Regulation questions

[jaycee]

Is the deer or moose, not already been prepared for consumption once you have taken out the liver and heart and ate it right there at camp for your first meal of that animal?

[blasted_saber]

MikePal,

I would make the argument that once the skinning begins, a hunter has begun processing the meat for consumption (whether or not the hunter completes the butching process or has someone else complete it) and at that point the tag no longer is required to be with the meat. Not implying you are doing anything wrong by bringing the tags with you to butcher and leaving them on the truck, I am just stating how I believe the law is written.

Dyth

I have yet find a butcher who will accept a deer without a tag for it.

[MikePal]

I have yet find a butcher who will accept a deer without a tag for it.

Absolutely no legal requirement for them to check. Do they ask to see your ID too ? Do they write it into a log book ? Who do they show it to ? No CO would have any interest in it, meaningless info.

Do they check your PAL too ?

Never meet one that did...none of the 5 butchers around here care who shot the deer...none of their concern. Once the carcass is on their property, in their possession, it's being processed.

[angustheryan]

(b) keep the seal attached to the game wildlife while it is being transported and, in the case of wild turkey, keep the seal attached to the wild turkey until it is prepared for consumption

Gotta look at the law and read it as it is interpreted by a LEO.....Sec 17(1)(b) reads.... keep the seal attached while it is being transported.....the rest seems to deal with Wild Turkey only. That is my interpretation, but I'm not the CO.

[MikePal]

That's why we throw the heads in the truck...

However..it's not the intent of the law to restrict hunters from skinning their deer at the camp in preparation to transport it to a butcher. Since that removes any identification as to the gender, there is no need for the tag to exist anymore and the hunter who shot the deer may no longer even be in possession of it while it's being transported.

But some anal CO might get take it a little too literal, so it's best to be prepared.

[jaycee]

In the latest OOD MAG. Fall/2016 PAGE 16 " The Spoils Of Success" something very interesting stands out.

David Critchlow says "that while transporting carcasses, the tag must remain attached untill it's left at it final destination.
This was under "options for disposing of carcasses"

So I see that by him saying this , the tag must always remain on and with the carcass, no matter what, this is straight from "the horses mouth".

[MikePal]

David Critchlow says "that while transporting carcasses, the tag must remain attached untill it's left at it final destination.

Yes but it can be argued that the 'pole' at the hunt camp is the final destination..that once the deer is skinned there, sex become indeterminate and it is no longer a deer, but a meat carcass.

Far too many scenario's and way to many what ifs....common sense has to prevail eventually.

We have never had trouble, nor has anyone at the local camps or even stories from the butcher who lend any credence that it is an issue to carry skinned deer with no tags.

[jaycee]

[COLOR=#333333]Yes but it can be argued that the 'pole' at the hunt camp is the final destination..that once the deer is skinned there, sex become indeterminate and it is no longer a deer, but a meat carcass.

Well Mike , you can argue that with David Critchlow any way you want , up,down left or right , it is yours to argue, but theirs to decide.

[redd foxx]

I side with MikePal on this. Lets say I shoot a bull moose and debone all the meat in the bush (after I attach the seal to the tendon of the leg leaving skin and the scrotal sac attached of course). The seal, leg with tendon and sac is now separate from the meat but still attached to the carcass. I can leave the carcass in the bush (with the seal etc attached as per the directions) and transport the meat. The seal is remaining attached to the carcass while the transport is occurring and (in my view) according to the law. Same with deer, etc in similar situations.

[Bushmoose]

I side with MikePal on this. Lets say I shoot a bull moose and debone all the meat in the bush (after I attach the seal to the tendon of the leg leaving skin and the scrotal sac attached of course). The seal, leg with tendon and sac is now separate from the meat but still attached to the carcass. I can leave the carcass in the bush (with the seal etc attached as per the directions) and transport the meat. The seal is remaining attached to the carcass while the transport is occurring and (in my view) according to the law. Same with deer, etc in similar situations.

That may well be the letter of the law, but I'm sure you realize that if you're stopped at the roadside, on your way home, you're going to have some "splainin" to do?