The Mailloux Affair

“Trudeau says Canadiens' selection of Logan Mailloux shows 'lack of judgment'”
From what I’ve been able to follow, Mailloux has been tried and punished for his lack of youthful short sightedness. He has gone on to apologize for what he did. Where does understanding and forgiveness begin. It would seem he at least deserves some opportunity to demonstrate he has amended his ways, and should be given a change at a productive role within societies. I don’t say as a Montreal Canadian fan, Mr. Trudeau doesn’t have his right to his own personal view of the Malloux’s. affair. However, as this country’s Prime Minister, much that he well may have thought, by giving voice to it, shows an astounding amount of poor judgment. He might just as well lock the kid up in prison and thrown away the key.. . .


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Ontario native Mailloux was charged and fined in Sweden last year after sharing a picture of himself and a young woman engaging in a sexual act. Mailloux has admitted to sharing the photo and said he “deeply regrets” doing so.

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Yet the Village Idiot 'apologized' to the lady he groped with a 'we experienced it differently" excuse and it was all OK then.

I guess Mailloux family didnt have enough money to make it go away!!!! Right JT

It’s all part of Trudeau’s “ inclusive “ society is it not?
The kid obviously made a mistake. How old was he, 17,18? How many of us have not made a mistake at that age? We know Trudeau has done MUCH worse and look where he ended up. He is the worse kind of hypocrite!


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Hilarious THIS guy has the gull to make a statement on a topic like this. I'm deeply disappointed he's remained PM, With scandal after scandal, Involving inappropriate touching and shady dealings....lol I hope the Habs make a statement calling out this clown

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

“Trudeau says Canadiens' selection of Logan Mailloux shows 'lack of judgment'”
From what I’ve been able to follow, Mailloux has been tried and punished for his lack of youthful short sightedness. He has gone on to apologize for what he did. Where does understanding and forgiveness begin. It would seem he at least deserves some opportunity to demonstrate he has amended his ways, and should be given a change at a productive role within societies. I don’t say as a Montreal Canadian fan, Mr. Trudeau doesn’t have his right to his own personal view of the Malloux’s. affair. However, as this country’s Prime Minister, much that he well may have thought, by giving voice to it, shows an astounding amount of poor judgment. He might just as well lock the kid up in prison and thrown away the key.. . .


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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I wonder if you would feel the same if the victim was related to you?

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

“Trudeau says Canadiens' selection of Logan Mailloux shows 'lack of judgment'”
From what I’ve been able to follow, Mailloux has been tried and punished for his lack of youthful short sightedness. He has gone on to apologize for what he did. Where does understanding and forgiveness begin. It would seem he at least deserves some opportunity to demonstrate he has amended his ways, and should be given a change at a productive role within societies. I don’t say as a Montreal Canadian fan, Mr. Trudeau doesn’t have his right to his own personal view of the Malloux’s. affair. However, as this country’s Prime Minister, much that he well may have thought, by giving voice to it, shows an astounding amount of poor judgment. He might just as well lock the kid up in prison and thrown away the key.. . .


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Canadians' selection of Turdea shows lack of judgement ... in his youth he was a sexist, and continues to show less regard for women. He also does not obey the law. So, I'm not sure I'd be taking this kind of ethical advice from Turdeau .... lol.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I wonder if you would feel the same if the victim was related to you?

