Not impressed with the 4 "new" crossbow models. Too many similar models. Are they going to do a late release?
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Not impressed with the 4 "new" crossbow models. Too many similar models. Are they going to do a late release?
I like the Micro 355. 20fps faster & a black rail & riser. It's about time they went black, the grey rail & riser is fugly..... I know the black will show scratches but deer won't care....
Will I sell my current Micro & upgrade. Probably.... :)
The bull-dog is cool too.
The other new bows I would not even give them a second look but they will appeal to some entry level hunters.
NOt impressed??? man have you shot the micro lol its a thing of beauty I had a phoenix as well and not that you can complain about any Excalibur really...but the micro is quite an amazing little bow in my opinion...what more do ye need...compact, fast, quiet, accurate and will take any game in Ontario.
Never shot one but heard good things about tenpoint as well.
355 on the micro.
That's a lot of stress on the small limbs. A lot of the matrix (or whichever it is) have limbs blowing up..
Also going to make it harder to clock (remove the L) , which at 335 is very noticeable compared to their standard bows.
Same old debate (lets not) on whether or not a small increase in fps is really worth it.
Not sure why people feel the wheel needs to keep being re-invented, or the need for the newest and bestest. Love the micro as is and I feel zero need to upgrade.
The micro will handle anything you dare shoot it at. Nicely, in a handy compact pkg.
The micro 335 is a fine crossbow. Never said anything bad about it. Just changing the colour of the rail & 20fps or making lesser speed models so close in the group isn't impressive IMO. Did they really need to do this? Wish they would have given options with different colour/camo patterns & adjustable stock/forearm handle, upgraded cocking aid etc. Looking at other forum how these crossbows have been customized (by their members) makes me wonder why these customized ideas weren't looked at & reconsidered as available from factory?Quote:
Originally Posted by twostroke
The real test is if these bows with a 290 pound draw weight can last over 5 years. I not so sure Excalibur is pushing the envelope here with such a high draw weight. I have a buddy with a 405 which is a year old and the limbs have been replaced twice. I have an older excalibur with a 200 pound draw and will not upgrade. If I want a compact crossbow I would own a compound crossbow which I do. The real test will be time and both buddies had the new matrix bows and both had there limbs replaced . The 355 once and the 405 twice.. What is next 350 pound draw weight for 405 mini. My compound crossbow which is a stryker ls 390 only has a draw of 150 pounds and shoots upto 390 and is more compact.Quote:
Originally Posted by robster
Please keep me posted when you do. I'd be interested in snagging that 335. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
Time will tell. I have a 405 that has been used for 2 seasons and has about 200-250 shots on it with no issues. That being said I kept my exomax as an emergency backup just in case the limbs decide to go south on the 405.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
My Exocet is still going strong. I kept it as a loaner for my dad & friends which has got many of my buddies into archery hunting & success filling their tag. Out of date or style by most but reliable & has taken a lot of deer. My Exomax is a keeper as well. Rock solid no issues. I've tried out matrix-micro models that my friends have but haven't felt the need to upgrade $$$ & since my equipment never caused me any issues. Yes the limbs are wider & that's the only problem when walking in the dense stuff. Now if they made hybrid with micro limb set (narrow width) with matrix stock I would. Better feel for me when holding wearing hunting gear. Feel the micro stock butt/grip-trigger/forearm grip are too compact. Like a youth model shotgun/rifle. They even changed the grip position on the new bulldog. Wonder how will you hold the dry fire release & then the trigger when uncocking?Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
It would be nice if they would sell the bow with options for the scope, stock, string and trigger. My 405 sports all after market components for these parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by robster
While in camp last year (2014) for the last week of archery (Dec 7-15).
Two guys had their matrix limbs shatter.
I made the upgrade from an Eclipse which on paper is the same as a Micro. Factory 335 fps.
Despite the heavier broadhead (Micro 150g, vs Eclipse 125g) the Micro shoots slightly faster.
Beyond just being smaller/lighter to lug through brush. Its worlds easier to swing onto your target when in a stand, (how many get busted raising/swinging bows)??
or in a ground blind, etc
To me, those are the "pluses" and reason for upgrade. The wee gain in fps was just gravy.
Con? Its a little harder to clock. I highly doubt I would clock it in the stand, the Eclipse if I felt I really needed to, I could.
There are limits imo to how much stress the limbs can take, and Excals higher bows are running into them. Who knows, whether or not the new micro will start running into the same problems.
Hopefully not.
guess its all in the personal preference I can see your point on some of the upgrades as well......I made the switch tot he micro for a few reasons more room in the blind while taking the kids on the outing with me .....as well as I dig the thumbhole stocks and the micro just seem to fit me really well. I loved the phoenix I had to, but def have no desire to get rid of the micro. Dropped a nice big ol freezer doe 4 days into bow season this yr with it and seemed to do the trick. Was easy to maneuver out of a treestand to get a good undetected shot........If I upgrade anything it may be the bolts, but the Easton quills that came with it actually flew and patterned real nice for me, heard others didn't have the same luck.
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Originally Posted by JBen
Uh oh....... How come we never hear about the Excalibur products failing !!! You had 2 guys both have their Excalibur shatter?!?!? Say it isn't so!!!!
I have a few buddies who have all upgraded to the micros . one buddy after only having his bow for a month had the limbs on his micro shatter while the other guys have had nothing but good things to say about theirs.
Excalibur are excellent about warranty work but at some point you can exceed the design capacity of the recurve limbs. Time will tell if they have overdone if with the Micros.
