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I get a cheque in the mail the other day for $320.00 for my sticker on the van AND I assumed on my wife's car.
She got a cheque today for $430.00 for her car sticker. So not wanting to defraud the government as it seemed to much I call them up
and no that's the right amount everything ok.
Doug I love you, I promise never to vote for those "other guys" again. LOL
Looks like I might get that new chain saw this year after all. :shades:
My sentiments exactly. $364.24 hmmmm what can I put that towards....
I appreciated my refund too, but I have to wonder how the government is going to replace all those funds, which presumably went towards maintaining the infrastructure.
I cashed my refund of 380 bucks for my pickup ( 2 year sticker) but cannot fathom as to how the government can afford it. My Hydro delivery fee jumped at least 50 bucks over last year so I'm thinking more fees will go up .
I thought I was a sucker, bought my 2 year stickers for everything I own 1 month before they announced not to bother because of Covid. Then I was happy I did when they started back charging. Now I get a cheque for $629?
What an emotional roller coaster. Too bad it will be eaten up by the cost of everything else.
$780. Paid for a new power washer, the other was about 25 years old and the pump leaking, no parts available. Going to make a couple of tiny LED lights for the downrigger depth counter, saw it on another website, saves fiddling with a flashlight.
Who knew they would pay out from 2020 lol. I thought we would only get the rebate on for next year's as we just recently got the 2 year lol.
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I never bought stickers for my truck since 2020, but I had to get new plates as one got lost in the truck accident. Now stickers to pay for.
Haven't gotten the money back for my cars, I heard it comes near your birthday so mine won't be until Oct and the wife's July.
I got mine today and my birthday isn’t for another 6 months…..Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Ridiculous initiative…..bribing us with money that our grandchildren will pay for
The only way the next generation will make it is if they know how to handle any inheritance they get.
My kids will get an OK start.
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Originally Posted by 73hunter
Bribe me now.
They take too much.
Giving mine to Trudeau. Boo !! Apparently I owe a wack of income tax.
Getting rid of an unnecessary fee and an administrative nightmare is a win win. Do you really think this was a money maker for the government?
It probably still cost the government money to run this system. At the very least it didn’t put much back in.
Add that to the cost of trying to get people to pay the money owing from 2020 for those who didn’t pay.
This was the only realistic solution. It’s not a bribe. If you paid when you didn’t need to you get your money back.
If you didn’t pay you don’t have to pay back to 2020. Can you imagine the crying that would have been going on?
Like most government run system it cost as much as it brings in so good in my mind mind that they dumped this mess
Less red tape and less fees and less administration is a good thing
If there is any lost revenue it will be made up in gst at the gas pumps alone. Not to mention on everything else that costs more now
I'm a late-October baby and I got mine in the mail yester.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Some good points about people not getting the stickers during the pandemic. We didn't off set anything but many did put it off because they couldQuote:
Originally Posted by FishHog
As for the gas tax it's supposed to go down or did on Monday I think that will put a ripple into things. Will it go back to the same point when they put it back ? Will it increase to make up for the loss of 6 months who would be loosing out from the lost revenue.? .
Save us now pay for it later .
Like the usa inflation put up the gas so they want a 300 dollar a month stimulus cheuqe that Will again increase inflation lol. Printing more money to offset the cost that will make the cost to continue to rise . They aren't very smart lol.
A few situations of that example could come to the Canadian real-estate by government intervention. Canadians don't want to loose value on their homes but they think the government will save it. Our finance minister is shocked . What a surprise like she didn't already know it's been a problem for a while.
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I have heard that to replace the yearly licence fee the government is bringing in a yearly / bi-yearly safety program. Age of vehicle determines how often you will be required to have a safety inspection done. That pesky abs light - fail. That tire pressure sensor that needs to be replaced - fail. Prox sensor in your bumper that tells you you're too close to the garage wall gone bad - fix it. When passed you get an rfid window sticker. Revenue collect.. I mean traffic cops will apparently be able to tell from a distance whether the car has passed or not....
