Opp on fish patrol LOL the big sting

[JBen]

I don't get it.

Many years ago, an OPP cruiser followed me for 30 minutes along #28. Just south of Lakefield theres a stop sign. I stopped, went through, accelerated. Next thing I know I see the lights. He ends up giving me a ticket for doing 105 in a 90. I thought, wow you prick. You've been following me for 30 minutes, during which I do nothing wrong, no excessive speeding, no nada..so you know Im not some sped demon racing home........Then because I hit the gas after a stop sign, ( Admit I was chatting with the Ex and not watching the speedometer)..........Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed that day and it wasn't me.

However, I was speeding.

I didn't whine, didn't fight it, I signed it back with the money. I owned my mistake, it's called being mature and a man
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We here complain ALL the time about the lack of enforcement complain all the time about boating accidents, people not wearing PFDs, and more.............

Good job imo, and happy to hear the OPP were on the water this weekend ( A long weekend when there are higher than normal incidents).

AS we'll as roads....I counted all kinds of speed traps this weekend, and saw quite a few pulled over on various roads outside city limits.
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So I guess "my" question is. Which is it?
Do we want to see more enforcement or not?

[MikePal]

So I guess "my" question is. Which is it?
Do we want to see more enforcement or not?

A lot of guys on here are just against any kind of authority JBen...they tell their 'version' of the story and then expect that we will be outraged that some LEO was doing them wrong.

Having the OPP slid up beside the boat to enforce the rules tells me they are doing their jobs to make the water ways safer for all of us. I've never been hassled, don't give them any reason to. It's usually just a pleasant conversation and a "Have a nice Day".

[seabast]

People are netting fish by the thousands - people catch walleyes in deep water and release them only to die - birds are eating fish by the millions - tournaments kill hundreds of fish - and your going to jump on a guy who keeps one fish that is maybe a quarter of an inch out of bounds -

And getting back to measuring a fish - how accurate is the way they measured it - if you press on the fish you can get a bigger number - If I was this guy's lawyer I'd want to see the board that they used to measure the fish and how they handled it when they measured it - no one can made any measuring board exactly 19.70 inches - if the wood got wet the board will expand - there are a number of reasons you can't just say 19.7 and hold fast - there is something called common sense -

And as far as being a carpenter - hows this - I got two beams that are exactly 96 inches apart - and I want to put a board between them - looking at the space I don't know what size board I need - so I take a metal tape measure that has been sitting in the sun - the metal tape has expanded because of how hot it is - I use this tape and measure the space 95 and 14/16 inches - next I use same tape to cut the board at 95 and 14/16 inches - when I put the board between the beams which is 96 inches apart it fits perfectly - this happens even if I don't consider the width of the pencil line I drew on the board and the fact that the saw was perfectly placed on the proper side of the line - so what I am saying is - if the fish is close for Pete's sake use common sense and let it ride -

So if you know what a 1/16" is, we both know very well that he didn't keep that fish by mistake. And the day metal tape shrink or expand that much, two carpenters working on the same project are going to share the same tape!
I couldn't care less if people don't follow rules but don't be a little when you don't and get caught....

[trimmer21]

I don't get it.

Many years ago, an OPP cruiser followed me for 30 minutes along #28. Just south of Lakefield theres a stop sign. I stopped, went through, accelerated. Next thing I know I see the lights. He ends up giving me a ticket for doing 105 in a 90. I thought, wow you prick. You've been following me for 30 minutes, during which I do nothing wrong, no excessive speeding, no nada..so you know Im not some sped demon racing home........Then because I hit the gas after a stop sign, ( Admit I was chatting with the Ex and not watching the speedometer)..........Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed that day and it wasn't me.

However, I was speeding.

I didn't whine, didn't fight it, I signed it back with the money. I owned my mistake, it's called being mature and a man
***********************

We here complain ALL the time about the lack of enforcement complain all the time about boating accidents, people not wearing PFDs, and more.............

Good job imo, and happy to hear the OPP were on the water this weekend ( A long weekend when there are higher than normal incidents).

AS we'll as roads....I counted all kinds of speed traps this weekend, and saw quite a few pulled over on various roads outside city limits.
*****

So I guess "my" question is. Which is it?
Do we want to see more enforcement or not?

^^^^^This!^^^^^ BTW,JBen,that area is only an 80,not a 90. lol

[jaycee]

I thought their was 2 world wars that Canadians gave their lives for to stop tyranny so we could live free in a free country speak freely and enjoy our natural resources freely and not be asked " for our papers " while out fishing.

