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Might have an gun control advocate within carneys cabinet. Probably the worst thing that could happen for gun owners in Canada.
It's a shame the sabotage in Pierre's riding deliberate interference
Protest longest ballot give me a break.
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Well she represents her riding in Quebec and if you were shot in a mass shooting maybe you would end up as a gun control advocate yourself. I am sure PP was well aware of the riding re drawing of the electoral map and had no objections, until he lost. The protest ballot was carried out by the same group and they also wanteds to hit Carney but apparently ran out of time to pull it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
My reading of the election loss for PP was that the residents remembered the Convoy/Maga folks who distrupted their lives for months, jammed up the traffic, closed borders and decided it was pay back time.
If you want to be Prime Minister you do not support folks who decided to impose their views on other peaceful citizens and distrupt their lives.
Could you imagine what would happen if the radical left went from the GTA en masse to Calgary and decided to pull the same stunt and shut that city down.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
The truckers convoy were protesting against mandatory covid vaccine at Ottawa parliament...so was it ok for the liberal gov't to declare those Cdn citizens 'terrorists' and freeze their assets?
I believe it would be the trump syndrome not the convoy. Pierre was trump 2.0 yet its highly incorrect. The entire election was based on trump witch I called at the beginning of the campaign that's what it be about. Just a bunch misguided souls we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
91 candidates on the ballot sheet? Really
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What the truckers did went FAR beyond a peaceful protest!
Ask the Ottawa residents how they liked their nights constantly disrupted with truck horns, streets blocked, and all the other nonsense that totally disrupted their lives.
Well I can tell you on a personal note my wife could not get the vacinne when it first came out as she was not yet 65 years old. So she ended up getting Covid and the very bad Delta form which led to a 15% swelling in her brain and she already has depression. This then led to a very bad incident were I almost lost her.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISH-ON
But that aside I do sympathetic to your views as my son who works for the City of Toronto was forced to get the vacinne or face firing, I know a lot of COPS were in the same boat.
So no doubt that part could have been handled better.
I do not believe your contention that the Freedom Convoy had anything to do with vacine mandates as most truckers were out trucking, most of them are East Indian now and probably did not give a chit about vacinnes.
This was a false flag operation by the far right anti Trudeau crowd who decided that civil unrest was their best course of action and took to the streets in a Trump like insurrection.
The supporters from the USA were flagged sending money up so sure bank accounts were frozen as they were funding domestic unrest in Canada. In the same way the "staw organisers" from Alberta were also being funded by the likes of the Wild Rose Party as a direct protest against what they view as not being heard or taken for granted.
Anyway PP paid the price for the support he gave them and also lost this election for the support he gave to Trump by keeping silent on the tarriffs for weeks, the he went from Canada is broken to Captain Canada, the general public saw right through this guy.
Well I do not agree that there should be 91 candidates on the ballot but that in itself did not have him loose his seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
But if we are talking about electoral misconduct, how about PP and his dear wife on CBC television at 11.15am the other day casting their votes " they are both seen getting their ballot cards together and then together both are in a single booth marking their cards.
This is is direct contravention of the electoral rules "voting must be done in secret" "you enter the booth by yourself"
Pretty bad to vote for a guy who does not even know the procedure for voting in Canada.
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Originally Posted by genec
Yeh this was way beyond the acceptable limits of a peaceful protest, this was an occupation. Its to bad the Chief of Police was a paper pusher and not a street Cop, I do know him personally.
Billy Blair who I also know personally would have given those protesters a few days, the had the boys come in, have the mayor read the RIOT ACT and locked them up.
They were lucky Justin was patient and went overboard to allow them the time they occupied that downtown, but when you then close off the border to trade and have a public outcry, thats when they had to be moved on.
Now by all rights if the left in Canada decide to protest in Calgary for instance against the oil companies, the right should now also afford them the same latitude and allow them to shut the downtown of Calgary or maybe Fort Mc Murray for a few months. What is good for the Goose and all that...
