Rapid Test Hysteria

Watching CTV news at noon and they have a clip showing a line up for a Rapid Test in Ottawa...it was a couple of km's long. It started at 4:00 am. At 8:00, they were told the test didn't show up , so they gave them a bracelet and told them to come back later. So they did and stood in line again.

I don't get it..why are so many people willing to stand in line on a dark and cold Dec morning for 4-5 hrs. Is it just to get a kit to test for yourself. Or is it to prove you're not infected...is it now required instead of the QR code... ??

Very odd behavior....

Yeah maybe they all feel sick ? Or they are trying to make a living from selling them? why do we need so many tests ?

We are going on 3 years and I haven't been tested yet . It does seem strange to boot they all waited for nothing.







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Originally Posted by fishfood

We are going on 3 years and I haven't been tested yet .

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I went to a test centre way back when they first started testing, I was sick and had all the Covid symptoms. They wouldn't test me, because I couldn't tell them if I was in contact with someone who had tested positive and I hadn't been traveling.

I had a discussion with the Dr. doing the questions and it soon became apparent that the whole testing exercise was nothing to do with your health, but simply a way to collect data. That is also when I realized that we were being had :)

I suspect that is what this latest fiasco is all about...just a way for health Ontario to collect data at the expense of people who are gullible enough to stand in the cold for 5 hrs to provide them with it. ..

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I had a discussion with the Dr. doing the questions and it soon became apparent that the whole testing exercise was nothing to do with your health, but simply a way to collect data. That is also when I realized that we were being had :)

I suspect that is what this latest fiasco is all about...just a way for health Ontario to collect data at the expense of people who are gullible enough to stand in the cold for 5 hrs to provide them with it. ..

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Bingo, you win.

The vast majority of people do not agree with your ideas about conspiracy and corruption being the basis of the whole pandemic.
I have a question for you and I am not trolling. I am truly curious.
What is it that makes you guys recognize this charade while the majority does not?
What is going on in your brain that is not happening in the vast majority of other people?
Professional health care workers almost overwhelmingly support the mainstream story of the pandemic. These people have at least average intelligence, and with out doubt, more knowledge about health issues than you and I. The rest of the population also accepts the mainstream concepts about the pandemic.
What makes you guys special so that you see this situation and the rest of us don't?
You must have asked yourselves this question many, many times. What did you come up with?

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Originally Posted by justinmch

The vast majority of people do not agree with your ideas about conspiracy and corruption being the basis of the whole pandemic.
I have a question for you and I am not trolling. I am truly curious.
What is it that makes you guys recognize this charade while the majority does not?
What is going on in your brain that is not happening in the vast majority of other people?
Professional health care workers almost overwhelmingly support the mainstream story of the pandemic. These people have at least average intelligence, and with out doubt, more knowledge about health issues than you and I. The rest of the population also accepts the mainstream concepts about the pandemic.
What makes you guys special so that you see this situation and the rest of us don't?
You must have asked yourselves this question many, many times. What did you come up with?

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I POSTED THIS SUGGESTION ON YET ANOTHER OF MIKE'S VAST NUMBER OF CONSPIRACY THREADS.


Why are citizens not FREE to make their own choices about their health, their concern for loved one's, for their neighbors and friends.

If these citizens want to wait outside for a test or a test kit or what ever, what difference does it make to the rest of us.

What I am seeing by commentators on this forum is a kinda arrogance, they are smarter than scientists, smarter than Doctors and researchers. I think you should consider your fellow citizens to be just as smart as you.

Actually, I wasn't talking to you Gilroy. I really want to hear what Mike and the others have to say about this.

haha.

Yes why wait 5 hours for a test kit when you can make appt in a clinic and walk in and get tested right away.

The nuttiness to acquire rapid tests doesn't make any sense to me either. Tests should be provided to those who need them for work or school or those visiting vulnerable populations in retirement homes, long term care facilities, hospitals, etc. I have no interest in being tested unless required for travel or should I happen to show symptoms. Otherwise the only thing going up my nose is my finger.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I don't get it..why are so many people willing to stand in line on a dark and cold Dec morning for 4-5 hrs. Is it just to get a kit to test for yourself. Or is it to prove you're not infected...is it now required instead of the QR code... ??

Very odd behavior....

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The nuttiness to acquire rapid tests doesn't make any sense to me either.

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I agree. It doesn't matter which side of the debate you are on, why spend hours in line for a test kit that is known to give false results?

I know I’ve mentioned it before. But…I think the majority of people are getting the kits to test themselves prior to visiting family over the holidays. It is a peace of mind tool, whether it’s accurate or not. I doubt many will follow the new restrictions on family get togethers. To be clear, my assumption is that their desire to acquire the kits is not driven by fear, but by love and respect for those they wish to visit.

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Originally Posted by justinmch

The vast majority of people do not agree with your ideas about conspiracy and corruption being the basis of the whole pandemic.
I have a question for you and I am not trolling. I am truly curious.
What is it that makes you guys recognize this charade while the majority does not?
What is going on in your brain that is not happening in the vast majority of other people?
Professional health care workers almost overwhelmingly support the mainstream story of the pandemic. These people have at least average intelligence, and with out doubt, more knowledge about health issues than you and I. The rest of the population also accepts the mainstream concepts about the pandemic.
What makes you guys special so that you see this situation and the rest of us don't?
You must have asked yourselves this question many, many times. What did you come up with?

