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July 22nd, 2016, 10:10 AM
#11
So glad the Brittanys are dual champions. The same dog that can win in the show ring in the morning can be winning a hunt trial in the afternoon.
A bad day hunting is still better than a good day at work!
40 year member of OFAH
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July 22nd, 2016 10:10 AM
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July 22nd, 2016, 11:35 AM
#12
Has too much time on their hands
Originally Posted by
mark_t1012001
So glad the Brittanys are dual champions. The same dog that can win in the show ring in the morning can be winning a hunt trial in the afternoon.
Unfortunately it's just a matter of time before your breed of choice will someday succumb to the show breeder.
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July 22nd, 2016, 04:13 PM
#13
It's a function of the popularity of the breed. Labs are enormously popular as pets and there is a very large number of breeders who have no interest in hunting. Their subjective interpretation of the standard slowly changes and the breed follows. Then breed standards themselves are changed to reflect the dogs that are winning. In Springers, for example, the bench standard has been changed twice since 1947 (I think), which was the last time there was a dual champion, and there is noticeable divergence between bench and field dogs.
I just finished reading The Cocker Spaniel, by Ella Moffit, published in 1938 and referring to what we now know as the American Cocker. It's an interesting book in that it was published at a time when some American Cocker enthusiasts were mounting a (doomed) effort to restore the breed as a sporting dog. You can see how things got to be the way they were, and why efforts to bring back the American Cocker as a field dog failed.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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July 22nd, 2016, 06:07 PM
#14
Pretty sure my DD is safe...thank God
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July 22nd, 2016, 06:26 PM
#15
Originally Posted by
dilly
Pretty sure my DD is safe...thank God
Big advantage to many of those "obscure" versatile breeds.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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July 22nd, 2016, 07:15 PM
#16
Originally Posted by
welsh
Big advantage to many of those "obscure" versatile breeds.
Couple years ago a German Wirehair won best sporting (2013) and I just shuddered. It can be a curse.
Last edited by dilly; July 22nd, 2016 at 07:22 PM.
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July 22nd, 2016, 08:22 PM
#17
Has too much time on their hands
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July 23rd, 2016, 02:40 AM
#18
Originally Posted by
dilly
Couple years ago a German Wirehair won best sporting (2013) and I just shuddered. It can be a curse.
Just pray that Disney doesn't feature it in one of their movies....
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July 25th, 2016, 03:50 AM
#19
Any working dog that wins consistently in field /working trials then i would say you should have a conformation that should be used in those pretty beauty contests.
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July 28th, 2016, 03:16 PM
#20
Signs that maybe the times are changing: in the UK, the Kennel Club has just rewritten the rules for showing GSDs because they felt the breed club was taking too long to address the well-known problems with GSDs in shows....
http://www.bestinshowdaily.com/gsds-...form=hootsuite
That link includes a video of GSD winners at Crufts, which will have you shaking your head.
It'd be nice to see similar action taken with other breed clubs of problem breeds. Labs are one.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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