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November 30th, 2015, 06:27 PM
#161

Originally Posted by
domination
I dont know of anyone else being fined! I do beleve wath the CO said about there being a list and more tickets but he has not given me the names... I was the only one that had a tag this year out of the few guys i know that apply here in wmu 65. Here we have no party hunt or groups! you apply as an individual. I cant desagree with your other comments. On a moral view its not wright! deleberatly tracking douwn unsucsselfull hunters to fine them for a piece of paper that was not returned!!! The OPP and MTO have more moral then that!!!!
But the co that paid you a visit doesnt have a personal vendetta with you anymore than the opp officer that pulls you over and gives you a ticket for speeding does. And it has nothing to do with whether or not you had a successful hunt. If he indeed had a list of people to be fined like he told you then he doesnt know if the people getting tickets are successful or not same as he didnt know if you were successful or not until he knocked on your door to speak with you. And i dont think we can really call it a cash grab by the mnr when if everyone had reported as required there would have been zero fines to hand out. I understand you made an honest mistake and it stings but if you had looked at everything they sent you when they mailed your tag instead of just being happy you were successful in the draw then you would have known you already had your survey and im sure you would have filed it on time. Yeah it sucks getting dinged for an honest mistake like this but what can you do? You could fight it in court but then you are risking losing a days pay and still having to pay the fine at the end of it all. Btw sorry to hear you didnt bag a moose this year!
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November 30th, 2015 06:27 PM
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November 30th, 2015, 06:39 PM
#162
Thanks for the heads up. i have surveys on deer and bear, which I've postpone completing until after the muzzle-loading season. Today is the final day of the bear season.
You don't stop hunting because grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut
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December 1st, 2015, 02:37 PM
#163
Needs more exclamation points.
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December 1st, 2015, 04:14 PM
#164
There are times when one absolutely should contest a charge even if it means losing a days pay. Many employers would let an employee off with a vacation or sick day to get it done.
Remember once you have a conviction on record, even if its POA then that makes a lot of noise if you get in a compromising situation again.
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December 1st, 2015, 04:26 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
sawbill
There are times when one absolutely should contest a charge even if it means losing a days pay..
And then there are times when you 'man up', pay the fine and move on.
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December 1st, 2015, 04:53 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
MikePal
And then there are times when you 'man up', pay the fine and move on.
Mike I would like to know if a police officer rang your door bell during dinner and asked you to list all the driving offences you committed over the last month, even something as small as going 5km over the speed limit and not coming a complete stop at a stop sign in the middle of night when there was no one even on the road(I say this as this is how petty of an act I think the OP is getting fined with) , so he can write some fines for you, I wonder if you would "MAN UP" or be like the rest of us and say you didn't even drive over the last month.
To the OP its easy for a lot of these people to act all righteous behind a keypad, I would take half of what they say as there true intentions and what they would really do.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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December 1st, 2015, 05:12 PM
#167

Originally Posted by
Big Gunner
To the OP its easy for a lot of these people to act all righteous behind a keypad, I would take half of what they say as there true intentions and what they would really do.
Don't know about the others but ya was cited once for something I thought was a ridiculous charge. Paid the fine and you know what my life hasn't changed one bit. The righteous seem balanced by the anarchist as to attitudes out there. Doesn't matter what they let slide in the past or what they may do in the future only matters in the now. If they decide something is a problem and needs to be nipped in the butt so be it. It takes a bigger person to admit fault and make restitution not so much if you try to find or place the blame on something/one else.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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December 1st, 2015, 05:15 PM
#168

Originally Posted by
Big Gunner
To the OP its easy for a lot of these people to act all righteous behind a keypad, I would take half of what they say as there true intentions and what they would really do.
If you going to play hypothetical scenerios, pick something that is closer to reality; if you get pulled over for not having your plates renewed by your birthday (ie no sticker)....do you take it to court to fight it because they sent you your renewal 3 months ago and didn't send a reminder ?
NO....the cop gives you a ticket, you pay the fine and move on...why would you argue it...it a rule that come with having 'tags'.
And that's not keyboard self-righteousness, it what is expected of us as responsible adults.
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December 1st, 2015, 05:16 PM
#169

Originally Posted by
Big Gunner
Mike I would like to know if a police officer rang your door bell during dinner and asked you to list all the driving offences you committed over the last month, even something as small as going 5km over the speed limit and not coming a complete stop at a stop sign in the middle of night when there was no one even on the road(I say this as this is how petty of an act I think the OP is getting fined with) , so he can write some fines for you, I wonder if you would "MAN UP" or be like the rest of us and say you didn't even drive over the last month.
To the OP its easy for a lot of these people to act all righteous behind a keypad, I would take half of what they say as there true intentions and what they would really do.
I'd pay without complaint. One should not expect to break the law and get away with it. The OP was even presented with written notification of his need to complete the report which he promptly forgot about. Thats no ones fault but his own.
When you're the only one you know of who gets a mandatory report to fill out, you better damn well make sure you fill it out. The list of people COs have to check to ensure compliance is really short.
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December 2nd, 2015, 01:22 PM
#170

Originally Posted by
MikePal
If you going to play hypothetical scenerios, pick something that is closer to reality; if you get pulled over for not having your plates renewed by your birthday (ie no sticker)....do you take it to court to fight it because they sent you your renewal 3 months ago and didn't send a reminder ?
NO....the cop gives you a ticket, you pay the fine and move on...why would you argue it...it a rule that come with having 'tags'.
And that's not keyboard self-righteousness, it what is expected of us as responsible adults.
The Sticker ticket is deserved as it is in plan sight and you are caught, but the CO did not know weather he mailed it out or not, that's why I give you the example of the cop knocking on your door.
So would you be responsible adult or not? Just as you would with the MNRF according to you, you should call the local police station and tell them that you didn't come to a complete stop at such intersection, and you will going down to the station to pick up your fine. because that is "what is expected of us as responsible adults"
I agree with everyone he should have filled out the report and send it in that's a for sure, but for him to get fined for a first offence, that is stupid. I would have said I mailed it. As he has stated he seems to do a lot more then 90% of the people with regards to reports, sending in wings and feathers.
Some of you are going at this as if he poached and shot a rino. He didn't fill out a piece of paper that's all.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.