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December 10th, 2015, 12:47 PM
#111
if one changes something or proposes to, one needs to describe
a) the current & unfavorable situation
b) the future & desirable situation
c) the justification for the change
the election promises leave a lot of interpretation room on the how and what it will actually mean. the only thing that is so far clear is that they will have to act in some form or another on it before the next election
given their majority and attitude, I see the very real possibility of "over achievment" on these topics - makes great headlines just before an election...
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December 10th, 2015 12:47 PM
# ADS
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December 10th, 2015, 12:50 PM
#112
Continuing to assert that the promises are vague doesn't make it true. The majority of the Liberal proposals are in fact quite clear.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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December 10th, 2015, 01:31 PM
#113
In reference to vagueness, this is my take on it. The Liberals are stating that the provision of the ATT being an automatic condition of the RPAL will be repealed. Sounds pretty definitive, yet what is going to be the new implementation? Will it revert to the old method of multiple levels of ATT? Will one have to apply for each and every condition? Given the general misunderstanding of this government I am not confident that they won't come up with something even more ruinous.
So if one is stating that the promises are clear, that may be true. What is unclear is how miserable can they make gun owners?
There is room for all God's creatures - right next to the mashed potatoes!
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December 10th, 2015, 02:13 PM
#114
They're Liberals. You just gotta know they'll fkcu it all up. That's what they do best.
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December 10th, 2015, 02:18 PM
#115
What jr. gonna do with his guns? Keep them in hiding too? Or be a typical hypocritical "elitist" liberal?
See me for the parlay sheets and betting pool................
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December 10th, 2015, 02:52 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
DGearyFTE
In reference to vagueness, this is my take on it. The Liberals are stating that the provision of the ATT being an automatic condition of the RPAL will be repealed. Sounds pretty definitive, yet what is going to be the new implementation?
"Repeal" implies return to the previous state of the law. It's not ambiguous.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/repeal
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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December 10th, 2015, 03:39 PM
#117
It as quite clear he would not spend more then 10 billion, but that has now become a guide line he said. They are making the rules as they see fit.

Originally Posted by
welsh
Continuing to assert that the promises are vague doesn't make it true. The majority of the Liberal proposals are in fact quite clear.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 10th, 2015, 03:43 PM
#118
LGR news from Ontario
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December 10th, 2015, 04:06 PM
#119
The fact he would say it let's officers know if guns are in the residence, he should be fired and never allowed to work again.

Originally Posted by
skypilot
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 10th, 2015, 04:11 PM
#120
Go to the link and read the last line of the article, over and over again. ' The federal government will not create a new long gun registry' , Trudeau said.