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April 21st, 2016, 09:32 PM
#51
The guy should still have a hunt its just that he won't be allowed to hunt an infinite number of bears based on the number of clientele he can draw in. I can name a few outfitters across the province who operated in this fashion, basically high graded then dumped their BMA when it was cleaned out.
So, quotas can be a good thing or bad but at this point in time MNR has absolutely no valid data to back up their assessments.
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April 21st, 2016 09:32 PM
# ADS
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April 22nd, 2016, 08:52 PM
#52
I don't understand the quota business at all. You outfitters that have BMA's and outfit non-resident outfitters have quotas by the sounds of it but, if someone wants to guide residents, they don't need a BMA and don't have quotas. Seems a little unfair to me!!
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April 22nd, 2016, 10:25 PM
#53
I suspect quotas and other newly introduced rules and restrictions are more politically motivated than are actually management motivated.
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April 23rd, 2016, 07:23 PM
#54
Sounds like a bit of discrimination to me by putting quotas on outfitters who cater to non-residents and not on outfitters who cater to residents.
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April 23rd, 2016, 08:01 PM
#55

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
Sounds like a bit of discrimination to me by putting quotas on outfitters who cater to non-residents and not on outfitters who cater to residents.
Maybe now those outfitters can entice us resident hunters with some good deals...
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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April 23rd, 2016, 08:46 PM
#56
Unfortunately it costs as much to bait for residents as it does for non-res hunters. A good part of an outfitters profit comes from the exchange rate so deals for residents probably are not forthcoming.
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April 23rd, 2016, 09:32 PM
#57
I have never had a resident hunter at my place. Not because I don't want them or because their money is CAD. But I always figured, why would they come here bear hunting. There are bears everywhere in Ontario.
Saves a lot of paper work having a resident client, no form 33's. They fill out the questionaire
themselves. They can hunt anywhere in this district outside my BMA ect. If I was a jerk, hunt everyone elses BMA!!!
Yes sounds counter productive, will have to take twice as many to make up loss. But bear outfitting is fun.
But in the end its about controlling and managing the population of bears. Something the OMNR possibly will miss the mark on!!!
Last edited by chris lavoie; April 23rd, 2016 at 10:10 PM.
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April 24th, 2016, 10:11 AM
#58

Originally Posted by
sawbill
Unfortunately it costs as much to bait for residents as it does for non-res hunters. A good part of an outfitters profit comes from the exchange rate so deals for residents probably are not forthcoming.
100% correct Sawbill
Why do I need to give a resident a deal when it costs me the same as baiting for Americans?
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April 24th, 2016, 10:14 AM
#59

Originally Posted by
fratri
Maybe now those outfitters can entice us resident hunters with some good deals...
What do you think a good deal should be?
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April 24th, 2016, 10:17 AM
#60

Originally Posted by
redd foxx
Sounds like a bit of discrimination to me by putting quotas on outfitters who cater to non-residents and not on outfitters who cater to residents.
unfortunately we have to do what the MNR tell us to do