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That is a very good question Gilroy. I'm not sure how it would make much difference, my two daughters were raised to exercise their brains not to put themselves in such a position of compromise. The issue is not my daughter, and the victim hear is not the woman who placed herself in such a position of compromise. The victim is a young man who for want of maturity did something incredibly short sighted, for which the leader of our country has set him on a course, where he will be paying for his youthful folly for the rest of his life. Of course, our Prime Minister is the first to boast to Canadians that he has their back. This kid could have used a bit of back support, but the PM's mouthing off has driven a knife in this kid's back. You would have thought by now that he might have figured out that words can kill just as effectively as bullets.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

“Trudeau says Canadiens' selection of Logan Mailloux shows 'lack of judgment'”
From what I’ve been able to follow, Mailloux has been tried and punished for his lack of youthful short sightedness. He has gone on to apologize for what he did. Where does understanding and forgiveness begin. It would seem he at least deserves some opportunity to demonstrate he has amended his ways, and should be given a change at a productive role within societies. I don’t say as a Montreal Canadian fan, Mr. Trudeau doesn’t have his right to his own personal view of the Malloux’s. affair. However, as this country’s Prime Minister, much that he well may have thought, by giving voice to it, shows an astounding amount of poor judgment. He might just as well lock the kid up in prison and thrown away the key.. . .


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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You really need to do some research, Mailloux was available for the draft but asked that he not be drafted because he did not show the maturity needed to be drafted. Here is the actual statement from the young man. The Habs did not respect the young mans choice nor the victim, this person wanted time to gain maturity and delay the draft as a way of atoning and the Habs did not care.

“Being drafted into the NHL is an honour and a privilege that no one takes lightly. The NHL Draft should be one of the most exciting landmark moments in a player’s career, and given the circumstances I don’t feel I have demonstrated strong enough maturity or character to earn that privilege in the 2021 Draft. If I were to ever have the honour of being selected I would want a fanbase to be proud to welcome me to their organization. I know it will take time for society to build back the trust I have lost, and that is why I think it is best that I renounce myself from the 2021 NHL Draft and ask that no one select me this upcoming weekend. I feel that this would allow me the opportunity to demonstrate an adequate level of maturity and character next season with the London Knights in the OHL and provide all the NHL teams the opportunity to reassess my character towards the 2022 NHL Draft.”

So yes, the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

That is a very good question Gilroy. I'm not sure how it would make much difference, my two daughters were raised to exercise their brains not to put themselves in such a position of compromise. The issue is not my daughter, and the victim hear is not the woman who placed herself in such a position of compromise. The victim is a young man who for want of maturity did something incredibly short sighted, for which the leader of our country has set him on a course, where he will be paying for his youthful folly for the rest of his life. Of course, our Prime Minister is the first to boast to Canadians that he has their back. This kid could have used a bit of back support, but the PM's mouthing off has driven a knife in this kid's back. You would have thought by now that he might have figured out that words can kill just as effectively as bullets.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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In the course of my life I have meet plenty of people who have insulted, embarrassed, compromised other folk's and the MAGIC solution for them is to apologize and they simply think that's good and go right on with their stupid behavior. I try not to behave like that and don't go apologizing all over the place. With today's technology and LONG MEMORY life these types of screw up's have a very long shelf life for both victim and perpetrator so I guess he has done as much harm to himself as the victim.

I could care less for the guy,or the PMs- remark.

I am wondering hovewer, where in this case is the right of a convicted for NOT being discriminated against after he got the judgement against him/get the penance ,and the thing is over?

As far i know ,it is against the law in Canada to discriminate against anyone convicted. To discriminate against in many many fields in daily life(employment being one of them)
Clearly-he IS discriminated against............(unless they tried him as ,and treat him like a sex offender-which would be really weird)


He could pursue a legal path to deal with this issue,if he wants to.

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Originally Posted by Fox

You really need to do some research, Mailloux was available for the draft but asked that he not be drafted because he did not show the maturity needed to be drafted. Here is the actual statement from the young man. The Habs did not respect the young mans choice nor the victim, this person wanted time to gain maturity and delay the draft as a way of atoning and the Habs did not care.

