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November 12th, 2016, 08:54 AM
#21
Call 911 and tell them there are 5 men with loaded weapons at your place. Tell the operator that they verbally threatened your 70 year old mother and you are all worried about your safety. Ask the hunters if they like apples as you hang a lock on your gate, locking them in until the 4 opp cruisers arrive
Last edited by Fenelon; November 12th, 2016 at 10:16 AM.
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November 12th, 2016 08:54 AM
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November 12th, 2016, 09:33 AM
#22

Originally Posted by
bugs_bunny
Their is another charge I heard of it is called somthing like trespassing with the a gun or trespassing with the intent to hunt trespassing with a gun in your hand is totally different situation
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FWCA 10(1)(a) trespass to hunt $100 Whup-de-do!
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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November 12th, 2016, 09:37 AM
#23
I had some kids from behind my house wandering through my yard after dark (in a subdivision). The LEO that attended claimed it's not just a trespass if it's at night. It's considered much more serious. Did they enter the area before dawn??
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November 12th, 2016, 09:39 AM
#24

Originally Posted by
Fenelon
Ask the hunters if they like ales as you hang a lock on your gate, locking them in until the 4 opp cruisers arrive
Haha. Unfortunately they're only livestock fences. Easy to climb over or under. In fact, 2 years ago my unfortunate mother again arrived just as 1 of 3 hunters were climbing over the gate. One of them proceeded to tell her that he's been hunting there since before we owned it (15+ yrs) and he will continue to and there's nothing she can do about it.
If anyone questions why some of my posts on this forum sometimes seem very antagonist towards gun hunting and party hunting in general in southern Ontario, it's this type of behavior that has left a sour taste in my mouth. As a strict bowhunter who believes in low pressure hunting and leaving no footprint as a steward of the land, this type of behavior is a disgrace.
Next year, I'll be taking time off work during this week. Video camera in hand. Even if only for a $75 trespassing fine.
A trophy is in the eye of the bow holder
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November 12th, 2016, 10:08 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
bugs_bunny
Their is another charge I heard of it is called somthing like trespassing with the a gun or trespassing with the intent to hunt trespassing with a gun in your hand is totally different situation
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Originally Posted by
trimmer21
FWCA 10(1)(a) trespass to hunt $100 Whup-de-do!
How quick we forget. Just ask Sparky494. Blood trail thread from last year. Kind of answers the question "ya I shot it on this side of the fence but died on your side of the fence. . As a side note he was Bow hunting so its just not gun hunters so its not the weapon of choice but the person who wheels it. Guess we need a new tee shirt. Guns don't trespass criminals do.
http://www.muskokatodaily.com/?p=23291
Total fine $1500 should discourage trespassing eh?
Last edited by finsfurfeathers; November 12th, 2016 at 10:12 AM.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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November 12th, 2016, 10:31 AM
#26
Call MNR enforcement. If no response, you call again to the District Office and talk/leave a message with the Enforcement Coordinator. Log it on Crimestoppers too. Who cares if the fine is only $100. The disruption and hassle that the CO gives them will allow you to sleep at night. Bare minimum, they will be field checked (including any deer they have), they WILL be forced to leave the property by the CO when he witnesses you, as the landowner, asking them to get off your property, as per the legal conditions of the Act. When you call the CO for the second time and they have to attend the scene again, there will be a negative reaction for these boys. You do all this after you've already involved the cops via 911, stressing that these guys are armed and you feel threatened.
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November 12th, 2016, 11:16 AM
#27
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Fenelon
Call 911 and tell them there are 5 men with loaded weapons at your place. Tell the operator that they verbally threatened your 70 year old mother and you are all worried about your safety. Ask the hunters if they like apples as you hang a lock on your gate, locking them in until the 4 opp cruisers arrive
Good advice.
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November 12th, 2016, 11:30 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
DanO
The LEO that attended claimed it's not just a trespass if it's at night. It's considered much more serious.
Trespass by Night is a Criminal Code offence, so yes, it is much more serious. But it probably does not apply here. It only applies when someone is loitering or prowling near a residence without lawful excuse. I don't believe this happened near a residence (i.e., on the immediate grounds), and I am not certain that entering a property to hunt (however illegally) would qualify as loitering or prowling. The purpose of the Criminal Code section is to allow for charges against prowlers before they actually break and enter. What we have here is simple trespassing regardless of the time of day.

Originally Posted by
Fenelon
Bare minimum, they will be field checked (including any deer they have), they WILL be forced to leave the property by the CO when he witnesses you, as the landowner, asking them to get off your property, as per the legal conditions of the Act. When you call the CO for the second time and they have to attend the scene again, there will be a negative reaction for these boys. You do all this after you've already involved the cops via 911, stressing that these guys are armed and you feel threatened.
I tend to agree, the $75 fine may seem like peanuts but the fine and associated hassles are a deterrent. However, calling 911 and trying to overblow the situation is not a good idea. Sure, nobody can prove you didn't feel threatened -- but the cops aren't stupid. They know when they're being jerked around. Saying that you feel threatened by a group of armed men is not the same thing as saying that you have a group of hunters trespassing and are concerned for your family's safety. The truth works here all by itself.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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November 12th, 2016, 11:36 AM
#29

Originally Posted by
Fenelon
Call MNR enforcement. If no response, you call again to the District Office and talk/leave a message with the Enforcement Coordinator. Log it on Crimestoppers too. Who cares if the fine is only $100. The disruption and hassle that the CO gives them will allow you to sleep at night. Bare minimum, they will be field checked (including any deer they have), they WILL be forced to leave the property by the CO when he witnesses you, as the landowner, asking them to get off your property, as per the legal conditions of the Act. When you call the CO for the second time and they have to attend the scene again, there will be a negative reaction for these boys. You do all this after you've already involved the cops via 911, stressing that these guys are armed and you feel threatened.
Of course,the down side to this is when CO and Police find the "I feel threatened by armed intruders" is flat out BS,the next time you call,you'll go to the bottom of the list of calls in priority guaranteeing that any trespasser will be long gone by the time they "get around to" your call regarding your complaint as from the local crack pot.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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November 12th, 2016, 11:54 AM
#30
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Of course,the down side to this is when CO and Police find the "I feel threatened by armed intruders" is flat out BS,the next time you call,you'll go to the bottom of the list of calls in priority guaranteeing that any trespasser will be long gone by the time they "get around to" your call regarding your complaint as from the local crack pot.
In my opinion anyone on My Property with a gun warrants a 911 call. I would make sure it reaches the local newspaper so others in the community know that they should be looking out for people trespassing on private property. Especially if they have been so bold to come on my property in the first place or have been doing it for years ! Who knows what these people are capable of doing.
Last edited by yellow dog; November 12th, 2016 at 12:04 PM.