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Where did you get that idea? Let me guess, main stream media. There are many thousands of people in the health care field who disagree with your statement that has no facts to back it up.

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Originally Posted by justinmch

The vast majority of people do not agree with your ideas about conspiracy and corruption being the basis of the whole pandemic.
I have a question for you and I am not trolling. I am truly curious.
What is it that makes you guys recognize this charade while the majority does not?
What is going on in your brain that is not happening in the vast majority of other people?
Professional health care workers almost overwhelmingly support the mainstream story of the pandemic. These people have at least average intelligence, and with out doubt, more knowledge about health issues than you and I. The rest of the population also accepts the mainstream concepts about the pandemic.
What makes you guys special so that you see this situation and the rest of us don't?
You must have asked yourselves this question many, many times. What did you come up with?

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The world has always been that way since I've been in it.

1% Controls the World 4% are Sellout Puppets 9o% are Asleep 5% Know and are Trying to Wake up the 90% The 1 % Don't Want the 5% Waking up the 90%. We live in a controlled world. It is as simple as that. When you are a part of this elite force, keeping the public distracted is just the nature of the game. Nicola Tesla

In a world full of propaganda the truth will always be a conspiracy. Henry Hilldebrant.

The answer to your question is an elevated level of consciousness and a desire to solve the problem. What I mean is it's not like they're hiding all of it from you and when or if they do it's usually hidden in plain site. They've made their intentions clear, there's even books written about it for Pete's sake and most of the other stuff can be found on government websites, As for the rest of them they likely think there is something to gain or are complacent in their cognitive dissonance that they just can't be bothered. This didn't just happen overnight their plan has been in the making for a long while, we are just at the end stage of it. The only way to stop it is for all of us to wake up, stand up and tell them how it's going to be or submit and surrender which seems to be the course we're on.

Not all doctors and health care professionals are going along with this there are plenty of them that out spoken and have risked everything to bring you the truth but you won't hear about them in the MSM and the ignorant mock and ridicule them to no end. The ones going along with it are under threat of loosing their jobs, receive kickbacks and have failed to uphold their Oath.

I don't know that any one is special they're more than likely just paying attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omkec8glbc4&t=890s

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Originally Posted by justinmch

Actually, I wasn't talking to you Gilroy. I really want to hear what Mike and the others have to say about this.

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In general terms, there is always a split in society as to who is a follower and who questions what is going on.

What happened in the case of Covid, fear was used to perpetuate the myth that this virus was going to kill all of us. It was going to kill some...but nowhere near the lethality that the MSM and Politicians have led the public to believe.

To this day, after multiple variants and waves, the death toll from the virus is only .08% of the population. And most of them (93%) were in a demographic of 60+ year olds with pre-existing autoimmune and comorbidity issues. A full 63% of the deaths were in 80+ age group, many living in LTC facilities.

This pandemic has never been anywhere near the hype that it was built up to by the MSM from day one, and especially not a death threat to 99% of the population.

Yet the Government has spent over $400 billion trying to stop the spread of it. Imposing restrictions that crippled our economy, put countless people out of work and closed thousands (many permanently) businesses, and screwed up the education of thousands of kids who were in the least affected cohort.

Now they're vaccinating little kids who were never statistically affected by Covid for the past 2 years.

For what ? A coronavirus that has only adversely affected (tested postive) 4% of the population and only 5% of them hospitalized. (Ont stats)

What triggered me into looking deeper…the fact that prior to the vaccines being available, there was never any effort (still isn't) by this Government to collect data on those who had recovered from the virus and now have the antibodies that make them immune to Covid (the same antibodies at vaccine created). People who have recovered don't need the vaccine.

Why would they not want to know, study and collect that data…it’s integral to herd immunity numbers, which was initially the entire goal of the vaccination program. ?

Why would a Government be so bent on trying to vaccinate 100% of the population, thru coercion, with a vaccine that is to this day, still only authorized for emergency use. ?

Why do people like myself and many others in society in general not buy into the subterfuge perpetrated by the MSM, is a good question. Maybe it would be better to ask yourself, why do people blindly follow without looking at the data, the same data that I have posted above, and wonder; why have we been duped?

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Originally Posted by delmer

I agree. It doesn't matter which side of the debate you are on, why spend hours in line for a test kit that is known to give false results?

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Worse yet trusting the result from a Covid home test and heading to party with family:

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If you plan on taking a rapid COVID test for peace of mind before heading to a holiday party or family dinner this week, experts urge you not to drop your guard if you see a negative result.

Rapid tests are reliable when they come back positive, experts say. A negative result, on the other hand, could mean several things — none of which guarantee you don’t have COVID, or won’t spread it.

“With a rapid test, a positive is a positive,” said Dr. Eric Arts, a virologist and immunology professor at Western University. “A negative is not a definitive negative. You may still be infected, regardless of what the rapid test shows you.”

He added: “A sense of security doesn’t exist,”

For one, a negative rapid test result could be a false negative. That happens more often with rapid tests than the PCR tests done at assessment centres, which are more accurate but still not infallible.

