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Good for her sending that in.
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Logic and sound reasoning never got in the way of a Politician attempting to social engineer the populous :)
.....and make some extra retirement cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
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One person writing on behalf of a very small portion of health care workers.
Hardly representative of the workforce
Would you prefer they just sat back and did nothing like the government wants?Quote:
Originally Posted by C.A. in TO
Personally, I would prefer they get vaccinated like the vast majority of their peers (self included)Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
Under health and safety regulations,employers can enact any health and safety rules they deem necessary to ensure a safe work environment. If that includes vaccinations for employees,oh,well. No one is holding anyone down and stickin' them. The choice is always up to the employee. If they don't want to comply,they'll need to find employment elsewhere.
It's a single voice that is absolutely correct. Because she is receiving huge support for her letter, should tell you she is not wrong. When up to 40% of Health care workers in some settings don't support mandatory vaccinations, someone should be asking why that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.A. in TO
But it's not about a safe work environment...they have worked through the worst of a pandemic for the most part of two years safely. And now, with 80% vaccinated, the greatest threat to their safety doesn't exist anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The PPE they wear as part of their job and have worn from the beginning still protects them from patients who are admitted with the virus as it always has. Forcing 100% to be vaccinated is redundant as the majority of their co-workers are vaccinated and are not a threat to each other (herd immunity). A fully vaccinated person shouldn't get or spread the virus so an unvaccinated person is no threat to them or to themselves.
This isn't about safety ...it's about social engineering compliance through coercion, threats to peoples lively hood and ostracization of people who choose, as is their right, not to comply.
I find it amazing how a sanctimonious mob is willing to fire a co-worker because they have chosen not to get the vaccination,yet cherish the fact that we live in a Free society. Smacks of hypocrisy don't it. :)
Well said Mike ^^^^^^^^^
It's not a small portion at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.A. in TO
Well it could easily be said a large proportion disagree.
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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
Why didn’t they all get covid before the vaccine came out. I guess they are all going to get it if the last 15% don’t get the vaccine.
If they fire all the anti vaccine people will the hospital be self serve?
Are they firing them ? Or are they saying no I quitQuote:
Originally Posted by glen
employment minister is saying if you quit your job refusing to get vaccine no EI for you
You never quit a job. You let them fire you and then you sue.
Employment law 101.
It's not that they disagree so much as it is they have been scared witless and coerced into believing they have to. The fact that so many health care workers disagree with being forced says all you need to know, except for the sheep like you that gladly give up their guaranteed freedoms and rights to bow down to corrupt and power mad bureaucrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
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Originally Posted by greatwhite
Is that the science that says your fully-vaccinated and you still have to wear a mask? Or is the science that says, your fully-vaccinated but need yearly booster shots?...lmao
Smitty 55 hit the nail on the head
So what does the science say ?Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/kids-...risk-1.6191067
https://torontosun.com/news/provinci...heart-problems
Or evidence suggests?
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According to today's CTVNews report,the province plans to end all Covid protocols including masking and passports by March 2022. All thee anti-vaxers need to do is hang around until then and all the arguments will be moot. No doubt,the conspiracy theorists and chicken littles will find something else to occupy their minds.
Yaa ok! You are kinda naive, if you think there will be no attempts to keep the passports indefinitely in the name of safety, of course!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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I agree ... people should have a right to choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I too am concerned by what seems to be an autocratic leadership method just stating/forcing people to do things. It is not democracy at all.
If getting the vaccine is the right thing to do, then convince people via discussion and education.
I personally think getting the vaccine is the right choice ... but that's just to state my opinion on the matter. It does not trump the points I make above.
If you want to know why I think the vaccine is the right choice ... that's another discussion (which is happening on other threads).
Why is 'the science' completely different in Scandinavian countries, which have zero restrictions and things are back to normal?Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Have you seen Swedish women..their science is definitely way different HaHa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
This is a dangerous precedent. To just point to the current laws and say "oh well" is no different than shrugging one's shoulders during slavery, Jim Crow laws, Holocaust, etc. These things were legal at the time, but that didn't make them just.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The whole "private companies can do whatever they want" thing is out of touch, especially in an era where many private companies pose more of a threat to us than the government does. Mass censorship and banning of people -- including a duly elected sitting president -- from the new public square (twitter, facebook, youtube, etc.) are huge social engineering problems.
The solution to just seek employment elsewhere is bogus because this is not a purely economic problem (and there is no such thing as pure economics anyways...economics is part of moral philosophy as I mentioned in the Capitalism thread). Everyone is coerced and pressured into doing something that doesn't even make sense in the first place. It's all empty political theatre.
