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July 22nd, 2016, 07:31 AM
#11
In Ontario at least, to sell meat to the public it has to be slaughtered and butchered in a Government inspected facility. I have never seen moose in an abattoir before. I can give away my pork that I butchered myself, but I cant sell it. I use to have farm elk and it was regulated like beef cattle. I would not trust a pack of moose in a freezer on a reserve as far as I could throw it. Sad times for Ontario wild game and fish.
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July 22nd, 2016 07:31 AM
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July 22nd, 2016, 07:36 AM
#12
How much do I have pay them to leave the moose alive so I can hunt it.
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July 22nd, 2016, 07:57 AM
#13
Should be illegal for everyone, I can see them hunting and over netting ( walleye )for there own consumption but to profit from it is just outright wrong, making $$$$ of it will just lead to greed and more over harvesting.
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July 22nd, 2016, 08:21 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
roybo
In Ontario at least, to sell meat to the public it has to be slaughtered and butchered in a Government inspected facility. I have never seen moose in an abattoir before. I can give away my pork that I butchered myself, but I cant sell it. I use to have farm elk and it was regulated like beef cattle. I would not trust a pack of moose in a freezer on a reserve as far as I could throw it. Sad times for Ontario wild game and fish.
Not quite true, you can give away wild game that you have killed but it is illegal for domestic animals to leave the property or served to anyone outside the immediate family if self slaughtered. You can butcher it yourself but it is the slaughter that is the issue. Inspectors will inspect the animal before slaughter and after slaughter to make sure the animal was not sick and also make sure that it cools at a proper rate. The butchering is just something that most people have lumped together into the slaughter but once it is killed legally at an abattoir you can sell it.
Please do not speak of giving away animals you killed at home, it can get you into a world of trouble.
I looked into an abattoir for my rabbits, too far from my home to be worth it, sold live only or for personal use only.
The food banks and soup kitchens will not accept wild game in Ontario but the Natives can sell it, total BS.
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July 22nd, 2016, 11:51 AM
#15
I only used the abattoir in Blackstock for my elk and red deer. One in Stayner for my Beef cattle when I had them.
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July 23rd, 2016, 06:26 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
COYHUNTER
If you buy the meat..........they will go and get another one..........??
Agree but probably old meat. Makes no difference if anyone buys it, do you think if it is frozen too long and not sold it will make a difference.
Experience is what you gain when you didn't get what you wanted.
Many are called but only a few are chosen.
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July 23rd, 2016, 06:53 AM
#17
Depending on how fatty it was, how well it was wrapped etc...frozen moose meat can easily last a year or better.
Last edited by MikePal; July 23rd, 2016 at 03:28 PM.
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July 23rd, 2016, 03:31 PM
#18
found this article on a similar case...looks like the practice is illegal.
However the article is not dated and no idea what the trial found.
Over a two-year period, an undercover police operation seized 1,800 kilograms of fish, deer and moose meat from Native and non-Native hunters and fishers. The catches were seized under the Ontario Game and Fish Act which prohibits buying, selling or trading wild game.
The provincial government concedes Natives in the Robinson-Huron treaty area have the right to hunt and fish for use within their own community under treaty rights.
"(It is) the sale, primarily to non-Native that gives us the concern," stated Broad.
But selling game isn't a treaty right, "therefore the law applies," he added.
http://www.ammsa.com/publications/wi...egal-sale-game
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July 24th, 2016, 09:16 AM
#19
Yeah I thought it was illegal for them to sell. They have commercial fisherman and that's who sells the walley I believe. But I also know not all the laws are followed and can't see many COs taking that on....
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July 25th, 2016, 05:15 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I can't remember the exact particulars but there is something about Robinson-Huron Treaty and them not having some of the same rights or privileges as other Treaties.
Last edited by Muskyhunter; July 26th, 2016 at 05:52 AM.