It could also be the result of improper sample collection — it’s common for people to miss the part of their nose or upper respiratory tract the virus is replicating while taking a swab, Arts said.

f you plan on taking a rapid COVID test for peace of mind before heading to a holiday party or family dinner this week, experts urge you not to drop your guard if you see a negative result.

Rapid tests are reliable when they come back positive, experts say. A negative result, on the other hand, could mean several things — none of which guarantee you don’t have COVID, or won’t spread it.

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Not to argue the reliability of the tests, because I truly don’t know. But I find it interesting how some can pick and choose what data or information or news story they follow, just because it fits their narrative.

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Not to argue the reliability of the tests, because I truly don’t know. But I find it interesting how some can pick and choose what data or information or news story they follow, just because it fits their narrative.

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Are you saying there are two sets of books? The reliability of data should always be taken into consideration if you expect an accurate depiction. This isn't a I'm a Leafs fan vs. I'm a Habs fan.

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Originally Posted by justinmch

The vast majority of people do not agree with your ideas about conspiracy and corruption being the basis of the whole pandemic.
I have a question for you and I am not trolling. I am truly curious.
What is it that makes you guys recognize this charade while the majority does not?
What is going on in your brain that is not happening in the vast majority of other people?
Professional health care workers almost overwhelmingly support the mainstream story of the pandemic. These people have at least average intelligence, and with out doubt, more knowledge about health issues than you and I. The rest of the population also accepts the mainstream concepts about the pandemic.
What makes you guys special so that you see this situation and the rest of us don't?
You must have asked yourselves this question many, many times. What did you come up with?

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Bingo! Winner, winner!

They want to know why there's hysteria with rapid tests ... it's simple, no conspiracy ... people are freaking out about a shut down, the new variant, and WANT to see their loved ones for Christmas. Hospital test bookings are through the roof ... go ahead and try on the Halton site to get a booking ... maybe you'll find something in January! So, people are now resorting to the rapid tests as a way to get confirmation of their virus status, hoping for a negative result, so they can actually visit with their family and friends.

It's nothing more than people being diligent to test themselves before they go see Grandma for Christmas!

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haha.

Yes why wait 5 hours for a test kit when you can make appt in a clinic and walk in and get tested right away.

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Really? I tried booking in Halton last night ... first appointment I could get was well into next week.
That's past Christmas according to my calculation.

Anyone who suspects they may have the virus, or has come in close contact with someone suspected to have the virus, will not
be helped by your average clinic like Shoppers ... they will refuse you, unless you lie. You have to go to a hospital ... so suddenly
rapid tests become a great option.

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Originally Posted by smitty55

Where did you get that idea? Let me guess, main stream media. There are many thousands of people in the health care field who disagree with your statement that has no facts to back it up.

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There are many millions of healthcare workers that support the vaccine, and understand the severity of the virus.
Millions vs. thousands ... think about that. For sure the few health workers that are reluctant to get the vaccine are the minority.

To put the Hysteria into perspective here is a chart that shows the demographics of the population in Canada that died with covid within the last 2 years.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...canada-by-age/

The test is only 58% accurate on asymptomatic people and 72% with symptoms so what is the real value?

The Hysteria and fear is very real, these people are already double jabbed. This is happening all over
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=30...338&aggr_v_ids[0]

I know of someone showing symptoms of covid few days ago. Did a rapid test and said negative. Today they feel even worse, Went to the hospital and are now positive.

Entire family likely infected now as they weren't worried after negative rapid test...quarantine Xmas now

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Originally Posted by SongDog

I know of someone showing symptoms of covid few days ago. Did a rapid test and said negative. Today they feel even worse, Went to the hospital and are now positive.

Entire family likely infected now as they weren't worried after negative rapid test...quarantine Xmas now

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I think that will be a common story here on in...people counting on the rapid test results to say their OK to gather. Like the quote I posted earlier, the test results are wrought with problems and not to be taken verbatim.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

But I find it interesting how some can pick and choose what data or information or news story they follow, just because it fits their narrative.

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I more amazed at how many people don't even read or understand the data. They've never questioned it...but then, that's something the Government counts on.

headline:

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Ontarians who resell rapid antigen COVID-19 test kits could be fined

Ontarians who resell rapid antigen COVID-19 test kits may be fined for doing so.

Government and Consumer Services Minister Ross Romano says reselling the kits is considered a breach of government emergency orders that prohibit charging unfair prices for necessary goods.

He says the government is working to "identify, track down, and fine" businesses or individuals who break the rules.

Fines range from $750 to $100,000 for individuals, up to $500,000 for company directors and up to $10 million for corporations.

Romano says 900 "egregious" complaints about rapid test resales have been referred to police forces.

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All sorts of holes in this story...

What is an unfair price...?

Are the test kits deemed neccassry (essential) ? I don't think so, they are not PPE nor valid as proff of being negative for travel etc.

I don't think the boxes are marked 'not for resale'...

Gotta figure....a guy rolls by, after you've stood in line for 3 hrs with no end in sight and pops the trunk lid ..you bet 8/10 will pay him a 'fair' price for a kit. HaHa..

Some people spent 6hrs in line waiting for rapid test kits today.
I'd think a fair price for that would be over $200.

It's takes a pretty good imagination to consider a rapid test kit 'essential'.
Then again, beer and liquor was considered essential too.