“Being drafted into the NHL is an honour and a privilege that no one takes lightly. The NHL Draft should be one of the most exciting landmark moments in a player’s career, and given the circumstances I don’t feel I have demonstrated strong enough maturity or character to earn that privilege in the 2021 Draft. If I were to ever have the honour of being selected I would want a fanbase to be proud to welcome me to their organization. I know it will take time for society to build back the trust I have lost, and that is why I think it is best that I renounce myself from the 2021 NHL Draft and ask that no one select me this upcoming weekend. I feel that this would allow me the opportunity to demonstrate an adequate level of maturity and character next season with the London Knights in the OHL and provide all the NHL teams the opportunity to reassess my character towards the 2022 NHL Draft.”

So yes, the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful.

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“So yes, the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful.” - Perhaps!

Fox, that was a great statement the kid made, at least he understand the depth of the blunder he made. It makes him appears incredibly vulnerable. I suspect, however, it was not likely to earn him much of a pass from many of the NHL teams looking for his caliber of talent. If not the Canadiens, he was likely to be snapped up by some other team. I have to wonder what or Prime Minister might of sad if that should have happen . I suspect nothing, which is what he should have said when the Canadiens exercised their option. As I said before TJ is entitle to his personal opinion of what the Canadiens did, he did not have to share it on the world stage. That’s what I found to be very on becoming. When he open his mouth for the world to hear, he was not just an other Canadien’s fan, mumbling “the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful,” he was our Prime Minister.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

“So yes, the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful.” - Perhaps!

Fox, that was a great statement the kid made, at least he understand the depth of the blunder he made. It makes him appears incredibly vulnerable. I suspect, however, it was not likely to earn him much of a pass from many of the NHL teams looking for his caliber of talent. If not the Canadiens, he was likely to be snapped up by some other team. I have to wonder what or Prime Minister might of sad if that should have happen . I suspect nothing, which is what he should have said when the Canadiens exercised their option. As I said before TJ is entitle to his personal opinion of what the Canadiens did, he did not have to share it on the world stage. That’s what I found to be very on becoming. When he open his mouth for the world to hear, he was not just an other Canadien’s fan, mumbling “the habs choice was idiotic and disrespectful,” he was our Prime Minister.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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Do not act like he should have been picked though. He had photos of a girl in the nude and distributed them without permission.

Yes this is hypocritical of the PM but what the PM said about the pick was accurate.

God help us. We'll all be out of jobs if people start looking at the stupid things we did when we were kids ...

People are so quick to judge ... hey, if you are casting a stone ... let's have all your dirty laundry displayed for the world to see.

I'd bet my left nut that ALL of us have some embarrassing thing they'd be mortified if the world was able to see it and judge us on!
Stop acting like your perfect, because we know behind your computer screen ... you're no different.

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Originally Posted by Fox

D. He had photos of a girl in the nude and distributed them without permission.

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I would search first,to see what really happened ,before making statements.................

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Originally Posted by Fox

Do not act like he should have been picked though. He had photos of a girl in the nude and distributed them without permission.

Yes this is hypocritical of the PM but what the PM said about the pick was accurate.

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Accurate or not, as far as I’m concern as our Prime Minister, in that office he speaks for all Canadians, as such he had no business to say what he did.. He placed the actions of this young man and that of the Montreal Canadiens Organization on trial. As such they have been condemned by the highest officer in this land. What he did was a shameful affront to exercising any measure of sound judgment and the rule of law..

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy

In the course of my life I have meet plenty of people who have insulted, embarrassed, compromised other folk's and the MAGIC solution for them is to apologize and they simply think that's good and go right on with their stupid behavior. I try not to behave like that and don't go apologizing all over the place. With today's technology and LONG MEMORY life these types of screw up's have a very long shelf life for both victim and perpetrator so I guess he has done as much harm to himself as the victim.

