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    Quote Originally Posted by blasted_saber View Post
    The question is if she knew it was private property beforehand, or not.

    "Yach admitted she was operating her ATV on private property at the time of the collision, but said she's used the narrow dirt road near Highway 303 since she was a small child to tap maple trees and splash through puddles."


    It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.
    As well they should be! Whether the land owner had intent to injure or not, it is clear there was intent to put up a barrier of sorts. By not properly marking and warning of the danger on what was a well used trail, the land owner should have his arse handed to him.

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    Again most are assuming it was the landowner who strung the wire.
    Article doesn't state this.
    I have no way of know just like everyone else.
    Let's not make assumptions without any facts.
    Let the investigation do it's job.




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    Quote Originally Posted by blasted_saber View Post
    The question is if she knew it was private property beforehand, or not.
    Actually that isn't a valid question.
    Private or not doesn't necessary equal trespassing.
    Not sure on Que. laws but in Ontario in this situation if not posted or being given a verbal warning to leave it very well may not constitute trespassing.
    Just because it's privately owned in many cases does not mean you can not enter legally.




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    Quote Originally Posted by seabast View Post
    She is the victim so I don't think it will really matter. No one should put a wire accross a trail to stop trespassing, cut a tree, make a fence and so on.....
    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.
    My intent was not to suggest otherwise. Obviously I agree that he created a very dangerous situation. I was simply stating that its unclear if she knew she was trespassing at the time of the incident.

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    Normally a property owner would use a piece of chain with a red and orange triangle tractor sign image.png bolted to the middle of it not a bare cable to limit access to their property. Would be interesting to kmow how the cable was secured to the posts, was it fixed in a permanent manner or in a way it could be unhooked and lowered to allow access.

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    I don't know; so someone owns a piece of land and for the pleasure of being "private" and off-limits to others, they have to pay taxes (which can be a significant $$). those taxes are to pay for police by the way, which all too often does not consider trespassing worth bothering with.
    so on top of paying money to the government with zero return and being harassed by trespassers, the landowner most likely ends up in court and if lucky has at least the additional expense for a good lawyer after some scumbag insures herself in the course of violating the laws. offenders and criminals always seem to get away and the victim gets it double

    maybe he marked it properly and the sign got missing after the accident; in our crooked society that wouldn't be surprising.
    I feel for the guy who owns the land!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmoose View Post
    As well they should be! Whether the land owner had intent to injure or not, it is clear there was intent to put up a barrier of sorts. By not properly marking and warning of the danger on what was a well used trail, the land owner should have his arse handed to him.
    Absolutely.
    I came across a wire strung between 2 trees once in a conservation area. Someone I guess didn't want ATV's using that path by the pond. We took it down and reported it.
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    What if you cut down some trees across the path or put up a barrier and a tresspasser ran into it and hurt themselves, Still landowners fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farsider View Post
    What if you cut down some trees across the path or put up a barrier and a tresspasser ran into it and hurt themselves, Still landowners fault?
    Your question is like a little game? Too many "what if's"?

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