No conspiracy on the great reset.

Our own prime Minister says this virus or pandemic has given an "opportunity" for a great reset to fix equality ,climate change,
It didn't mention anything about the virus

But it brings opportunities to build back better I guess.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/the-g...-a-conspiracy/

Look at all the build back betters

https://youtu.be/YkcaeaD45MY

Aka means we were broken already this is an excuse to fix us lol

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Our own prime Minister says this virus or pandemic has given an "opportunity" for a great reset to fix equality ,climate change,

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And the DPM. ."I really believe COVID has created a window of political opportunity and ....." Freeland said.

German scandal of the unjabbed

Wonder if we are doing the same . Just toss in the unknown status to the unvaccinated group.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/scand...g-of-unjabbed/

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Originally Posted by MarkB

There are many millions of healthcare workers that support the vaccine, and understand the severity of the virus.
Millions vs. thousands ... think about that. For sure the few health workers that are reluctant to get the vaccine are the minority.

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Yea sure, and how many of them would have voluntarily taken the jab if they weren't coerced into taking it from the threat of job loss? Or does that not enter into your thinking? The reason those many thousands have refused is because they are aware of the side effects and don't believe government spin like you do.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

In general terms, there is always a split in society as to who is a follower and who questions what is going on.

What happened in the case of Covid, fear was used to perpetuate the myth that this virus was going to kill all of us. It was going to kill some...but nowhere near the lethality that the MSM and Politicians have led the public to believe.

To this day, after multiple variants and waves, the death toll from the virus is only .08% of the population. And most of them (93%) were in a demographic of 60+ year olds with pre-existing autoimmune and comorbidity issues. A full 63% of the deaths were in 80+ age group, many living in LTC facilities.

This pandemic has never been anywhere near the hype that it was built up to by the MSM from day one, and especially not a death threat to 99% of the population.

Yet the Government has spent over $400 billion trying to stop the spread of it. Imposing restrictions that crippled our economy, put countless people out of work and closed thousands (many permanently) businesses, and screwed up the education of thousands of kids who were in the least affected cohort.

Now they're vaccinating little kids who were never statistically affected by Covid for the past 2 years.

For what ? A coronavirus that has only adversely affected (tested postive) 4% of the population and only 5% of them hospitalized. (Ont stats)

What triggered me into looking deeper…the fact that prior to the vaccines being available, there was never any effort (still isn't) by this Government to collect data on those who had recovered from the virus and now have the antibodies that make them immune to Covid (the same antibodies at vaccine created). People who have recovered don't need the vaccine.

Why would they not want to know, study and collect that data…it’s integral to herd immunity numbers, which was initially the entire goal of the vaccination program. ?

Why would a Government be so bent on trying to vaccinate 100% of the population, thru coercion, with a vaccine that is to this day, still only authorized for emergency use. ?

Why do people like myself and many others in society in general not buy into the subterfuge perpetrated by the MSM, is a good question. Maybe it would be better to ask yourself, why do people blindly follow without looking at the data, the same data that I have posted above, and wonder; why have we been duped?

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Well put Mike, unfortunately as you know that common sense will fall on many deaf ears here.

It really falls upon which information you deem to be true. The misinformation war is working well to divide society into two camps. Both sides believing they are right and they have the stats to back them up. Questioning the truth happens on both sides and both sides can draw their conclusions with what information they believe. Maybe one side is right and not the other. Maybe both sides are right, maybe they’re both wrong. We won’t truly know anything for some time. Asking questions is great. Listening to others perspective is great. Believing that you, and only you, know the truth is a bit far fetched. But maybe through plain conversation we can come to a better understanding.
Too commonly on here we see a few main characters standing firm on their beliefs. Nothing wrong with that, but in the end, what’s it worth? The ability to say “I told you so”? Wow! Get out the Nobel prize.
Covid discussions have been a main focus for nearly two years now, and we are no closer to understanding where and how it came about, or where it’s headed. How much longer will we beat this dead horse?

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Covid discussions have been a main focus for nearly two years now, and we are no closer to understanding where and how it came about, or where it’s headed. How much longer will we beat this dead horse?

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Well said.
Personally I believe as usual the truth will end up somewhere in the middle.
But people on either side seem to get their jollies putting down, making fun of our pointing the finger at the other side, while all along accusing the other side of doing the exact same thing.

Just go one with your life, enjoy and have a Merry Christmas to the best you can within your personal boundaries.

Following a massively cooperative campaign and disparaging the nay sayers stands ahead of the facts. Studies show that the unpricked are more educated than the pricked

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Following a massively cooperative campaign and disparaging the nay sayers stands ahead of the facts. Studies show that the unpricked are more educated than the pricked

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And these studies you speak of are where exactly?

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

And these studies you speak of are where exactly?

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Just follow and acknowledge the lies. There's no need for boosters according to the science.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1473659275394396160

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It really falls upon which information you deem to be true.

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It's less about what is true but more about how it's hidden from the general public. Take for an example the death rate in Canada...that number is true...it's data...but you will never hear a talking head on any main stream news broadcast tell Canadians "the covid Virus has only killed .08% of the population."

Why...because it goes against the goal to maintain the fear of the Virus so they can continue to feed into the hysteria that has been created with inflamed numbers like cases, which are meaningless. That is what sells NEWS..always has. They used to have a saying in the print news world.."if it bleeds it leads". That sells papers.

