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    I'd take the .30-06 over the .270. Not only can you shoot a heavier bullet - which is better from a physics perspective, but the heavier bullets are constructed more solidly - less expansion and better penetration, particularly if you hit a big shoulder bone.

    The only place a .270 holds an edge over the .06 is that it is flatter shooting, so for long range shots (300+ yards), range estimation needs to be a bit less accurate. This is why Jack O'Conner championed it, and without Jack, the .270 wouldn't have near the popularity that it has today.
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    The one thing that will eventually influence your choice is your age - when I was younger I used a 30-06 for deer - at one point I found the kick uncomfortable - went to a 270 for awhile - since most of my hunting in close range I ended up with a 35 Remington - now occasionally I take a 243 with me - they have all served me well over the years - but I must admit that when I was using the 06 the deer didn't go very far - it really took them down quick -

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePa View Post
    The one thing that will eventually influence your choice is your age - when I was younger I used a 30-06 for deer - at one point I found the kick uncomfortable - went to a 270 for awhile - since most of my hunting in close range I ended up with a 35 Remington - now occasionally I take a 243 with me - they have all served me well over the years - but I must admit that when I was using the 06 the deer didn't go very far - it really took them down quick -
    Both with 150gr bullets the 270 and 30-06 have almost identical recoil numbers, you could just drop the bullet weight to 150gr for 30-06 and not bother getting a 270.

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    Unless an ULTRA-LIGHT-rifle is employed none of the "medium-calibers" is unpleasant to shoot (if the stock fits) . It baffles me why people who use SUPER-DUPER-shotgun-charges are concerned about the trivial difference (in recoil) between an 06 and a 270 .

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    OP, if you have a .270 it will do just fine. However if you don't and you aren't a Jack O'Connor fan the 30-06 is likely a much more versatile gun. I started out with a .270 as my first big bore in part due to Jack O'Connor and it has worked well on many bears over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner 38 View Post
    Unless an ULTRA-LIGHT-rifle is employed none of the "medium-calibers" is unpleasant to shoot (if the stock fits) . It baffles me why people who use SUPER-DUPER-shotgun-charges are concerned about the trivial difference (in recoil) between an 06 and a 270 .
    couldn't agree more.
    if you can shoulder a rife/gun properly, recoil should not be an issue up to .300/.416 in a medium weight rifle.

    problem starts when you have been hit a few times and get in the habit of flinching. once you there, don't fool yourself - you'll flinch with a .270 just as much.
    what can help is lots of practice (dry-fire, air rifle) and a well fitting stock/heavier rifle

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    Its not recoil that most people find offensive. Its muzzle blast. Put a decent set of muffs on ones head and they could shoot just about anything without discomfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawbill View Post
    Its not recoil that most people find offensive. Its muzzle blast. Put a decent set of muffs on ones head and they could shoot just about anything without discomfort.
    Ain't that the truth.LOL I had the misfortune to be beside a guy at a range with a .338 Win that had a muzzle brake installed. Jysus,if that doesn't give you the flinches,nothing will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawbill View Post
    Its not recoil that most people find offensive. Its muzzle blast. Put a decent set of muffs on ones head and they could shoot just about anything without discomfort.
    my 300wm is fine for recoil and I enjoy shooting it even tho some say itll break your shoulder or the recoil is too much yadda yadda yadda...well my trick is I dont wear a skirt while shooting - i put my man pants on and its all gravy. As for the noise well...more noise more fun for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    my 300wm is fine for recoil and I enjoy shooting it even tho some say itll break your shoulder or the recoil is too much yadda yadda yadda...well my trick is I dont wear a skirt while shooting - i put my man pants on and its all gravy. As for the noise well...more noise more fun for me
    The noise thing - well that's great while you're young. But if you shoot a lot, your older self will thank you greatly if you wear ear protection.

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