Who's to say a company can't demand forced castration in order to thwart unwanted sexual advances towards an increasing female workforce? Or roll out a one child policy for staff? Or refuse service based on sexual orientation? Or demand additional private health information that does not pertain to the job? Or fire you based on your social credit score? Or restrict your movement based on bogus 'green' initiatives and personal CO2 emissions? And not just one weird company, but all of them? There won't be anywhere left to work.
Yes. And it's not just those in healthcare. Police, military, firefighters, teachers, trades...there are many who oppose the ridiculous draconian measures for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Look at the huge numbers at all the various marches and protests...and those are just the ones who aren't afraid of being visible and 'picking a side'. Many will confide to you in private that they strongly disagree but don't know what else to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Wait for the restrictions as we approach 2030 involving Zero emissions: No access to parking lots at Hospitals, Schools, no Drive-In theatres, or long term parking at the Airport unless you have an E-Car ...sound ridiculous ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
This Pandemic has shown us, the 'Zealots' know no bounds. HaHa.
One thing for sure, it's not the same science that all those front line health care workers that are refusing the vax are using. Somehow he thinks he knows more than them lol. And as usual he never posts any facts to back up his silly retorts.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Funny all the Nurses I know had the vaccine long time ago.
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Originally Posted by trimmer21
Where does anti-vaxxers come from?.Medical privacy and freedom of choice. We do live in a democracy.
It's should be said the reign of terror from anti-freedom, communist loving criminals is coming to an end.
Then there is the Amish.
Or just reality ?
https://youtu.be/O1DgWYdukZU
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What's really sort of funny or lame is that you still never do any research. Only 17,000 health care workers in Quebec have refused it, half of them front line. Obviously they are quite well aware of all the side effects happening from the jabs. Took me 5 seconds to find this, even better it comes from your favorite media channel so you know it's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...nded-1.6191433
We do live in a democracy. The last time our democracy was given a chance to vote there was an anti-vaxx, anti-mask, anti-lockdown option. 95% of those who cast ballots chose parties other than Mad Max's merry band of gravel throwers.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
The people have chosen.
Choose wiselyQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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Only 20% of all registered voters voted for the liberal party. The people have chosen, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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5% voted for the PPC. 95% voted for other parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by NJohnson
Over 9 out of 10 voters chose parties that are not anti-vaxx and anti-lockdown. The people have spoken.
Attachment 42457Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Fitting..
Why do you continue to keep thinking that all 'anitis' are Conservatives? It was proven time and again that the people at the rallies and protests against the lockdowns cross all political parties. They're business people, students, health care professionals that are against lockdowns and mandate restrictions. In fact, as I posted earlier, 40 % at one rally were middle aged white women that voted Liberal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Yea 67% of people didn't vote Liberal...Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Regardless of previous party affiliation COVID deniers had the option to support a party that was opposed to vaccine mandates and lockdowns. It's poor showing (5% of votes cast) and current vaccination rates at over 80% point confirm that anti-vaxxers and COVID deniers are an irrelevant minority in Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Think it is irrelevant Badenoch? Have a look at the RCMP letter among many others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
No One Can Stop What Is Coming and certainly not the opinion of a lonely individual such as you.....lol
Still not grasping the difference between an anti vaxxer and the people who do not support the mandates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
He knows the difference. His mandate and agenda is to divide people into two camps and create chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
United We Stand!
My thoughtsQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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But why, did George Soros just give up, suddenly this reign of terror is cancelled just like that??Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I'm not trying to poke fun here ... I'm just questioning if there was this big organized campaign to control the world,
why would they all of a sudden say all rules are going out the window in a few months, and we'll be back to normal?
Did the government suddenly have a change of heart?
Probably because once this hits everyone the real threat will be gone . Will eventually just become a common cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
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Possibly because they have realized there's to many people like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
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I don't think the government would give up that easy guys ... doesn't gel.
We have only 12% of the adults in Ontario that haven't received the vaccine ... government DEFINETLY wouldn't be scared of that.
Perhaps that is a clue there was no conspiracy to begin with?
Or maybe Doug Ford is a Freedom Fighter too?
Or maybe they see whats happening elsewhere. Don't think they're scared of this happening...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
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15 days to flatten the curve. Still blame a bat from a wet market down the street from Wuhan lab?...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
They don't care ... we are too nice here in Ontario, we bend over all the time and take it ... I mean look at our goof of a prime minister andQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
you'll know how many sheeps there are ... just throw them a few $$ a month (CERB), and you get what you want.
Trust me ... this has nothing to do with the government bending.