People who don't buy into the gloom and doom reported by the MSM and actually look at the data know, that 96% of all Canadians have not been medically affected by the virus. That's the data ..it's not twisted or manipulated.. it's the truth, that again you won't hear on the nightly news.

If you're not comfortable hearing facts that challenge your belief system, on this 'Covid' forum, by those of us that seek to find unearth the real data, the truth behind the facade, maybe you should not subject yourself to it.

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Just follow and acknowledge the lies. There's no need for boosters according to the science.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1473659275394396160

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I’m asking for actual study’s that back up his statement “Studies show the unpricked are more educated than the pricked.” So that’s more than one study. Just asking him to back up his statement is all.

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

I’m asking for actual study’s that back up his statement “Studies show the unpricked are more educated than the pricked.” So that’s more than one study. Just asking him to back up his statement is all.

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There's lots out there..
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...sZNqNZ8zFdz8jg

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

There's lots out there..
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer...sZNqNZ8zFdz8jg

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I will explain once again for those that are having difficulty following. The quote is “Studies show the unpricked are more educated than the pricked.”

“Studies” is plural, so that means more than one. What studies are showing that the those who have had a vaccination are not educated?

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Originally Posted by Cameracutter

I will explain once again for those that are having difficulty following. The quote is “Studies show the unpricked are more educated than the pricked.”

“Studies” is plural, so that means more than one. What studies are showing that the those who have had a vaccination are not educated?

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Here's a study that suggests otherwise.

https://news.usc.edu/182848/educatio...sks-usc-study/

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Researchers with the Center for Economic and Social Research (CESR) at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences found that more than 3 out of 4 (76%) U.S. adults with at least a bachelor’s degree have already been vaccinated or plan to be, compared to just over half (53%) of those without a college degree.

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And another

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tion-1.6063373

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Experts who have reviewed the education data say they are not particularly surprised by what it shows. In poll after poll of public opinion, people with higher levels of formal education tend to express more willingness — even eagerness — to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

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And another

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...-unvaccinated/

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Americans with lower levels of education make up a larger share of the unvaccinated population than the vaccinated one, with 46% of unvaccinated adults holding a high school degree or less compared to 34% of vaccinated adults. Vaccinated Americans are twice as likely as unvaccinated to have a college degree or higher (38% vs. 19%).

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And why not one more

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...irus-vaccines/

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Americans with more formal schooling are also more likely to be vaccinated. Around nine-in-ten of those with a postgraduate degree or more (89%) said they had received at least one dose by August, compared with smaller shares of those with a bachelor’s degree (81%), some college education (69%) or a high school diploma or less (66%).

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I will explain once again for those that are having difficulty following. The quote is “Studies show the unpricked are more educated than the pricked.”

“Studies” is plural, so that means more than one. What studies are showing that the those who have had a vaccination are not educated?

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Educate yourself, it not hard to do your own research. Or you can resort to MSM for all your covid-19 fear mongering propaganda

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Here's a study that suggests otherwise.

https://news.usc.edu/182848/educatio...sks-usc-study/



And another

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tion-1.6063373



And another

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...-unvaccinated/

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If the vaccines worked, why the need for boosters less than 1 year of full vaccination?
To bad the vaccines are not as advertised, but people continue to believe the lies fed to them
https://twitter.com/i/status/1473659275394396160

Doesn't take higher education to know when being lied to rrepeatedly, just common sense

Or 4 in a year like Israel.



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Originally Posted by fishfood

Or 4 in a year like Israel.



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No worries we have many more boosters on the way
https://youtu.be/MU2KcwQGK5Y

Why do I need to be forced into taking the vaccine?

Or the kids who have little trouble fending off covid.
Why am I going to just jump on a drug that hasn't properly been tested.

The youngest person in Quebec just past of covid the other day was it from the mother's jab? Was she jabbed? It was a 2 month old and the possibility will this be a new trend or just a fluke coincidence?

The youngest person to pass in Quebec before this was 16.


Some people actually want to wait for the data to come out.
The latest safety report on pfizer shows 160 thousand adverse effects including 1200 deaths.

Remember it takes years to figure out how safe a drug is not months.


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Here's a study that suggests otherwise.


https://news.usc.edu/182848/educatio...sks-usc-study/



And another

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tion-1.6063373



And another

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...-unvaccinated/



And why not one more

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...irus-vaccines/

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Ha ha, had a very similar list going here. Was waiting to see if the poster of the comment had anything.

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Here's a study that suggests otherwise.

https://news.usc.edu/182848/educatio...sks-usc-study/



And another

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tion-1.6063373



And another

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...-unvaccinated/



And why not one more

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...irus-vaccines/

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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8TkABUu/

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Educate yourself, it not hard to do your own research. Or you can resort to MSM for all your covid-19 fear mongering propaganda

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Your googling hardly qualifies as research. However if you happen to have recently picked up a degree in immunology, or virology I’d be willing to consider your perspective with a little more weight. And what fear mongering have I been doing? I simply asked someone to back up their statement.

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Ha ha, had a very similar list going here. Was waiting to see if the poster of the comment had anything.

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I had a couple more but didn't want to be accused of piling on. LOL.

