-...guns-1.2859581

NDP 2015 Policy book.

FACT:
https://charrois.files.wordpress.com...olicy-book.pdf


3.8 Justice and crime prevention
Stopping the smuggling of illegal firearms and
enable all municipalities, provinces, and territories
to implement a ban on handguns.

So according to this... "resolutions passed at party conventions"


http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politi...rm-ndp-advisor

From the Policy Book

The NDP’s policy book, reflective of resolutions passed at party conventions, is exhaustive. Among the policies the book says “New Democrats believe in”:

Infrastructure

“Improving rail travel for both passengers and goods, and developing proposals for high-speed systems.”

Jobs

“Creating jobs by investing in the real economy and regulating speculators.”

Trade

“Promoting trade agreements that include enforceable standards for human, workers’ and women’s rights and environmental sustainability, and that protect public services.”

Budgetary policy

“Balancing budgets and confining short-term deficits to severe economic downturns and national security emergencies.”

Agriculture

“Restoring the Canadian Wheat Board as the single desk marketer for wheat and barley.”....
...
Firearms

“Stopping the smuggling of illegal firearms and enable all municipalities, provinces, and territories to implement a ban on handguns.”
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The wheat board is another idiot move among many but saying they aren't going to do what they have passed and said is sort of like the Liberal's about Justin Trudope's comments about his favourite gov't...they can watch the video over and over and he can answer China's dictatorship but they won't believe the realities.

[bushman]

The policy book is old, and the party has said it is not their platform. Their platform was released last night.

No gun control in the current NDP platform. That's a fact.

You are free to believe that they have a hidden agenda, but don't present it as a fact. Just as you are free to believe the Liberals intend to bring back the gun registry, although they have said they wouldn't, or that the CPC intends further deregulation, which it has not promised and is not promising.

The platform is what the platform is.

You're absolutely right, each to their own beliefs. And I fully believe either Tom or Justin,with a majority, will do something with gun control!!

I sincerely hope I am wrong welsh and you were right all along with your thoughts and feelings on the issue.

[greatwhite]

It might not be in their Policy book, but considering Muclair has stated as recently as Aug he would be in some for of tracking who owns what gun's so the Police can track everyone. I guess I will go with what he actually has said. Has the NDP in the past month made any statement that what Muclair said in Aug was wrong??

The policy book is old, and the party has said it is not their platform. Their platform was released last night.

No gun control in the current NDP platform. That's a fact.

You are free to believe that they have a hidden agenda, but don't present it as a fact. Just as you are free to believe the Liberals intend to bring back the gun registry, although they have said they wouldn't, or that the CPC intends further deregulation, which it has not promised and is not promising.

The platform is what the platform is.

[trimmer21]

I sure hope that you're right,welsh,but,I'm still very concerned about Justin Trudeau's comments regarding implementing an "Australian system" which has all but destroyed the hunting and firearms industry in that country.

[welsh]

It might not be in their Policy book, but considering Muclair has stated as recently as Aug he would be in some for of tracking who owns what gun's so the Police can track everyone. I guess I will go with what he actually has said. Has the NDP in the past month made any statement that what Muclair said in Aug was wrong??

They haven't said anything.

I tend to believe Mulcair would bring in UN marking rules and say this is what he meant. Nobody has the stomach to sell a new LGR.

[exocet]

Okay, but, are not the ledgers and notebooks saying CFO on them or any other types of notes gun shops record your info into still some form of registry? Gone are the days where you just show your valid pal, pay, get your item , receipt and go arent they?
Ive seen local gun shops my way record stuff into books, one outright with CFO on the cover. I bet bass pro lebaron and all them are saving record in some form. So the police and government still have means available to track who has what/buys what. or am i wrong?

[MikePal]

Regardless of the political mandate or platform of any party....when there is a massacre of human lives, there is a knee jerk response due to public pressure. That is how we ended up with the LGR in the first place.

All you have to do is look at what happened in Australia....

(note it was a conservative government)

Just 12 days after the 1996 shooting in Port Arthur, then-Prime Minister John Howard – a conservative who had just been elected with the help of gun owners – pushed through not only new gun control laws, but also the most ambitious gun buyback program Australia had ever seen. Some 650,000 automatic and semiautomatic rifles were handed in and destroyed under the program.

I still remember the images of the destruction of all those guns..

[Gilroy]

Regardless of the political mandate or platform of any party....when there is a massacre of human lives, there is a knee jerk response due to public pressure. That is how we ended up with the LGR in the first place.

All you have to do is look at what happened in Australia....

(note it was a conservative government)



I still remember the images of the destruction of all those guns..

It can,t be true a Conservative Government throwing hunters under the bus,where is Rob Ford when we need him,(I never throw my friends under the bus).

[waterrat]

You can twist it any way you want to. Guns are a double win for the NDP an Libs. As we all know there is no longer a LGR, but we still have CFO, RCMP and PAL/RPAL systems. They will bend the gun laws so sideways, and heavily taxed it will kill us. So when you get a letter in the mail from the RCMP stating that as a gun owner, cause you have a PAL, please pay 100$ per firearms you want to legally retain and use. We will gladly pick up the rest. So you say FU, there is no proof. BUT you have a PAL??? TRUE, So ig you have no guns, why have a PAL, which by the way will get very expensive. AGAIN, you say FU, so one day on the way to marsh, you get pulled over for stop sign, speeding etc. WAIT you have a gun?? WELL that is nifty, you said you don't own any. AND so the media circus begins. CHARGES: Illegal possession, illegal transport, fraud against the crown, etc. ONE SCAPEGOAT for the media to hang, and the Libs and NDP to the praises of how they are making the streets safer.. And all by enacting a few back door bills.