Golden chewing his hide

[patvetzal]

Wife says that she has trouble finding Neem oil....has to buy on line

[Bear1959]

We ran into the same typeof thing with our yellow lab years ago. To the point where she was licking herpaws so much they were darker than the rest of her. Spent endless dollars atthe vet i.e. try this...try this...try this.... The end result being the same! Founda site on line that recommended a raw food diet. Being desperate, we worked andswitched her over and have never looked back. She has been on her rawfood diet for about 4 or 5 years and we have never had the problem again. Itmay be something to think about if it does turn out to be a diet issue.

Cheers and Good luck

[exocet]

hey patv, try all the health and natural stores in your area. get mine in sarnia and london. most of those types of stores carry the oil.

[otto11]

We ran into the same type of thing with our yellow lab years ago. To the point where she was licking herpaws so much they were darker than the rest of her. Spent endless dollars atthe vet i.e. try this...try this...try this.... The end result being the same! Founda site on line that recommended a raw food diet. Being desperate, we worked andswitched her over and have never looked back. She has been on her rawfood diet for about 4 or 5 years and we have never had the problem again. Itmay be something to think about if it does turn out to be a diet issue.

Cheers and Good luck

Be careful with the raw food diet, some dogs can handle it and others can't and the effects can be pretty bad. For the dogs they get too much protein which causes any raw meat to not break down properly and just collects in the stomach. My St Bernard/Newfoundland cross was on a raw food diet for about 4 years and just this past August she had spent a day with a family members dog playing non-stop and then later on that night she started making this terrible burp/roar noise and then within 10 minutes her stomach had bloated about 3 times it size.

Her stomach, intestines and spleen had all flipped over and twisted and needed emergency surgery to fix it. This is quite serious and if we had been like 1-2 hours too slow getting her to the vet she would've died. We have no idea how long the food had been collecting and there hadn't been any symptoms to warn us something like this would happen. Now she is on a bland food diet for the rest of her life, small amounts of cooked chicken or fish, rice or oatmeal, scrambled egg and a light and fit dry food and also cooked vegetables. For us she will only eat the chicken, fish, rice and dry food and sometimes she will eat the vegetables.

Hopefully this helps people, this is not a fun process to go through.

[maplevizsla]

I have never heard such nonsense about raw food, too much protein or bloat being caused by undigested/unpassed matter.

If a large breed dog ( heck any size dog) ate a full ( kibble, raw, or cooked homemade) meal and played all day - the insides can flip for sure. Did the dog get dinner too and continue to play into the evening as well?
Either way it doesn't matter. Bloat is bloat is bloat is bloat. Sounds like the dog was not given enough time in between eating and playing. And sounds like the vet is quick to point fingers at a raw diet being the cause.

[exocet]

plain white rice added to dogs diets always helps stomach issues. my hound mostly eats game meat, giver some plain cooked white rice, never a tummy issue

[exocet]

helps solidfy stool btw if any runs etc. dont need alot of the meds and treatments they wanna sell these days. i agree with maple. feed and WATER your dog, run it well and let it play. Especially working dogs, they really need it as does any dog, but hunting breeds are alot of energy and strength. So take care of em inside and out.

[huntingdad]

20 years ago my ex and I had a Weiner dog. Had similar issues. Vet said it's processed dog food. Suggested nutros lamb and rice. Problems stopped. My Dad later raised pups for canine vision. Had a golden with the same issue
switched food and it went away. We kept that golden until he was put down at 13. The issue never returned.

HD

[yellow dog]

Feed Red Paw performance. Problem solved guarantee it.

[maplevizsla]

Exocet - you have it backwards. Read my post again. You are NOT supposed to feed and water your dog prior to exercise - this is a reason bloat is caused. You are supposed to give minimun buffer time of 1-2 hours at least between a meal and then exercise.
But I pointed out it didn't matter what the circumstances were ( age of dog, large or toy breed or what diet it was on) that feeding and playing all day was a more likely cause of the bloat than the actual raw diet its-self, which is what this vet blamed it on and piling up in the gut causing the stomach etc. to flip. I don't believe that raw caused the issue.