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I take it your referring to the likes of Trudeau, the groper? Apologizing all over the place.

https://youtu.be/Rs9b87tSl9M

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[QUOTE=Gun Nut;1167204]…the victim hear is not the woman who placed herself in such a position of compromise. The victim is a young man who for want of maturity did something incredibly short sighted, …

He is the victim? Sweet Jesus, that has to be the most bizarre thing I’ve seen written here. He’s the victim? That ends the discussion right there.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

…the victim hear is not the woman who placed herself in such a position of compromise. The victim is a young man who for want of maturity did something incredibly short sighted, …

He is the victim? Sweet Jesus, that has to be the most bizarre thing I’ve seen written here. He’s the victim? That ends the discussion right there.

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Well you'd be an expert on who's a victim but i think he's holding out to be a MapleLeaf and if that doesn't work out for him, meh there's always pornhub.

Willie, Willie, Willie, keep trying.
Actually becoming a Maple Leaf would be a life long punishment for him. He’d never see a Stanley Cup that’s for sure.

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

Willie, Willie, Willie, keep trying.
Actually becoming a Maple Leaf would be a life long punishment for him. He’d never see a Stanley Cup that’s for sure.

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I thought he was in it for the puck bunnies.

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Originally Posted by gbk

I would search first,to see what really happened ,before making statements.................

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My understanding was that it was basically a shot of the back of her head while she was going down on him.The big problem was when he shared the picture and most importantly her personal info like her name. I also heard that he did pay a fine in Sweden for his act but I'm not positive about that one.

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Originally Posted by smitty55

My understanding was that it was basically a shot of the back of her head while she was going down on him.The big problem was when he shared the picture and most importantly her personal info like her name. I also heard that he did pay a fine in Sweden for his act but I'm not positive about that one.

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X2 Smitty.
That is what i could find out also.

lets get the facts shall we...

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Mailloux shared the photo in the SK Lejon team group chat on SnapChat during a bus ride to a road game. According to the investigation, the victim was not identified in the photo. A witness interviewed said in the investigation that the photo only made visible “the hair of the girl … you saw that it was a girl, and you glimpsed bra straps,” according to the report.

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But when Mailloux shared the photo to SK Lejon teammates, according to the report, he also sent a screenshot of the victim’s online profile, which identified her to teammates by displaying her photo, first name and age.

Word quickly spread. The victim soon confronted Mailloux and his teammates, who claimed to delete the photo, according to the investigation. The offense was reported to police and the victim’s attorney filed a claim asking the Swedish prosecutor to order Mailloux to pay 7,000 Swedish krona (~$800 U.S. Dollars) for “offensive photography” and 30,000 Swedish krona (~$3,500 U.S. Dollars) for defamation. In Sweden, part of the fine for a crime such as this one is payable to the victim.

Mailloux was not arrested by Swedish Polisen. Mailloux was ultimately charged with both defamation and “Kränkande fotografering,” or offensive photography, and ordered to pay 14,300 Swedish krona, approximately $1,650 U.S. Dollars, by way of a criminal injunction that relieved the matter from the court system. Offensive photography became illegal in Sweden in 2013, banning secretly photographing or filming someone in a private place. The penalty is a fine or a maximum of up to two years in Sweden.

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However, Mailloux also told investigators in the report: “Logan said he had met [the victim] after this [incident] and that she told him that she wanted to ruin his career. Logan explained that the NHL Draft is [on the] way and that she knows this and that it is sensitive.”

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"Mailloux said he has sought biweekly counseling with a licensed psychologist since returning from Sweden. A"]Mailloux said he has sought biweekly counseling with a licensed psychologist since returning from Sweden.

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The story: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/nhl-dra...rge-in-sweden/

As a young man he does something stupid, admits to it, is contrite, apologizes to the young lady, the prosecutors order him to pay the fines, he does. Gets counseling. But worst of all..His mother found out.

She says he embarrassed her and wants to ruin his career...she succeeds.

Same article…

“According to the report, the victim claimed Mailloux told her he sent the photo to his teammates as “a trophy” and that he did it because of “pressure from the guys.”