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and this is how threads go off the rails. Want to discuss pro/anti gun candidates great. Lets keep party bashing out of it.
It'll be really interesting to see the government reaction when Alberta and Quebec (especially, if Nathalie is appointed as a cabinet minister) finally decide that enough is enough and pull the plug.
FFF, this thread was brought up by a respected member here. We as hunters and responsible gun owners should be aware of this issue. It’s always the same people that derail a perfectly legitimate topic.
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yes and that's why the reminder to discuss the thread topic at hand, just keep it respectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregger17
blah blah blah heavy handed mod blah blah. Its a thankless job but we try do the best we can
Provost isn't in cabinet yet and even if she is it's not worth panicking about. There are plenty of equally anti-gun Liberals in the government, RCMP and civil service. One more won't matter.
I think you’re doing a heck of a job FFF. Me think you might get really busy..blah blah blah lol. Hunting and firearms related issues are why I’m here though.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
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Say,speaking of,has anyone decided to include a "like" button on this forum? I don't really see a downside.Quote:
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Nope not yet but her name was splashed around on the Globe and mail the other day along with another climate activistsQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Its might be a concern if some idiot does something stupid. With some firearms that hasn't yet been banned yet.
All guns can be used to assault someone. My FIL thinks nobody should own them unless you hunt and then still should be limited a single shot so nobody can go on a shooting spree.
Do we blame the black suv for the tragedy that unfolded last week? Or the person behind the wheel . Shootings should be no different it's the person responsible not the tool they used. Unfortunately we blame the tool rather than the person when it comes to firearms.
1 is all it takes for the law abiding citizens to loose their privileges. We should rid all the activists from government lol some of them have have large friends.
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No but already there is a review in progress for harm reduction namely the need/requirements for measures to prevent/minimize such incidents from happening again.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
So when it comes to firearms how do we balance individual rights and society protection. Fair question how many shots are reasonable for hunting and too many for civil harm reduction?
Do you really think criminals—like gang members—are going to obey magazine capacity limits?
Since the Trudeau government came into power, gun violence involving criminals has noticeably increased. Instead of cracking down on lawbreakers, the focus seems to be on targeting law-abiding gun owners.
Maybe it’s time to get serious about keeping violent offenders behind bars.
Take the tragic case of the Nova Scotia shooter. Trudeau initially claimed the firearms were sourced from Canadian hunters and farmers. That turned out to be false—the killer had smuggled them in from the U.S. Even worse, the RCMP had received multiple reports that this individual had illegal firearms, and that he had even built a near-perfect replica of a police cruiser—yet they failed to act.
This wasn’t just a local policing failure. The RCMP reports to the federal government. That means accountability ultimately rests with Ottawa.
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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
As with most things the is never one solution to a problem it involves change from all contributary sources no mater how small or large the perceived impact. Yes if the rules are not followed or being followed harsher and harsher consequences should be invoked until compliance achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
the amount of effort and money spent on harassing law abiding gun owners could be much more effective it focused on criminals and illegal guns. It just proves to me that while they claim its for public safety, in reality its for political gain and the goal of ultimate disarmament of civilians.
Punishing good people does not stop bad people. In less than 20 years semi and pump shotguns will also be banned.
I already had predicted the last gun grabs on here years ago.
The ultimate end game of the Liberals is to fully ban all firearm ownership. This was a said by Allan Rock
April 25, 1994, he was quoted as saying:
"I came to Ottawa with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers
The Liberals are well on their way to accomplishing this.
The majority of those guns that were banned were 223 cal not even as powerful as most deer and moose rifles, mostly adequate for yotes, possibly deer if your a crack shock.
It won't be long now before many of the firearms range club start closing with out handguns many will be finished.
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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I hope your right that we get 20 years, somehow I think it will be much less than that and we will be hunting with bows and air guns (if were even trustworthy enough to have those). Then again with the knife bans in Manitoba, we might not have knives to butcher with either.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Don't forget our scope mounted "sniper"rifles. They'll be next.Quote:
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