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    You know, reading all this, I wonder what the reaction would be if Mark Muzzo wasn't drunk, but still killed 3 children and a grandfather from distracted driving (reading his cellphone while driving).

    Would the public be just as outraged?

    If so, does anyone have a statistic on how many people still drive and use their cellphone. I'm willing to bet that MANY people do. So it just begs the question ... why has the public gone crazy about drinking and driving (not that I'm condoning it), but yet think it's "better" (as in not as bad as drunk driving) if someone gets killed due to distracted driving?

    Going further ... all those condeming Mark Muzzo ... I hope none of those people for sure drink and drive, but I also hope that none of them use their cellphone and drive ... it's no better than drinking and driving, and I believe the leading cause of accidents today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    You know, reading all this, I wonder what the reaction would be if Mark Muzzo wasn't drunk, but still killed 3 children and a grandfather from distracted driving (reading his cellphone while driving).

    Would the public be just as outraged?

    If so, does anyone have a statistic on how many people still drive and use their cellphone. I'm willing to bet that MANY people do. So it just begs the question ... why has the public gone crazy about drinking and driving (not that I'm condoning it), but yet think it's "better" (as in not as bad as drunk driving) if someone gets killed due to distracted driving?

    Going further ... all those condeming Mark Muzzo ... I hope none of those people for sure drink and drive, but I also hope that none of them use their cellphone and drive ... it's no better than drinking and driving, and I believe the leading cause of accidents today.
    I think the response would be the same. Lots of people still using there cellphones and driving, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    You know, reading all this, I wonder what the reaction would be if Mark Muzzo wasn't drunk, but still killed 3 children and a grandfather from distracted driving (reading his cellphone while driving).

    Would the public be just as outraged?

    If so, does anyone have a statistic on how many people still drive and use their cellphone. I'm willing to bet that MANY people do. So it just begs the question ... why has the public gone crazy about drinking and driving (not that I'm condoning it), but yet think it's "better" (as in not as bad as drunk driving) if someone gets killed due to distracted driving?

    Going further ... all those condeming Mark Muzzo ... I hope none of those people for sure drink and drive, but I also hope that none of them use their cellphone and drive ... it's no better than drinking and driving, and I believe the leading cause of accidents today.
    The responses would been a lot different, you probably wouldn't have heard about it at all (beside local news paper). There are roughly 2000 fatalities in Canada from car accident, which one do you hear about? And if he wasn't rich, it wouldn't have been the same response either.

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    I don't think the response would be the same at all. I think a lot of people would have just shut up about it, because probably 1/3rd of the population is texting and driving (totally my wild guess). So begs the question ... what makes people think they can judge a person who's drinking and driving, when they are doing something just as bad (maybe much worse?) like texting and driving?

    I'm all for punishing Mark Muzzo for killing 3 innocent babies, but I do think it's wrong that society thinks they can act as judge and jury. Social media has just turned us into mob frenzied judgers who overlook our own shortcomings (and hope no one else finds out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkB View Post
    I don't think the response would be the same at all. I think a lot of people would have just shut up about it, because probably 1/3rd of the population is texting and driving (totally my wild guess). So begs the question ... what makes people think they can judge a person who's drinking and driving, when they are doing something just as bad (maybe much worse?) like texting and driving?

    I'm all for punishing Mark Muzzo for killing 3 innocent babies, but I do think it's wrong that society thinks they can act as judge and jury. Social media has just turned us into mob frenzied judgers who overlook our own shortcomings (and hope no one else finds out).
    I can agree somewhat with the comparison. However it is looked at one way when one is incapable of driving(intoxicated) and another when one is capable of driving but distracted for whatever reason. End results CAN be the same as you mentioned.

    I have worked wrecks where a woman was putting on makeup while driving in traffic and looking at herself in the rear view mirror.
    Yep, she rear-ended a guy stopped at a redlight. It is possible for people to be stupid rather than drunk.

    Since stupidity has become epidemic and common, those people give it a pass more so than drunkenness.

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    I'm convinced that he was distracted at the wheel above and beyond being drunk. I drive by that intersection every day and on a bright sunny Sunday afternoon, there's no way he could have not seen a vehicle approaching the intersection, even with the amount of alcohol he had in his system. Running a stop sign is one thing, but not seeing a moving minivan at a completely open intersection is another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckbnot View Post
    I'm convinced that he was distracted at the wheel above and beyond being drunk. I drive by that intersection every day and on a bright sunny Sunday afternoon, there's no way he could have not seen a vehicle approaching the intersection, even with the amount of alcohol he had in his system. Running a stop sign is one thing, but not seeing a moving minivan at a completely open intersection is another.
    Driving impaired and texting is definitely a big NO NO!!! Everyone should know that.....

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    Had a transport truck, who was turning left in front my me today, almost run into me. He had a Timmy's in his hand and was turning the rig left with one hand on the wheel. He lost control momentarily.
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    Distracted driving is now a bigger problem (fatality-wise) than impaired.

    http://www.680news.com/2014/03/04/di...d-driving-opp/

    78 people were killed in distracted driving
    57 impaired deaths
    44 speed-related ones

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    I drive @ 50k a year on business and have seen it all but by far the most prevalent and dangerous thing is imbeciles texting. If they made it legal to just talk on a cell phone while holding it in your hands it would probably save lives. Still distracting but at least they would be looking at the road.
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