The victim also said in the investigation that the photo was damaging because she was “no longer anonymous,” and that even if players on SK Lejon deleted the image as they said, the incident would not “stay” within the team as Mailloux and his teammates suggested to her. She said it damaged her reputation as gossip filtered out to others in town.”

Interesting that the article lists her as “the victim” twice. But GN says Mailloux is the victim.

Once again, an example of the term gaslighting.

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

Once again, an example of the term gaslighting.

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I don't think you're using the term "gaslighting" properly in the context of the article...or situation.

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Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality.

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The article doesn't try to sway any bias or opinion...it's actually a pretty good piece of journalism.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I don't think you're using the term "gaslighting" properly in the context of the article...or situation.



The article doesn't try to sway any bias or opinion...it's actually a pretty good piece of journalism.

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Not the article, GunNut’s claims that Mailloux is the victim in this.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Accurate or not, as far as I’m concern as our Prime Minister, in that office he speaks for all Canadians, as such he had no business to say what he did.. He placed the actions of this young man and that of the Montreal Canadiens Organization on trial. As such they have been condemned by the highest officer in this land. What he did was a shameful affront to exercising any measure of sound judgment and the rule of law..

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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Totally agreed. This guilty by social platforms is total BS. Let the courts decide what is right and wrong.
And, Turdeau is a moron ... he has no right to speak. He is a filthy human being, and definitely not where we
should be looking for moral standards.

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

Not the article, GunNut’s claims that Mailloux is the victim in this.

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That's NOT gaslighting either...

He is a victim...he's this week focus of the 'cancel culture' who will do all they can to destroy this young mans future for a youthful indiscretion which he since took ownership of and has been punished for.

Thank god there was NO social media when I played Jr A hockey in the 90’s lol…this is whole thing is ridiculous. Btw, Trudeau is a complete idiot for even commenting of this!!


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Originally Posted by MarkB

Totally agreed. This guilty by social platforms is total BS. Let the courts decide what is right and wrong.

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Already decided through the legal system in Sweden.
From the article MP posted, Mailloux didn’t dispute the facts in the investigation. The matter was removed from the courts and penalties of fines was used to settle the matter. So he admitted his guilt.

He’s now back in Canada, and perhaps dating someone’s daughter. I hope it isn’t anyone on here.

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

He’s now back in Canada, and perhaps dating someone’s daughter. I hope it isn’t anyone on here.

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Probably the safest guy for someone's daughter to date now....he'll never do anything like that again !!!

What does the Village Idiot call it when he gets caught..oh yea.."A learning experience".

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Probably the safest guy for someone's daughter to date now....he'll never do anything like that again !!!

What does the Village Idiot call it when he gets caught..oh yea.."A learning experience".

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No kidding MikePal!! Village Idiot for sure! Does he not have more pressing issues too deal/comment on.?!?


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Originally Posted by Gregger17

Does he not have more pressing issues too deal/comment on.?!?

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Virtual Signalling is a 24/7 facade :)

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Originally Posted by Gregger17

No kidding MikePal!! Village Idiot for sure! Does he not have more pressing issues too deal/comment on.?!?


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Yes he does, winning the next election. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Yes he does, winning the next election. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

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Lmao cause the cbc's life depends on it.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Yes he does, winning the next election. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

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Maybe…. better get your Kool-Ade stand set up Gilly!!!!!

https://ipolitics.ca/2021/07/28/cons...ls-poll-shows/

The Glass House Prime Minister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHLCeNk0p3E&list=UU9jipu23ffJC0hYrX7Y8p_A& index=1

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Maybe…. better get your Kool-Ade stand set up Gilly!!!!!

https://ipolitics.ca/2021/07/28/cons...ls-poll-shows/

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Considering your poll shows that the Liberals are ahead, maybe you have been drinking to much. LOL

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Considering your poll shows that the Liberals are ahead, maybe you have been drinking to much. LOL

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A Liberal backed "poll" claiming the Liberals are ahead......gee,there's a revelation. LOL

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Originally Posted by WillieBeno

Lmao cause the cbc's life depends on it.