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Your googling hardly qualifies as research. However if you happen to have recently picked up a degree in immunology, or virology I’d be willing to consider your perspective with a little more weight. And what fear mongering have I been doing? I simply asked someone to back up their statement.

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The link provided had Phyzer's own flawed trials, cdc, fauchi, President flat out lies, yet people ignore and refuse to accept, they believe every lie they're spoon fed. Kinda like this...
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Meme away your day if you wish. And Merry Christmas.

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What makes me laugh are the wacko's that will stand in line ups for hours to get a test that's not even 100% sure, then it takes time to process it and by the time you get an answer, the virus could have infested you 10 times over but you are going to visit others and infest them.

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What makes me laugh are the wacko's that will stand in line ups for hours to get a test that's not even 100% sure, then it takes time to process it and by the time you get an answer, the virus could have infested you 10 times over but you are going to visit others and infest them.

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Crazy eh? People wanting to perhaps protect their loved ones. Good thing this group is here to judge others without knowing anything about what that person’s reasons are.

(The above is meant as sarcasm for those that have questions about my comments.)

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The link provided had Phyzer's own flawed trials, cdc, fauchi, President flat out lies, yet people ignore and refuse to accept, they believe every lie they're spoon fed. Kinda like this...
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If I was looking for a Sheppard I would pick the good Doctor over you. LOL

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Crazy eh? People wanting to perhaps protect their loved ones. Good thing this group is here to judge others without knowing anything about what that person’s reasons are.

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MSM covid-19 fear propaganda creates 5hr lines for flawed test.

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If I was looking for a Sheppard I would pick the good Doctor over you. LOL

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Still won't accept lies from the left for the flocks to follow. From your heros own mouth

https://twitter.com/i/status/1473659275394396160

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Crazy eh? People wanting to perhaps protect their loved ones. Good thing this group is here to judge others without knowing anything about what that person’s reasons are.

(The above is meant as sarcasm for those that have questions about my comments.)

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What about putting them on the store shelves? Then everyone would have one oh but then again that would be illegal.



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What about putting them on the store shelves? Then everyone would have one oh but then again that would be illegal.



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I would agree that there are better ways to distribute the tests. But describing those you are seeing lining up for a test as “wackos” with out know their reasoning is an over generalization.

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Clarify for me if you would, is it the government and their decisions creating this hysteria you speak of, or is it the MSM reporting on the decisions that create this hysteria you speak of?

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Clarify for me if you would, is it the government and there decisions creating this hysteria you speak of, or is it the MSM reporting on the decisions that create this hysteria you speak of?

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Oh I can answer that. The government
Pushed it to the media the media is following orders.

The government is using every tool available to push for the shots. The media is paid by the government and the ones pushing the agenda .

It would not surprise me to find out later that the government is paying big businesses to push the shots.

Because following the science and vaccinating the children who can now catch and sprad the virus of omicron is not following the science. The idea to get them vaccinated was the idea of it slowing the spread. Now it's just about getting them vaccinated when they were of little threat of the virus.

Just for fun I guess it's not needed but it's the new way of life I guess.

Like them vaccinating the people who just recovered knowing they had more immunity than the vaccines.

"The government is using every tool available"
Their words not mine

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According to this survey the majority of pro CV vaxxers in America are white male Biden supporters.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...cine-decisions

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Clarify for me if you would, is it the government and their decisions creating this hysteria you speak of, or is it the MSM reporting on the decisions that create this hysteria you speak of?

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Lots to go round

https://youtu.be/nYIJxoh7gqw

https://youtu.be/_0KsVsuymNU

Not all pro-vaccine people in America are Biden supporters. Here's a notable exception. Been boosted even though he's already had COVID. Evidently he doesn't believe in "natural immunity" either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOCcEo3KHI&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgZCljdh_sQ&ab_channel=TheDamageReport

To bad the vaccines aren't working like they claimed. The numbers are worse this year than last year with no vaccines. Doesn't say much for a vaccine that will get us back to normal....

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To bad the vaccines aren't working like they claimed. The numbers are worse this year than last year with no vaccines. Doesn't say much for a vaccine that will get us back to normal....

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Hospitalization numbers are down. A vaccine that helps keep people out of ICUs and funeral homes is a success. Even Donald Trump thinks so.

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Hospitalization numbers are down. A vaccine that helps keep people out of ICUs and funeral homes is a success. Even Donald Trump thinks so.

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No need for more vaccines shots ..the Omicron variant will sweep thru both the vaccinated and unvaccinated equally. It does discriminate. It appears (UK) to have reduced hospitalizations and deaths are rare...it doesn't kill. More like the common cold, which is ironic because that is what Covid is..a coronavirus.

In the end it will provide natural immunity to the entire population, and it's better than Booster to those who were vaxxed.. Win Win..

Might well delete that QR code B...it is meaningless...everyone is on a level playing field now. :)

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A vaccine that helps keep people out of ICUs and funeral homes is a success

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No proof that it makes a difference in severity until more data is collected..so far the numbers are too small to make a correlation.

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No proof that it makes a difference in severity until more data is collected..so far the numbers are too small to make a correlation.

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The difference in severity is quite evident now as per capita the unvaccinated in ICUs and hospitals greatly outnumber the vaccinated.