Easy there with the tin foil....Quote:
Originally Posted by M_P
FYI, the police have long had plate reader tech in their vehicles that automatically will alert if a scanned plate A: Is valid B: Has a driver without suspension.
No RFID needed, as distance and proximity for RFID to work is quite close.
Not sure if maintaining your vehicle should be a problem for some.....personally I don't drive a POS that has dash lights on all the time...
That was my understanding why the stickers are no longer needed. With computer scan instant info so sticker is an unneeded redundancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
I am lost ,please help with all the reasoning.
The Police will know if the plate is valid-what will make a license plate of a vehicle on the road- INVALID in the future?
So far to issue a new sticker they were collecting (other then the money)-owners data-mileage and Insurance Policy info at hand.
For a fee which was increasing each year-for a simple 3 min data entry into a computer and the self adhesive validation sticker. Cost of the sticker is likely 2 $.
This tells me -they wanted to know,if the owner has Insurance,and perhaps the Vehicle mileage record was for Re -sale control(mileage fraud)
How the Police would know by remotely reading the plate-if the "driver"has suspended license?Maybe the "owner"of the vehicle has suspended license-but it would be not uncommon, for others to drive a vehicle,no?
As far i can understand, this is a simple money return at election time.
Time will tell how they will take the money back.Based on perpetually increasein the cost(in my opinion with little cost justification for that) of the now defunct Validation stickers-the time will come.
You still are required to renew your vehicle registration. As far as plate readers, most smaller police services do not have readers due to the costs. Those costs are going to be offset by the government, to allow more services to get readers. Your insurance particulars DL status etc are linked into the same system as your ownership information. Police need only query the plate to get vehicle and owner info. They will still have to stop and check the actual driver to check licence
status. A check that comes back as “insured” is not necessarily the case. People have a habit of not paying their insurance premiums…
And a check that comes back "not insured" might also be possibly wrong as has happened to me LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Absolutely !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
I find it very offensive that you would suggest a forum member might have a tin foil issue, I am therefore assessing you 3 demerit points, no I changed my mind I am giving you a verbal warning. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
Noted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Maybe I was a bit cranky....;)
I also heard the rumor about annual inspections. I haven't really looked into it, or seen any proof.
As far as I know, there are provinces where this is a requirement for years already. If you properly maintain a vehicle, it isn't hard to pass an annual safety. I could certainly see an opportunity for fraud if that system were Implemented.
I am pretty sure it cost more than what we pay for them to produce the sticker and have someone at the private facilities send it out to us or sit there at a desk and hand it over to us.
This system has been removed from a lot of other jurisdictions a long time ago, you still have to register your car and update the information, just not bother with paying as it can all be done in a database online.
If the government can produce evidence that there is a serious problem that warrants inspections then I might buy into the program. Otherwise, they can pound sand!
Maybe there is hope, sure could use that money, didn't want to use my pocket cash to pay for some new truck parts and would hate to tell the wife she has to go down to Ottawa Byward Market and beg for money she might disagree with me. :D
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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
I'm offended that Gilly made you back down so easy, as a mod you are supposed to stand your ground even if it is covered in swamp water. 1 day suspension, no review and 3 month probation. Ya gotta be better then this when you come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
John
"Starting in 2023, DriveON will introduce a new, more convenient vehicle safety inspection process for owners of passenger vehicles.