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... well with the election coming and COVID according to the Libs they are hard pressed and need even more than their $100,000,000+ PER MONTH
https://www.torynow.com/stream/xf6eW...r-CBC-bailout/

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

A Liberal backed "poll" claiming the Liberals are ahead......gee,there's a revelation. LOL

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... well the poll I saw yesterday said 9% undecided and
"When asking all voters if a federal election was held today, which party they would vote for, 29% said they would vote for the Conservative Party and 31% said they would vote liberal. "

and even the CBC says the gap is narrowing https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec...racker/canada/

perhaps he won't call an election and will just have to rely on the NDP parasitism . Calling an early election during COVID should cost him atleast a few points and the longer he waits the more information gets out on his behaviour, lies, seems like a new ethics investigation starting up... probably block that one too though.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

"When asking all voters if a federal election was held today, which party they would vote for, 29% said they would vote for the Conservative Party and 31% said they would vote liberal. "

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The Cons are stagnant but what is telling... the Libs have given up that polled 10 point lead they had to the NDP...

Another Liberal minority government in coalition will the NDP .... Jagmeet Singh will hold all the power again, should be fun.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The Cons are stagnant but what is telling... the Libs have given up that polled 10 point lead they had to the NDP...

Another Liberal minority government in coalition will the NDP .... Jagmeet Singh will hold all the power again, should be fun.

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Yep...Liberal and NDP "forward"....

- lies on budgets, ethics, firearms...
- waste billions in debt, lost projects, used old jets, pipelines projects etc.
- incompetence, Energy East, COVID etc.
... well you get the idea, for Canada and its future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv_B4e8JcAQ



Hmmmm... https://www.mvcr.cz/mvcren/article/n...-interior.aspx

Well you guys have been WRONG about the last two elections.....just sayin.

Probably when Derek SLOAN starts his new party people will realize how bad it can get on the Con side and chose Liberty.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well you guys have been WRONG about the last two elections.....just sayin.

Probably when Derek SLOAN starts his new party people will realize how bad it can get on the Con side and chose Liberty.

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Yep.... and we have had:

• the worst PM in Canadian history with repeated ethics violation, refusal to answer questions etc. oh and an international joke,
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z47HvBDtP4
• a doubling of the debt,
• Finance Minister and chief advisor scandals and resignations
• increase in gang violence, 1/4 amount spent on gangs but estimated 15 to 20X that amount to be spent to attack the law abiding
• essentially a closed and secretive government based on lies and coverups, (Secrecy act on OIC, suing house speaker, refusal to answer questions...)
• billions on pipelines wasted and needed pipelines blocked,
• COVID handling, only good part was that they failed to get the vaccine they wanted,
• purchase of 20+ used jets that they plan to use 8 of,
• treatment of women and vets, aid to terrorists and reduced sentence on criminals
• Scandals on WE and SNC that resulted in an investigation the PMO used privilege to block
• lies about budgets, ethics, firearms, SNC, Jody W.R., and a long long list... essentially if Trudeau was talkin he Just Lied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ydFuNZXI8&feature=player_embedded

..... etc
It is already the worst in Canadian history but looking at the direction I guess the Lib can get much worse.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex...e-any-question


So that leaves the Canadian voter as an ideologue, an accomplice or ignorant... the last would explain the C-10 and C-36 and increased CBC spending and saying they need more.... working hard to tell you Lib think not facts... the CBC (modelling itself after the CCTV)

“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell

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Yep.... and we have had:

