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August 25th, 2016, 08:35 PM
#31

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
The question is if she knew it was private property beforehand, or not.
"Yach admitted she was operating her ATV on private property at the time of the collision, but said she's used the narrow dirt road near Highway 303 since she was a small child to tap maple trees and splash through puddles."
It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.
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August 25th, 2016 08:35 PM
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August 25th, 2016, 08:47 PM
#32

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.
As well they should be! Whether the land owner had intent to injure or not, it is clear there was intent to put up a barrier of sorts. By not properly marking and warning of the danger on what was a well used trail, the land owner should have his arse handed to him.
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August 25th, 2016, 09:30 PM
#33
Again most are assuming it was the landowner who strung the wire.
Article doesn't state this.
I have no way of know just like everyone else.
Let's not make assumptions without any facts.
Let the investigation do it's job.
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August 25th, 2016, 09:38 PM
#34

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
The question is if she knew it was private property beforehand, or not.
Actually that isn't a valid question.
Private or not doesn't necessary equal trespassing.
Not sure on Que. laws but in Ontario in this situation if not posted or being given a verbal warning to leave it very well may not constitute trespassing.
Just because it's privately owned in many cases does not mean you can not enter legally.
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August 26th, 2016, 03:37 AM
#35

Originally Posted by
seabast
She is the victim so I don't think it will really matter. No one should put a wire accross a trail to stop trespassing, cut a tree, make a fence and so on.....

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
It doesn't matter. If someone creates a hazard likely to cause injury,they're screwed,private property or not.
My intent was not to suggest otherwise. Obviously I agree that he created a very dangerous situation. I was simply stating that its unclear if she knew she was trespassing at the time of the incident.
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August 26th, 2016, 06:49 AM
#36
Normally a property owner would use a piece of chain with a red and orange triangle tractor sign image.png bolted to the middle of it not a bare cable to limit access to their property. Would be interesting to kmow how the cable was secured to the posts, was it fixed in a permanent manner or in a way it could be unhooked and lowered to allow access.
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August 26th, 2016, 01:39 PM
#37
I don't know; so someone owns a piece of land and for the pleasure of being "private" and off-limits to others, they have to pay taxes (which can be a significant $$). those taxes are to pay for police by the way, which all too often does not consider trespassing worth bothering with.
so on top of paying money to the government with zero return and being harassed by trespassers, the landowner most likely ends up in court and if lucky has at least the additional expense for a good lawyer after some scumbag insures herself in the course of violating the laws. offenders and criminals always seem to get away and the victim gets it double
maybe he marked it properly and the sign got missing after the accident; in our crooked society that wouldn't be surprising.
I feel for the guy who owns the land!
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August 26th, 2016, 05:25 PM
#38

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
As well they should be! Whether the land owner had intent to injure or not, it is clear there was intent to put up a barrier of sorts. By not properly marking and warning of the danger on what was a well used trail, the land owner should have his arse handed to him.
Absolutely.
I came across a wire strung between 2 trees once in a conservation area. Someone I guess didn't want ATV's using that path by the pond. We took it down and reported it.
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August 26th, 2016, 07:44 PM
#39
What if you cut down some trees across the path or put up a barrier and a tresspasser ran into it and hurt themselves, Still landowners fault?
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August 26th, 2016, 07:49 PM
#40

Originally Posted by
farsider
What if you cut down some trees across the path or put up a barrier and a tresspasser ran into it and hurt themselves, Still landowners fault?
Your question is like a little game? Too many "what if's"?