Outdoors card renewal complaining again

We did get a few turkeys a few years back for our $$ and a couple moose.

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Originally Posted by fratri

Lots of ways to spin it.....here is my take on it....

We hunters are game managers. We are doing the rest of the province and insurance companies a favour by managing Ontario game species for all Ontario residents....

Why do we game managers (hunters) have to pay a fee to manage our Ontario resources, shouldn't the government be paying us to do that? Why is it the other way around? It's so unfair us hunters (game managers) get panelized for managing our provinces wildlife.

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Maybe I'm just pessimistic in my belief that if game went unmanaged some people would take advantage and cause populations to collapse. If we don't pay fees there would be less Conservation Officers and such (Although we need way more of them anyway....) with more people to take advantage.

On the other hand I really hope that all the money they do take from hunters and anglers goes towards what they say it does . Things that we greatly benefit all game like research efforts, population censuses ,hiring more COs, educating the public about hunting.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Given that everyone has a small game licence,

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Why is it a given that everyone has a small games license?
That in no way is correct.

Is it possible to hold a hunting licence without small game? I could be wrong.

Regardless, we have to pay through the nose for a small game licence, yet there is no small game management to speak of.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Is it possible to hold a hunting licence without small game? I could be wrong.

Regardless, we have to pay through the nose for a small game licence, yet there is no small game management to speak of.

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Yes it is. I do it most years in that I have license for deer, but no small game.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Yes it is. I do it most years in that I have license for deer, but no small game.

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Maybe I am wrong but I don't think you can get a deer license without a small game license.....

No where in the regs does it require you to have a small game lic to hunt deer (in fact is says you cannot hunt deer with a small game lic). It only requires you to have a valid outdoors card to get your bear/deer/elk/moose lic and seal.

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Originally Posted by fratri

Maybe I am wrong but I don't think you can get a deer license without a small game license.....

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Incorrect. I did it again this year. Away working so didn't bother getting my smallgame (as most years this past few) But I managed a few days for deer. And applied earlier for the anterless without the smallgame.

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Originally Posted by skeeter1

No where in the regs does it require you to have a small game lic to hunt deer (in fact is says you cannot hunt deer with a small game lic). It only requires you to have a valid outdoors card to get your bear/deer/elk/moose lic and seal.

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That's what I always thought,too. Several of our camp members only buy a license for Moose and Deer every year without ever hunting small game. I think we need a small game license to buy a Migratory Bird license,though,don't we?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That's what I always thought,too. Several of our camp members only buy a license for Moose and Deer every year without ever hunting small game. I think we need a small game license to buy a Migratory Bird license,though,don't we?

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You do not require it to purchase one, but you require it if you want to hunt migratory birds. Some stamp collectors buy them every year and do not hunt.