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July 28th, 2016, 03:54 PM
#21
Wow. That's good news.
( Another breed ruined by popularity is the Jack Russell Terrier. Sees often in movies etc and bought by many. Not a "first time dog " so many end up in shelters. The breed club has now changed the look/names to Russell Terrier and Parson Russell Terrier. )
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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July 28th, 2016 03:54 PM
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July 28th, 2016, 08:07 PM
#22
And in the same vein, this is what you can be facing if you don't address your problems:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-envi...form=hootsuite
In short: researchers at UC Davis have suggested the English Bulldog does not have enough genetic diversity to fix its various breed-standard-related health issues without outcrossing with other breeds.
Both these reports are from the UK, where there's a high level of consciousness of these kinds of problems. On the other hand, that has produced a high number of nitwits who think all pedigreed dogs face the same issues and all breeders are unethical greedheads....
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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July 29th, 2016, 10:27 AM
#23
good info Welsh. After reading the steps the British Kennel Club is taking to try and rectify the deformities now seen in many breeds it is encouraging. For many breeds it looks like it is too late without interjecting genetics from similar dog breeds.
It really borders on inhumane practices to breed British Bulldogs in Britain given the litany of genetic issues now inherent in the breed. It is heart wrenching to see the difficulties those dogs now face.
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July 29th, 2016, 02:45 PM
#24
Good for the British (and Germans) - they know/love their sporting/working dogs like no other. I doubt sporting/working standards will change back to intended standard without their involvement.
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July 29th, 2016, 02:49 PM
#25
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Roper
Good for the British (and Germans) - they know/love their sporting/working dogs like no other. I doubt sporting/working standards will change back to intended standard without their involvement.
Well said Roper.
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July 29th, 2016, 03:46 PM
#26

Originally Posted by
dilly
Pretty sure my DD is safe...thank God
The German breed club that manages the DD will never let the breed be ruined. Some DD's may get ruined but not the breed. I like the Brittany thinking. My dog's mother is a DC. Field and show finished champion.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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July 29th, 2016, 05:55 PM
#27
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
terrym
The German breed club that manages the DD will never let the breed be ruined. Some DD's may get ruined but not the breed. I like the Brittany thinking. My dog's mother is a DC. Field and show finished champion.
Unfortunately we all know of purebred working bloodlines kennels that have questionable looking specimens that resemble somewhat the breed. I was at a English Springer Spaniel field trial and really thought the one dog participating was an English Setter. I had to ask one of the other participants why a setter was participating. He laughed and said that it was indeed an English Springer Spaniel with a big grin on his face. Don't get me wrong i believe many breeds need improvement and genetic diversity can be a huge benefit.
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August 4th, 2016, 12:27 PM
#28
On the topic of Westminster ... every time a sporting breed wins it (most recently a GSP) we see a lot of fretting about how the new popularity of the breed is going to ruin the breed, send thousands of dogs to shelters, etc., etc.
Turns out, not. Hal Herzog got his mitts on the AKC's registration data from 1927 - 2005 and crunched the numbers. Winning Westminster had no noticeable effect on the popularity of a breed, as measured by the number of puppies registered annually.
What does have an effect is movies, TV, what breed the President chooses, and so on.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ns-westminster
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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August 4th, 2016, 02:49 PM
#29
shows are not so much popularity of the breed but a modification to an interpretation of the breed standard that makes for a fat lab.
For sure Welsh I doubt many folks outside of dog show world watch it anyway, not much to see here with athletic humans trotting alongside pampered pups lol.
I think Sharon mentioned Frasier screwing up JRT's. Good case it point.
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August 4th, 2016, 05:52 PM
#30

Originally Posted by
bardern
shows are not so much popularity of the breed but a modification to an interpretation of the breed standard that makes for a fat lab.
Yup, two separate issues. But since we had a Westminster thread going I thought I'd mention it here.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)