The new DriveON program will:
save commercial motor vehicle owners time and money
reduce fraud
reduce harmful emissions
ensure vehicles are safe for our roads
The DriveON program will roll out starting with vehicle emissions testing facilities in Spring 2022, followed by motor vehicle inspection stations later this year. Existing motor vehicle safety inspections stations will be contacted to explain the transition process, beginning in Summer 2022."
https://www.ontario.ca/page/driveon-...aRdtUSeA8_uBYQ
the machines the stations have to use will cost 50000 it has over 20 cameras to see all that info will be sent to the government you always know when they give you something they will always get it back and also the liberals now want to tax the vehicle you are driving a big ram 3500 pickup will cost you 4000 for the year its for the enviroment pickups and suv are first then passenger cars. would rather just have kept buying my stickers
What is misleading Bushmoose is without actually opening the attachment(and we know many don't) most will miss this part: Your vehicle does not need an emissions test if it is a:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
"Your vehicle does not need an emissions test if it is a:
light passenger vehicle (motor vehicles with a registered gross weight less than or equal to 4,500 kilograms), including motorcycles and motorhomes
heavy non-diesel vehicle (vehicles with a registered gross weight over 4,500 kilograms that do not run on diesel)"
Without the whole story misleading opinions can be falsely believed.
That is why I also included the link to the info. If no one wants to open it, then so be it? I'm not, nor did I intend to, mislead anyone, so please do not insinuate such nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
Last time I checked my cheque came from a provincial Conservative government and in turn as its a PROVINCIAL responsibility licensing vehicles and testing what have the Liberals to do with this programme?Quote:
Originally Posted by deerslayer
If you want to tie in Drive clean programmes with validation stickers, we then have to look at the history as to how we got there.
The drive clean programme was brought in by guess who Mike Harris conservative government and was immediately criticized as being a waste of time and money, Doug Ford when he got into power scrapped the programme. More conservative government "no common sense
programme" LOL.
Any chance you get to bang on the anti conservative drum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Got my check for the wives car 270.00 bucks, that should pay for the Upper control arm on the truck
I got my cheque $330 big whipptiy s$1t… maybe I can fill my big rig with fuel …probably not
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Well, it’s $330.00 you didn’t have before the govt cut you the cheque !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregger17
The govt can stick there cheque up there azz.. don’t need it pal
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I think its pretty good to get a little money back, especially for persons on a fixed income and I appreciate the help. Good one Doug.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Just stating the bare facts of history, I will be voting conservative in Ontario this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
In the end folks, you are just receiving your own money back that the guberment forced you to give them, and did not get any interest on it to boot. This same money will be going back to the man in some form as they finalize a new plan to make driving a fossil fuel vehicle too expensive for the average working family to afford.
Your new electric vehicle as well as the charging station you will have to install in your home to "fuel" it up every night after work shouldn't be that expensive after you pay your other unneccesary bills like heating, food water, electrical and such.
Who knows, maybe your boss will install a few stations so you can reload your batteries at work for a nominal charge.
If you do live in an apartment building, I'm sure the landlord will install a few charging stations in your parking lot for you, as long as you can get home before everyone else to plug in first.
I see nuclear plants being a good investment in the near future for all this new load on our infrastructure.
John
Don't forget about the new road tax to follow the roads are fixed by the gas tax no gas they will have to tax you on the km you drive . The more you drive the more taxes you will pay for repairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
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Nobody expects any road to last forever, gas vehicle or electric vehicle, our weather alone means repairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
No, they will figure out a tax on your electricity needed to charge your car !! You can bet on that !!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Don’t need it ….then donate it to someone who does…food banks come to mind !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregger17
Yes electricity will also rise . Possible black outs to boot as our grid is not built for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Fast already heading to Canada lol I know they did this already where they are further ahead in the electric vehicles. This is just the beginning tax for Saskatchewan base price until more switch. Other places are paying for how much they drive through a set of kms example 1 to 3000, 3000 to 5000 and so on, the more you drive the more you pay.
“Everyone needs to pay their share of maintaining the roads we all use,” says Wilf Steimle, president of Electric Vehicle Society
https://electricautonomy.ca/2021/04/21/ev-road-use-tax/
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Well rick you are one smart man. I gave the $330 bucks too my niece for her 3rd birthday…maybe she can invest it?!??Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
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That will work too !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregger17