180$ fine delevered to my door!

[bulleye]

You are absolutely right GW. This can be disputed.
Would there be a MNR officer on this site forum...HELLO

[trimmer21]

I still find it difficult to understand how they could enforce this law. All one has to say is I mailed it and at that point they should not be able to lay a charge. Mail getting lost is pretty much a normal thing.

There's always the possibilty that whether or not the ticket was issued depended on what the subject's initial answers to the CO's questions were from the get-go,too. If the subject is contrite and readily admits not filing the report,then,he gets the pre-written (in and of itself a big no-no) ticket. If he says "Yes,I did send the report in. I don't know why it wasn't recieved. Maybe,it's lost in the mail",any experienced CO would think twice before issueing a ticket which could wind up in Court when he can't prove it one way or the other. It's not up to the accused to prove himmself innocent,it's up to the CO to provide definitive proof that the offense was committed and these reports aren't rquired to be sent by registered mail. That would have been the tactic I used if it was me and I would have left the CO swingin' in the wind. If necessary,see ya in Court.

[fishermccann]

I think that when you get to the JP you have to swear,(on a bible or not), what you say is true. So are you willing to lie if you did not mail it is the question. Looked it up, less than a third of one % of mail ( 0.027) does not reach its destination in Canada.

[trimmer21]

I think that when you get to the JP you have to swear,(on a bible or not), what you say is true. So are you willing to lie if you did not mail it is the question. Looked it up, less than a third of one % of mail ( 0.0027) does not reach its destination in Canada.

There's an element of doubt whether it's statistical fact or not,the benefit of doubt must always go to the accused.

[fishermccann]

But if you know you did not post it, you must lie in court and say you did. Is that owning up to your mistake? Just lie.

[B Wilson]

There's an element of doubt whether it's statistical fact or not,the benefit of doubt must always go to the accused.

Even with summary summons?

[bulleye]

But there is that percentage of mail that does not get through.
And that was his mail. So his lawyer would have no trouble with that and I believe that this case would be resolved very quickly.

[fishermccann]

He already said on here he did not mail it. He would have to go to court and lie. Would that be a real stand up guy, one willing to own up for their own actions? 99.975 of the time if he mailed it , there would be no CO at his door.

[bulleye]

But were not going to be in court with him... SOOOOOOOO guess what ?

[trimmer21]

But if you know you did not post it, you must lie in court and say you did. Is that owning up to your mistake? Just lie.

Definitely would be a crisis of conscience for most people,besides being illegal.

Even with summary summons?

If one is willing to go to court,yes,absolutely.