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I went to the farm where I hunt deer,,,,,to put out some salt....the farmer told me that a coyote was carrying away a 40 lb. young lamb at 9;00 am in the morning 4 days ago,,,,,,,,,,,,he managed to chase it off and recover his lamb//////do I go and try to call it in and kill it,,,,,,,is the question?? it might be a female???
I will go with general consensus of the gang on this web site.........I dont want to get shot down
I would guess that if you were to shoot a coyote for the farmer it would give him a little bit of revenge feeling and probly give you a atta boy. Unfortunately it might be a mother tending her pups, that will have to be a personal choice of yours. I personally would have no problem helping the farmer protect his animals and lively hood.
I would take it out personally. I guarantee the farmer wants it gone.
Take it, don't second guess or judge your self......
I would shoot EVERY coyote if it was killing livestock no matter the time of the year.
A mother that brings back livestock to her den teaches her pups that they are free game as well.
I think it's your duty to help the farmer. if you kill one of the yotes the other might set up a den some where else saving the farmer from a lot of misery. Brent
Just curious. Why would you feel like a hypocrite? This is about predator/pest destruction,pure and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
I wrote in few weeks ago and said let them live until weaned>>>>>>>>Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
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Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
Oh! Sometimes stuff comes back to bite us,doesn't it? LOL You could always go back and delete your previous post. Not to worry.
The only good coyote is a dead coyote. Sure it sucks if she a mom with pups.. But we have WAY too many yotes as it is... Shoot em on site.
I'd say since the farmer is letting you deer hunt on his property, you kinda owe him one here... He's just trying to feed his family and pay the bills. Makes it hard when his sheep keep going missing.
Baby yotes turn into adult yotes....why would anyone think twice about killing them when they are babies ?
Wait till they're weaned before you kill them..why ??
sounds like a bad case of 'Disney' syndrome :)
You should let it live ....... just long enough to get off a good shot !
Even though this hotel could be female and could have pups it doesn't matter IMO. You wont hurt the population the way lots of us wish it would.
Good chance the pups are weened already anyhow.
coyhunter... I hear what you are saying.... I too like to wait until they are weaned before targeting them on purpose but if the farmer has a problem with them now I wouldn't hesitate.... That being said if the farmer is in no panic or is okay with waiting (you know your farmer better than anyone of us) then I would wait until the end of June before hitting them that way the pups have a good chance of surviving on their own.... Bottom line...wait if you can but don't hesitate if you can't.... either way you still good in my books.. :)
Yeah, I'd be pulling the trigger without hesitation on that one. If its snagging farm animals, mother or not - help a farmer out and get rid of it.
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Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
Generally that is ok, But this ones are going to be weaned on to Sheep and Lambs. Think about the first foods your mom gave you.. Which ones do you go for at dinner time? Teach them livestock are Dangerous to be near.
Why wait? The farmer has 1 coyote problem! In a few months he could potentially have about 8 times more of the same problem.
Do the right thing and help him out.
Shoot it
Shoot it, you owe the farmer
They raise their young as a pack and not individually.
Don't have to feel bad about killing the offending adult.
There isn't any closed season on yotes.....................shoot them year round!!
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Originally Posted by impact
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The coyote is preying on his lambs which are his livelihood. Shoot every one you see. Coyotes are ruthless opportunist predators. That yote will kill everything he can, livestock , pets anything they can catch.
I hear you here. If you feel unconformable check with the farmer and see what he wants. I'm not in war with yote either, we just share the same dinner at the spot..... IMO, both way is okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
Same here. Farmer before Yote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guelph1981
Yep I would try and take it out but it's a personal descision you have to make.
When they destroy livestock this time of year, I simply explain the situation to the farmer and let him decide my course of action. Haven't seen a sympathetic farmer yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
i wouldn't feel bad for having mixed feelings. it means you're a human being.
what you're doing however, isn't really hunting for sport as much as pest management. mice in a trap have babies. heck, i remember a friend had a raccoon taring apart his shed and after shooting mom, 3 more shots fired off for the babies...
sounds cruel, but thats the farming life.
Pop it.
Last time I checked, the coyote population wasn't in decline.
Taking game management attitudes towards species that don't need to be managed is silly.
I didn't even hunt coyotes until a farmer asked me to. I shoot groundhogs on his land, and as soon as he told me about losing a sheep to one, I felt I owed him...so I did. I wasn't successful, but the coyote(s) never came back either. Maybe seeing my fat a** in the tree line with a .223 put them off. :)
Had this conversation recently online too ABOUT groundhogs, and whether or not you should wait until the young are weaned before shooting adults. From a hunting perspective, more targets=better. But, I personally find it a bit disingenuous to be granted permission to rid their property of these things and then pass on shot opportunities for the sake of my own "sport".
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Yep,X2. IMO,these two posts are right on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrouseWhisperer
I went out this morning..........got all set up,,,,,,,,,my electronic caller didnt work,,,,,,,,,,I checked it last night it was fine......Fixed it with a screw driver after I got home,,,,,,,,,I saw a large coyote about 1 1/2 miles from the farm........to many houses in neighbourhood.I passed up....................will try tonight if rain stops
Great decision,you did the right thing. Brent
Went out tonight (wed}.......called for 25 min..... then the rain came again.........saw nothing........oh well thats hunting
You will get him sooner or later. The farmer will be really happy to know you arent just out for your own enjoyment and you are doing your part to look after his interests. Good on ya! Looking forward to the pics :) good luck
Im as "pro coyote" as anyone on this board, but when a yote is stealing livestock its time to for it to go. No question. Hunt without remorse.
If it was running away with a 40lb lamb, I'm thinking it has to be a large animal, so most likely a male.
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Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
I have never had luck with distress this time of year. Just too much food out there for them. Maybe some pup squeals and barks. I know where a den is right now, Farmer said he can hear them down the hole.
I tried the pup squeals etc alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by SongDog
i definately wouldnt let it walk on my farm, or at the inlaws, even if the pups were with it...
couple years back at the inlaws farm we were haveing a bear problem, kept knocking down the fences, and one of the horses got a mysterious wound on it, we think potentially from the bear... well low and behold i look out the window and there is a sow with a cub out in the field about 100 yds from the horses... so i grabbed my rifle and started walking down the road, i wasnt even gonna shoot the bear just was gonna fire some shots off to scare it away, and the neighbour came out yelling at me that i couldnt shoot it because it had a cub, well she didnt like my response... i told her i was planning on shooting the cub 1st lol, then said i could shoot it if i wanted as its a nuisance but i am choosing not to. (funny fact is her husband just got charged with poaching a deer out of season) couple shots into the ground near the bear and she never came back.
Legal and doing a good deed. Help a farmer, retain the right to hunt...seems all good to me... No guilt here.