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No need for more vaccines shots ..the Omicron variant will sweep thru both the vaccinated and unvaccinated equally. It does discriminate. It appears (UK) to have reduced hospitalizations and deaths are rare...it doesn't kill. More like the common cold, which is ironic because that is what Covid is..a coronavirus.

In the end it will provide natural immunity to the entire population, and it's better than Booster to those who were vaxxed.. Win Win..

Might well delete that QR code B...it is meaningless...everyone is on a level playing field now. :)

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Certainly it is the hope that the new variant will be manageable but we've still a long way to go before reaching that point. In the meantime I'll keep my QR code as it continues to provide access to places the unvaccinated cannot go. Until which time that changes it has significant meaning unless one prefers living in a perpetual state of lockdown.

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The difference in severity is quite evident now as per capita the unvaccinated in ICUs and hospitals greatly outnumber the vaccinated.



Certainly it is the hope that the new variant will be manageable but we've still a long way to go before reaching that point. In the meantime I'll keep my QR code as it continues to provide access to places the unvaccinated cannot go. Until which time that changes it has significant meaning unless one prefers living in a perpetual state of lockdown.

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You still face restrictions being fully-vaccinated, so much for the vaccines getting you back to normal..
https://alethonews.com/2021/10/12/ex...d-by-over-300/

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The difference in severity is quite evident now as per capita the unvaccinated in ICUs and hospitals greatly outnumber the vaccinated.



Certainly it is the hope that the new variant will be manageable but we've still a long way to go before reaching that point. In the meantime I'll keep my QR code as it continues to provide access to places the unvaccinated cannot go. Until which time that changes it has significant meaning unless one prefers living in a perpetual state of lockdown.

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It would not surprise me to find out later that the government is paying big businesses to push the shots.

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I would expect that we'll find it the other way round......hysteria being driven by big pharma for ridiculous profits "down the road".

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The difference in severity is quite evident now as per capita the unvaccinated in ICUs and hospitals greatly outnumber the vaccinated.

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NO your wrong again..still... you keep saying that and it's not true. The Hospitalizations data from the Health Canada Dashboard.
Dec 22 in Ontario:

Total in Hospital (non ICU) 304
Unvaccinated cases 138 (45%)
Partially (13) + Fully (153) vaccinated cases =166 or (54%)

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I would expect that we'll find it the other way round......hysteria being driven by big pharma for ridiculous profits "down the road".

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Maybe the excuse for many is that its expensive and cost to much for all the test.

They were made to test the unvaccinated policy from the government said you didn't need a test if your vaccinated. Tradding test for shots then just making mandates.

Just following orders and policies for the push.

Sad.

Like Chapman's trading test for jabs because the unvaccinated needed to be tested more even know the cbc said in the summer that a 3rd of the vaccinated had the same viral load as the unvaccinated.

Gm
Admitted that the only exemption are to the ones who cannot receive the second. How many had an adverse reaction from gm after the first one?

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NO your wrong again..still... you keep saying that and it's not true. The Hospitalizations data from the Health Canada Dashboard.
Dec 22 in Ontario:

Total in Hospital (non ICU) 304
Unvaccinated cases 138 (45%)
Partially (13) + Fully (153) vaccinated cases =166 or (54%)

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Oh boy, the narrative is crumbling by the day. Vaccination failure in full effect..

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NO your wrong again..still... you keep saying that and it's not true. The Hospitalizations data from the Health Canada Dashboard.
Dec 22 in Ontario:

Total in Hospital (non ICU) 304
Unvaccinated cases 138 (45%)
Partially (13) + Fully (153) vaccinated cases =166 or (54%)

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He is pushing a moot point they are not overwhelmed with covid patients .

Just because the doctors are seeing the worst outcomes and people the sickest are unvaccinated. The reality is that there are not that many and they can work just fine.

What's the problem if a few people get really sick it was their choice. As long as they are not putting major pressure on the health system and they are not.

The flu has been around for a long time and people still end up in the hospital it's not mandatory for everyone to get the flu shots to keep everyone out of the hospital

It's like his seat belt thing people still go to the hospital every day that didn't have it on at the time of the crash.

Moot points for the push.

Again almost 20 percent of the population over 50 in the highest risk groups are unvaccinated.

But to many it's just the unvaccinated that are the problem. Age groups are at different risks of needing medical attention not all the unvaccinated.

Before vaccines the average age of hospitalization was in the 50s. This hasn't changed.

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Seems like the hospital visits are up since vaccines.

It never even flattened out during the summer
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0d0962bd50.jpg

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NO your wrong again..still... you keep saying that and it's not true. The Hospitalizations data from the Health Canada Dashboard.
Dec 22 in Ontario:

Total in Hospital (non ICU) 304
Unvaccinated cases 138 (45%)
Partially (13) + Fully (153) vaccinated cases =166 or (54%)

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There are five times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated in Ontario. They represent a much smaller percentage of the population but a disproportionately higher number of hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

Bad news for children. The truth revealed by the head of WHO...

https://youtu.be/4zIKOUi7uW8

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Maybe, but those “fools” can still carry on life as before…

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I would expect that we'll find it the other way round......hysteria being driven by big pharma for ridiculous profits "down the road".