• the worst PM in Canadian history with repeated ethics violation, refusal to answer questions etc. oh and an international joke,
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z47HvBDtP4
• a doubling of the debt,
• Finance Minister and chief advisor scandals and resignations
• increase in gang violence, 1/4 amount spent on gangs but estimated 15 to 20X that amount to be spent to attack the law abiding
• essentially a closed and secretive government based on lies and coverups, (Secrecy act on OIC, suing house speaker, refusal to answer questions...)
• billions on pipelines wasted and needed pipelines blocked,
• COVID handling, only good part was that they failed to get the vaccine they wanted,
• purchase of 20+ used jets that they plan to use 8 of,
• treatment of women and vets, aid to terrorists and reduced sentence on criminals
• Scandals on WE and SNC that resulted in an investigation the PMO used privilege to block
• lies about budgets, ethics, firearms, SNC, Jody W.R., and a long long list... essentially if Trudeau was talkin he Just Lied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ydFuNZXI8&feature=player_embedded

..... etc
It is already the worst in Canadian history but looking at the direction I guess the Lib can get much worse.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex...e-any-question


So that leaves the Canadian voter as an ideologue, an accomplice or ignorant... the last would explain the C-10 and C-36 and increased CBC spending and saying they need more.... working hard to tell you Lib think not facts... the CBC (modelling itself after the CCTV)

“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell

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Even if half of it was true the Conservatives cannot even come up with a viable alternative. Very sad.

When Derek Sloan announces his policies and platform the voters across Canada will run a mile from the Conservatives party because that is who they will associate him with, another election win for Justin.

The above comment just shows how delusional some people are. Keep trying cheers.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Even if half of it was true the Conservatives cannot even come up with a viable alternative. Very sad.

When Derek Sloan announces his policies and platform the voters across Canada will run a mile from the Conservatives party because that is who they will associate him with, another election win for Justin.

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The issue isn't that the Conservatives and their leader.... what is sad is the acceptance of the corruption, lies, coverups, waste etc. and even approval of it. Very reminiscent of what we have seen and do see in dictatorships and tyrant run countries it where the lefts narcissism is most important to them .... as for anyone that cares about facts, accountability, openness, responsibility, integrity, respect... those words the Libs say but never seem to actually understand .... well the #WorstPMEver must go or Canada is f***** even more than it already is given the damage the Libs have done. Your acceptance of the reality and disdain for change beneficial to Canada's future, that is sad. There are some that just won't examine reality and morals and philosophy etc. because they only want the world they believe in, not the world that actually is. A mind is a terrible thing to waste... especially in a PM https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FluffyEnvi...restricted.gif

We see these fit the current "leadership" of the Libs and their supporters fit the 2nd especially

“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ” - George Orwell

The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it - George Orwell


History has shown what happens to countries and civilizations and the reasons for failures.... the left says ... the causes destroyed 100% of the time, but we are smarter (no evidence for this) let's try it again and see if we can make it work this time.

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No use debating with a Lib... they can't stay on topic and facts confuse them but for those that actually care about facts and reality. Made and ships from China but hey ... :-)
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Ah... he brought up Trump and 1 MP and totally ignored facts.... just as expected. Sad but predictable, the Lib supporter is OK with lies, coverups, seizing the law abiding's property, censorship, power grabs, ethics violations, insults and poor treatment of minorities and vets and all of what we have seen Justlied Trudeau do. I wonder if they make a T-shirt with that on it? If there are any screen printers on here there is probably a good market for T-shirts that say #worstPMEver and a list of lies, ethics violations, etc.


and for those that are depressed about the lies and unethical behaviour being ahead in the polls. We know how Justlied likes to dress up, well here is the new picture of him on his way to an animal shelter fund raiser.
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'Very reminiscent of what we have seen and do see in dictatorships and tyrant run countries it where the lefts narcissism is most important to them"

So very true fit's exactly the description of Donald Trump and Republicans who are equated in Canadian's mind's as bird's of the same feather. Canadians see the kindness of Joe Biden and equate him with the kindness of Justin Trudeau, winning combinations both.
I think we will stick with the leaders that actually work and stay away from folk's who want to divide society and cause dissention like Derek Sloan and company.