I think it's a pretty small percentage overall but Excalibur limb failures are not unheard of. Check this thread for example:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie Hastings
http://excaliburcrossbow.org/phpBB2/...d2045d#p561382
I'll stick with my plain old brown Exocet. Plenty of other things I could drop a grand on to "upgrade"...lol
They have re designed a new front end. Both times his shattered while he left them cocked. Not a dry fire but just when they were left cocked. They are accurate as hell and both times they replaced the limbs at no cost.. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
I had to have the limbs on my matrix 380 replace right off the get go. Two years on the new limbs and they are still going strong, fingers crossed:)
2016 ATA reps states the micro-355 retails for $1099.00. Are they priced the same or does U.S-Cdn conversion have to be considered?
I far as I can tell..... They are priced the same....
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Originally Posted by robster
I'm having a chuckle reading all of this. I'm still shooting a Wolverine ! I think this might have been the first xbow they made.
I've got a buddy who has been hunting with a Wolverine since around 1990. Still killing deer with it every year. The Wolverine was actually the second model they made, the Relayer was the first. I'm still using the same Phoenix I've had for the last 10 years. I still think the older Exo series bows are a lot nicer to shoot than the new Matrix or Micro bows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
At one time or another I've been able to take a few shots with most of Excalibur's offerings over the years. I shot a borrowed Micro and REALLY liked it! If I was buying my first crossbow now I would definitely get a Matrix or Micro from the lower end of the available speed range (310/315). Having said that, none of those bows have yet convinced me to replace the Exocet 165 that I've been shooting for 20 years.
http://excaliburcrossbow.com/catalog/crossbow/micro_355 they also have a micro that shoots 315 and 305. They 355
has a 280 pound draw weight...
Micro actually comes in 3 models now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
315 Camo only
335 Camo & Black
355 Camo only
The 355 has a 280lbs draw weight. I can't wait to get mine but it will be a bear to load... LOL
http://excaliburcrossbow.com/catalog...atrix_sapphire . They also have a 305 model and 400 model which are not called a micro but sure look like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
The sapphire 305fps and the bulldog 400fps are Matrix limb based bows. We will never see a Micro that shoots 400fps.
Jeff
Would you make a bet on that. My guess if the 355Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
micro is a success you will see a 380 micro next year. The 400 has a 280 pound draw and 14 inch power stroke. That will be a bear to pull back. Watched a youtube video on it and looks like they redesigned the front end. Guess they are still learning about the limitations on their new limb designs.
LOL
Never say never I guess.
To bump the Micro up to 380fps that would require approx 293lbs of draw weight. I say good luck on that one not for me... :)
have the matrix 330, have approx. 20 shots thur it and no issues, I like the micro for compactness
I was a sail today and they indicated all the crossbow prices for Excalibur are going up. The bulldog was nice at my hands but for the price tag of 1199 plus tag I am still happy with my Excalibur exclipse xt which I picked up used for 560 shipped with a bag, extra broad heads and bolts.
I was in Basspro in Niagara Falls today and the micro was 999...that's a 100 more than I seen it a couple of months ago...It must be from our poor Canadian dollar...
Micro 355 $1099.00 plus tax... Pricey but if you want to play you must pay... LOL
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I had a phoenix then exocet and now own a matrix and is seems to be a lot cheaper feeling, I know they had to give a little to make it lighter etc but it just doesn't feel the same!! I do like the compactness
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Originally Posted by TPM
Looks like a Boo string on there and a leupold scope. I think you have more than $1099 into that set up. Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
So, is that 335 for sale? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by awndray
The Micro 335 has found a new home as of yesterday. Thanks for asking... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by awndray
Will after digging around I may pick up a bulldog. If I going to pull 280 pounds and get a work out I may as well shoot close to 400 fps. If I pick this bow up I will be shooting at minimum a 400 grain bolt with broadhead. Just wondering if anyone can recommend a good 150 grain broad head.
Bolt cutter
That is a very fine set up. Looks like a great combo and upgrades. Nice looking bow and scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Meh, my new to me Exocet 200 will to 375fps with a fastflight string and 350gr bolt combo. 350fps with the 400gr bolt and 150gr boltcutter on the front. Not so bad for "Old tech". Wider and bigger but not really an issue in a tree stand
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Originally Posted by be2man
You must have done some mods to that old bow like extending the rail. Here are the specs on that bow from the factory.
Velocity: 330 FPS Draw Weight: 200 lbs. Power Stroke: 15.5" Mass Weight: 6.4 lbs. Overall Length: 38.5" Arrow Length: 20" Arrow Weight: 350 Grains Stock Type: Traditional Finish: Realtree Xtra Arrow speeds obtained using arrows with a total weight of 350 grains (includes arrow and tip).
Maybe it is on steriods. Even with an upgraded string you would be lucky to push 325 with 100 grain head.Quote:
Originally Posted by be2man
Don't know what it is about it. Took it to "The Bow Shop" after I bought it and added the Fast Flight Flemish twist string and it chrono'd there at 375fps with a 350gr bolt total wt. Changed out to a 150gr point and it was at 350fps with a 400gr total bolt wt. Dialed the scope to 350fps setting and its bang on for the hash marks out to 50 yards. I could likely get George to witness an affidavit if you'd like.
The fast flight string is supposed to add 25-30fps. Must have some extra snap in addition to that.
That is impressive.
A 330fps factory bow shooting faster than most new Matrix 380 bows. That is a keeper... :)
Took my one bow in to the bow shop about a month ago to see if my chrono was accurate , they told me I could try it ( their chrono ) but said theirs is broken and show's everything faster than what it should be as for the scope setting's their usually close some better than other's but seldom dead on.Quote:
Originally Posted by be2man
Haha! well that might explain it. It was last fall that I was there. Will have to go back when they have it fixed or a new one. The guy who chronoed it didn't think it was unusual. I thought it was pretty fast for what I was expectingQuote:
Originally Posted by Exo200
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...th-Octane-case. Great deal on cdn nutz for a micro.