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January 7th, 2016, 06:34 PM
#51
Werner, normally I agree with you but having been in the business I've learned that Americans can be as cheap as Canadians and they can be as generous as Canadians. Some of the cheapest were multi millionaires and some of the most generous were blue collar workers who saved for their one trip of a lifetime.
I'm almost certain that the saying that nobody is as cheap as a Canadian was perpetrated by an American.
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January 7th, 2016 06:34 PM
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January 7th, 2016, 08:39 PM
#52

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
At the end point,CDN funds and US funds will hit one of our banks. No business in Canada can operate without them. Even if you operate your entire business with a Canadian bank and a US funds account,conversion is inevitable at some point. That's where they get you and that's where CRA really gets you. Taxes are paid in Canadian funds after conversion and for American outfitter/operators,Uncle Sam gets his "piece",too. It makes one wonder why they bother.
It looks like your not getting my point trimmer.
In the OP's post the situation is a Canadian located camp listing their prices in US dollars.
If a Canadian resident wants to pay in Canadian dollars just do the conversion at the currently listed exchange rate and pay in Canadian dollars.
As it is a business in Canada it is required to accept Canadian dollars as the Canadian dollar is actually the legal currency of Canada.
In this situation Uncle Sam plays no part.
As far as what the camp does with their money after the transaction should make zero difference to the Canadian customer dealing with a business being ran in Canada.
If they want to move the money to the US & pay a bank to exchange the funds it's their option on their own dime.
As for income taxes on the fees it is not part of the customers responsibility.
Last edited by Woodsman; January 7th, 2016 at 08:41 PM.
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January 9th, 2016, 10:38 AM
#53
If the OP does visit lodges as much as they claim, then they would know that 99 percent of lodge guests are Americans. They would also know that the vast majority of lodge owners are also US citizens. When virtually all your clientele are Americans, listing prices on your website in USD just makes sense. Lodges have been operating this way for years, and doing the same thing in their brochures long before the Internet even existed.
Further, Werner is right on the money - most Canadian fishermen are incredibly cheap. Scan through this forum and see how many posts there are whining about the cost of boats, the cost of tackle, even the cost of fishing show tickets. It's not everyone, to be sure, but most.
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January 9th, 2016, 02:44 PM
#54

Originally Posted by
Symmetre
If the OP does visit lodges as much as they claim, then they would know that 99 percent of lodge guests are Americans. They would also know that the vast majority of lodge owners are also US citizens. When virtually all your clientele are Americans, listing prices on your website in USD just makes sense. Lodges have been operating this way for years, and doing the same thing in their brochures long before the Internet even existed.
Further, Werner is right on the money - most Canadian fishermen are incredibly cheap. Scan through this forum and see how many posts there are whining about the cost of boats, the cost of tackle, even the cost of fishing show tickets. It's not everyone, to be sure, but most.
I go too Meta Lake Lodge which is owned by an American and both times out of 35 guests, myself and 3 friends were the only Canadians.
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January 9th, 2016, 07:02 PM
#55

Originally Posted by
Symmetre
Further, Werner is right on the money - most Canadian fishermen are incredibly cheap. Scan through this forum and see how many posts there are whining about the cost of boats, the cost of tackle, even the cost of fishing show tickets. It's not everyone, to be sure, but most.
I don't agree so much. When you compare US prices to Canadian I think it gives folks every right to complain. Specially here in Ontario where we are taxed to the hilt. Doesn't mean they still don't buy equipment though. Just go to any boat launch and admire all those gorgeous boats and high end tackle that Canadians purchase.
Cheers
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January 9th, 2016, 07:25 PM
#56

Originally Posted by
Symmetre
Further, Werner is right on the money - most Canadian fishermen are incredibly cheap. Scan through this forum and see how many posts there are whining about the cost of boats, the cost of tackle, even the cost of fishing show tickets. It's not everyone, to be sure, but most.
That's Bull! As I mentioned to Werner and now to you, Ive run hunts for years and find Americans can be as cheap as Canadians and as generous as Canadians. For every story you tell about Canadians whining, Ill give you two from personal experiences with my US clients.
Ive travelled all across Ontario dealing with US hunters and Ive talked to them while on trips to the States and find they've got the very same concerns about living costs as we do.
Time to put that old wives tale to rest!
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January 9th, 2016, 09:00 PM
#57
Perhaps. But go to any launch ramp in the US and check out how many high end boats and how much high end tackle you see there. Spend one day at a marina in Florida and you will blow your mind adding it all up.
What we spend is chump change.
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January 9th, 2016, 09:03 PM
#58
There are cheapskates in every culture - no one will argue that. But there are more Americans willing to spend the bucks to enjoy a week of fishing at a lodge here than there are Canadians willing to fork out the dollars. Perpahs its a lack of opportunity in the US compared to what we have here, or perhaps is an attitude thing ... that "I'm doing it and the heck with the cost" type of thinking. Either way, the proportion of Americans who spend seems higher than the proportions of Canadians who do.
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January 10th, 2016, 12:02 AM
#59
Still, absolutely no basis for your claims. There are 326 million Americans and only 35 million Canadians. Of course you're going to see a pile of expensive boats in Florida and anywhere else for that matter. For every Canadian willing to splurge there are 10 Americans who can afford to splurge. That is the only difference.
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January 10th, 2016, 08:02 AM
#60
Buying the same equipment in the states is much cheaper then the same here in Canada. Supply and demand, much bigger population. If my buck was going 30 percent further I'd be a big tipper too.