What did our veterans fight for if our law enforcement officers have become the modern version of the SS while making over 100k a year looking for chicken charges..

Are they here to serve the taxpayer or are we here to serve them.

They are there serving the taxpayer and doing their job by " enforcing the law "

[Guelph1981]

how many people's lives are put in danger by an officers neglect of duty while they are out checking fisherman and not out keeping roads safe.

for those who think this angler is in the wrong do you ever speed ? Drive 110km on the 401 ? Drive 100 in a 80km zone or how about 45 km in w school Zone of 40... Everyone on this forum has crossed a line.. Although your speeding puts people lives in danger let's worry about one silly fish that likely is legal depending on how it's measured.

society doesn't need paid officers carrying guns to do this it can be dealt with by volunteers !

Saying that these officers are neglecting their duty and putting peoples lives in danger is a VERY bold statement and frankly quite ignorant. These officers were exactly where they were told to be, doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing. Just because you dont agree with it does not mean they were neglecting their duties in any way.

Your argument about ppl speediing is invalid. Sure people speed all the time. They also get ticketed when caught. Most people man up and pay the ticket they dont whine and cry about the cops picking on them.

Society doesnt need cops to enforce our boating and fishing laws? We can use volunteers???? This may be the the worst idea ive ever heard. What happens when this volunteer pulls up to a group of guys fishing and wants to inspect their safety gear, their catch and to make sure they dont have liquor on board and they tell him to kick rocks? We definitely need law enforcement enforcing our laws to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. If you want to play outside the rules and keep oversized fish then you deserve what you get when you are caught. Who is to say the fish was only 1/4" over? You said yourself you were 150 feet.away so not like you saw and measured it yourself. It wasnt the opp you said they left right afterwards. Let me guess it was the butt hurt guy that just had his oversized fish taken away and a fine handed to him that was crying that it was only 1/4". If it was really as close as claimed maybe he should have been on the safe side and let it go so he wouldnt be in his current situation.

[Monster29/66]

This is so far over some peoples heads that the world revolves around fisherman and fish.

Lets make this real simple.

When you have the OPP conducting stakeout operations over 1/4" inch of a fish and not violent crimes, drunk driving or child molestors or child its poor utilization of law enforcement we pay taxes for.

the OPPs website says the have a Commitment to Public Safety... How was the publics safety in jeopardy over a fish ?

their was though two stabbing fatalities in Wasaga this long weekend on separate nights, the first party weekend of summer in a party town where fights often breakout.. What surprise eh ! But the fish where safe.

Two women killed on a motor cycle crash in Jarvis, One truck driver killed in Cochrane, and one Teen dead in a crash with a bunch of minors.


And OPP are on fish stake out....While criminals operate freely, unsafe drivers routinely speed on our highways and drive impaired but the fish are safe.

if we need fish cops hire more COs.. Get the cops doing what cops should be doing making a difference in community safety.

[werner.reiche]

This is so far over some peoples heads that the world revolves around fisherman and fish.

Lets make this real simple.

When you have the OPP conducting stakeout operations over 1/4" inch of a fish and not violent crimes, drunk driving or child molestors or child its poor utilization of law enforcement we pay taxes for.

the OPPs website says the have a Commitment to Public Safety... How was the publics safety in jeopardy over a fish ?

their was though two stabbing fatalities in Wasaga this long weekend on separate nights, the first party weekend of summer in a party town where fights often breakout.. What surprise eh ! But the fish where safe.

Two women killed on a motor cycle crash in Jarvis, One truck driver killed in Cochrane, and one Teen dead in a crash with a bunch of minors.


And OPP are on fish stake out....While criminals operate freely, unsafe drivers routinely speed on our highways and drive impaired but the fish are safe.

if we need fish cops hire more COs.. Get the cops doing what cops should be doing making a difference in community safety.

Agree with you M29 - we're short on money for CO's, but can pay 100k/year OPP officers to do this work.
Only the liberal government would see this as being efficient.
They don't seem to realise that both CO and OPP salaries come out of the same taxpayer's pocket.

[MikePal]

They don't seem to realise that both CO and OPP salaries come out of the same taxpayer's pocket.

Since the primary reason the enforcement offices are out on the lakes is to ensure Boating Safety and Alcohol related checks, it makes more sense that they are OPP officers doing that function.

[MikePal]

I'd sure like to know what kind of bino's these guys are using that they could set up a sting from across the lake to see a 1/4" measurement. ..LOL..