Black bear

[arclight]

A 270 I more then enough for a bear. I have used used a SKS bear hunting, a 270 has about 1,000 foot lbs more energy then 7.62x39.

[Fox]

my 300wm is fine for recoil and I enjoy shooting it even tho some say itll break your shoulder or the recoil is too much yadda yadda yadda...well my trick is I dont wear a skirt while shooting - i put my man pants on and its all gravy. As for the noise well...more noise more fun for me

Sounds like someone who would flinch when I tell you there is a 3 1/2in turkey load in the gun but it is unloaded, ha ha, just a little too macho.

A 270 I more then enough for a bear. I have used used a SKS bear hunting, a 270 has about 1,000 foot lbs more energy then 7.62x39.

The 7.62x39mm is still a 30 cal, the extra energy does not matter if it all ends up in the dirt behind the animal, a 30-30, 7.62x39mm, 300 Win Mag, they will all kill the bear at 30 yards with proper bullet placement, the 270 will as well but the hole will be smaller if all the bullets expand the same amount, if that means you lose the bear then I would go 30 cal, if the bear drops it would not matter at all.

[GrizzlyAdams]

The noise thing - well that's great while you're young. But if you shoot a lot, your older self will thank you greatly if you wear ear protection.

Always do

[JoePa]

When my kids started hunting we would go down the back of my property and shoot at targets set up against a bank - what I would do is get the gun ready for them and tell them that a bullet is in the chamber and all they had to do is take the safe off and pull the trigger - sometimes I wouldn't put a shell in the chamber - boy it was something to see how they would flinch when they pulled the trigger and nothing happened - it was a good way to show them how much they flinched when they pulled the trigger -

Yes the noise from shooting over the years did its damage - can't hear the birds sing or the peeper frogs in the spring anymore - tried hearing aids but just can't get use to them - things are a lot quieter anymore -

[Fox]

When my kids started hunting we would go down the back of my property and shoot at targets set up against a bank - what I would do is get the gun ready for them and tell them that a bullet is in the chamber and all they had to do is take the safe off and pull the trigger - sometimes I wouldn't put a shell in the chamber - boy it was something to see how they would flinch when they pulled the trigger and nothing happened - it was a good way to show them how much they flinched when they pulled the trigger -

Yes the noise from shooting over the years did its damage - can't hear the birds sing or the peeper frogs in the spring anymore - tried hearing aids but just can't get use to them - things are a lot quieter anymore -

I almost took my eye out with a pellet gun when I was young and I have tinnyness in my ears now, I will never shoot with people now without hearing protection, my wife and I have ear muffs that amplify and cutoff for hunting now, not worth it at all. We also have shooting glasses and spare sets for friends, you only have 2 eyes and 2 ears.

[Gunner 38]

Yes the noise from shooting over the years did its damage - can't hear the birds sing or the peeper frogs in the spring anymore - tried hearing aids but just can't get use to them - things are a lot quieter anymore -

Unfortunately , it's already too late for me . After a life-time of shooting and "Diesel-racket" (mechanic and highway-business) my ability to hear has suffered tremendously . --- The "medics" had warned me (during my YOUTH) that my "abusive" sport would lead to "ailments" later on . --- Well , it surely didn't improve my sense of hearing ; not to mention fractured bones in hands and face . --- According to my wife I suffer from selective hearing .

[OakvilleTrading]

I will try 6.5x55 SE. I like my old Mauser 96.

[warningshot]

yepper

[Roe+]

The 7.62x39mm is still a 30 cal, the extra energy does not matter if it all ends up in the dirt behind the animal, a 30-30, 7.62x39mm, 300 Win Mag, they will all kill the bear at 30 yards with proper bullet placement, the 270 will as well but the hole will be smaller if all the bullets expand the same amount, if that means you lose the bear then I would go 30 cal, if the bear drops it would not matter at all.

Have you ever shot a .270? How do you select your bullets? The bullets I use are only10% lighter than a 30-30 bullet, but the damage they do is substantial. Have you tried the new polymer tipped bullets, they are said to expand better than hollow points with a higher ballistic coefficient. Higher velocity rounds like a .270 use the hydrostatic shock principle, they hit faster and do massive damage when they hit.
If you're worried about penetration, try Nosler Partitions, I know more than 1 person who has successfully taken down moose using them.
All bullets do not expand the same. I'm very selective about the ammo I use. I always check it on the range before I use it.

Roe+