Wind company asks landowners to ban hunting

[welsh]

To me, the big worry here is not that this company is asking landowners to ban hunting, because most will just shrug and ignore the request. They're used to working outdoors during hunting season already.

The bigger worry is that these companies will start including a clause requiring the landowner to prohibit hunting in their future agreements with landowners. That would be a huge problem and I hope the OFAH would push back hard.

[LowbanksArcher]

I have absolutely no respect for the farmer that crawls into bed with any of these wind turbine companies. They don't give a rats a** that a large portion of what they are being paid is subsidized by the taxpayer. Shame on them greedy scoundrels.

Agree 100%. Our farm was to be wedged between 2 of these monstrosities. Neighbour on one side gladly signed on the dotted line (doesn't even live on the property). But the small beef farmer neighbour on the other side of us turned them down. Twice! $50,000/yr for 1 turbine. $1 million dollar contract for 20 years. Nope. He asked if we had signed up next door, when the pencil neck CEO said 'no', he turned it down. There's a man I can RESPECT.

[DGearyFTE]

Agree 100%. Our farm was to be wedged between 2 of these monstrosities. Neighbour on one side gladly signed on the dotted line (doesn't even live on the property). But the small beef farmer neighbour on the other side of us turned them down. Twice! $50,000/yr for 1 turbine. $1 million dollar contract for 20 years. Nope. He asked if we had signed up next door, when the pencil neck CEO said 'no', he turned it down. There's a man I can RESPECT.

Clearly your neighbour has integrity as do you.

[MikePal]

and to reiterate another point, what brought the liberals into power WAS the rural vote...all over the province, and country....much to my dismay.

not quite accurate..notice the concentration of RED...

The bigger worry is that these companies will start including a clause requiring the landowner to prohibit hunting in their future agreements with landowners. That would be a huge problem and I hope the OFAH would push back hard.

Yes indeed....even if it's nothing more than forcing the farmer to increase his insurance rates to cover damage incurred by hunting on the property.

some of the legal issues landowners face down south...probably equally applicable up here.

While current uses of the property are reserved to the landowners (such as farming, ranching, hunting, and oil, gas and other mineral exploration/development), these reserved rights are almost always subordinated to the wind company’s exclusive right to wind development without interference. For example, a proposed lease might provide:

Likewise liability coverage must be examined with special consideration given to any concurrent uses by the landowner or those whose rights are derived from the landowner (i.e. farming, hunting etc.). Generally, the agreement should specify requirements for applicable insurance policies typical of landlord/tenant relationships and include minimum coverage limits, maximum deductibles and waivers of subrogation.

http://www.mcafeetaft.com/wind-law-a...rs-perspective

[fishermccann]

Clearly your neighbour has integrity as do you.

Or enough money so they don't have to give into temptation. Some don't have that choice, because maybe that million will save the family farm.

[JBen]

We do every 4 yrs; also something many have died for to provide us.

Well said Mike.
People forget that freedom is a double edged sword. While every story, is unique in its own right this (to me anyways) differs some. In so much as the combined greed, corruption, self serving interest, NIMBYSM, hear no evil, see no evil, lack of moral compasses so obviously and patently on display by those who live in the golden TA, reap so many benefits, and pay little prices.

Have trashed this province. Figuratively (the landscape and eyesores) and literally. And until there is some much needed electoral reform (number of ridings, concentrations, unions and conflict of interest). Well rural Ontarians are paying huge prices.

be that as it may, put the blame where it belongs. Politics and those who despite oh so much, elected this crew. Sad truth is, there were two chances to stop the insanity. 2011 and again in 2014.

too late now and really "you reap what you sow"

As I said. The gall!! Of these companies who on top of everything else, are responsible for hard feeling and rifts in rural communities and tearing them apart as well.
Yep, obviously.

[zoli 16ga.]

Well I'll agree I'm not knowledgeable enough to put down numbers, scroll through this and pick out the number of MP's elected in rural areas. Again, I voted PC just to be clear.

https://www.liberal.ca/mp/

http://www.ontarioliberal.ca/OurTeam/WhoWeAre/MPP.aspx

[LowbanksArcher]

Or enough money so they don't have to give into temptation. Some don't have that choice, because maybe that million will save the family farm.

DEFINITELY not. It's all integrity with this fellow. Remember, the landowners that sign up also sign a non-disclosure agreement that forbids them from telling anyone about the project before it's publicly announced. To prevent neighbours from being able to defend their properties. (ie. Pulling building permits)
I don't think I could sign that in good conscience. Couldn't do that to my neighbours.

[yellow dog]

Or enough money so they don't have to give into temptation. Some don't have that choice, because maybe that million will save the family farm.

I know many farmers and the majority are very well off. I use to sell milking equipment in the Ottawa Valley for about a year and had just over 200 hundred customers that were farmers. I recall only two that may have jumped at the opportunity if given but for the most part these two farming operations were poorly managed and would go under. Most farmers pass the family down from generation to generation and if they have no one to pass it down to they sell it making huge profits. Farmers are typically good money managers and are for the most part able to buy land to expand the farm because of their asset's . We can only dream about getting into farming as a way of life or career but simply cannot afford to along with a financial support of a Bank. To me it's simply greed.

[fishermccann]

So it is the farmers fault? If they just say no, then the problem of the wind farm blight is solved. On the other hand, it is their land , they can do what they want on it, and who are we/you to say any different.