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Its not just big pharma apparently the USA Covid relief funds have been relieved of 100 billion dollars by various nefarious folks. I am just wondering how you can lose 100 billion down the drain.

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Maybe, but those “fools” can still carry on life as before…

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Not really still have to do testing for travel, still have to wear a mask and follow health restrictions for group numbers sporting and concert event numbers, no food or drinks at sporting/concert events. Gyms closed to vaccinated members, restaurants and bars limited capacity and early closure times.
Even the vaccinated are no longer living normal like they used to...

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I am just wondering how you can lose 100 billion down the drain.

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There are five times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated in Ontario. They represent a much smaller percentage of the population but a disproportionately higher number of hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

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So......there are still more vaccinated in the hospital than unvaccinated.

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So......there are still more vaccinated in the hospital than unvaccinated.

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Nope.

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

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Unvaccinated: 223
Partially vaccinated: 16
Fully vaccinated: 181

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Its not just big pharma apparently the USA Covid relief funds have been relieved of 100 billion dollars by various nefarious folks. I am just wondering how you can lose 100 billion down the drain.

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Easy !!! Vote Liebral !!!!

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Easy !!! Vote Liebral !!!!

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NO your wrong again..still... you keep saying that and it's not true. The Hospitalizations data from the Health Canada Dashboard.
Dec 22 in Ontario:

Total in Hospital (non ICU) 304
Unvaccinated cases 138 (45%)
Partially (13) + Fully (153) vaccinated cases =166 or (54%)

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Mike not only is he wrong as usual but he is blatantly lying even though he knows the truth as governments stats prove him wrong. That's what a troll does.

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That's what they told you. How' it workin out?

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Mike not only is he wrong as usual but he is blatantly lying even though he knows the truth as governments stats prove him wrong. That's what a troll does.

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The hospitalizations numbers are quite different if you include the people in ICU and not.

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

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Unvaccinated: 223
Partially vaccinated: 16
Fully vaccinated: 181

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There are five times as many unvaccinated as vaccinated and yet the majority of hospitalizations come from the unvaccinated and a greater proportion of those are in the ICU.

And the higher proportional infection rate among the unvaccinated is occurring despite the restrictions on them.

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The hospitalizations numbers are quite different if you include the people in ICU and not.

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data



There are five times as many unvaccinated as vaccinated and yet the majority of hospitalizations come from the unvaccinated and a greater proportion of those are in the ICU.

And the higher proportional infection rate among the unvaccinated is occurring despite the restrictions on them.

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And the majority in New Brunswick 21 of the 34 in hospital are 60 and up no one under the age of 19.


"Thirty-four people are in hospital, including 15 in intensive care and 12 on ventilators.None of those admitted to hospital tested with the Omicron variant,Public Health said.
Of those in hospital, 21 are over the age of 60, and none are under 19."


They stopped reporting the vaccinated vs unvaccinated long ago.




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They stopped reporting the vaccinated vs unvaccinated long ago.

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That started when the fully vaccinated positive case numbers started to exceed the unvaccinated...can't have the truth being told if it goes against the vaccination narrative, :)

Standing in line for 5 hrs for a test kit that doesn't have a great success rate with the Omicron variant.

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Rapid Covid tests not as accurate with Omicron:

Rapid Covid home tests are more likely to give a false negative with the heavily-mutated Omicron variant compared to earlier strains, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said Tuesday.

In a statement, the FDA said it was collaborating with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to study the performance of home tests, also known as "antigen" tests, against patient samples containing live versions of the Omicron variant.

"Early data suggests that antigen tests do detect the Omicron variant but may have reduced sensitivity," the agency said.

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The stupidity of it all....

Rapid antigen testing is also known as rapid testing or point of care (POC) testing. It is available for individuals without symptoms who are part of a workplace or organization that is participating in the Provincial Antigen Screening Program or private testing.

Rapid testing should be used for screening only and should not be used to diagnose COVID-19 infection.

Rapid testing does not prevent someone from getting COVID-19. It also does not replace public health measures such as symptom screening, physical distancing, appropriate use of PPE (masking, eye protection) and hand hygiene. Rapid testing can be thought of as an additional screening tool. Any positive results from rapid testing must be confirmed with laboratory-based testing.

The accuracy of a rapid antigen test is not 100%. There is a strong possibility of false negative results. This means that in some cases a client who does have COVID-19 may get a negative result through rapid testing.

Proper training prior to use is important. This will ensure more accurate results.

https://www.ottawapublichealth.ca/en...n-testing.aspx

"Yep,it's Omicron alright. Take two Aspirins and call me in the morning. Now,where's that stat sheet?"

my stepson has tested just about everything he can find
labrador retriever 8 years old negative
labrador retriever 1.75 years old positive
tap water positive
bottle of OV positive
can of coke negative
hot tub water positive
Christmas tree water negative
coyote i shot yesterday positive mouth negative gunshot

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my stepson has tested just about everything he can find
labrador retriever 8 years old negative
labrador retriever 1.75 years old positive
tap water positive
bottle of OV positive
can of coke negative
hot tub water positive
Christmas tree water negative
coyote i shot yesterday positive mouth negative gunshot

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Hilarious, I just shake my head at the sheeple that are lined up like going to the gallows to try and get a test that's questionable at best.

http://i.imgur.com/USmWDhY.jpg