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http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08...onalist-rally/ - people pay good money to see two guys beat each other up in a wire cage - UFC - what they should do is put a cage around the demonstrators and we could all watch - there is a war going on right now for the heart and soul of America -
Seeing that protestors were run over by a guy in a car (See ISIS tactics) and that only 1 side was prepared for a war I think you are a little backwards.
Don't worry, I already know what side of the war you will be on, please stay down there and stay away from our Country.
Hey Joe, you are more then welcome to visit me in our country of Canada, the Liberals are letting everyone in anyway.
Cheers!
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I hope the US will take us in as this country is down the drain.
Have people from each side sign up for a cage match. That would be a crowed pleaser.
I will take bets on which country implodes first. I have to ask ...which country has the highest quality of life for the majority of its citizens, not in the world but in North America?
I can feel your angst Joe. It is a very traumatic situation. God is still in control. Many here are praying for you Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
edit: PS.... Posted this way , because I know where Joe stands.
Bonaire or the British Virgin Islands - JMO.;);)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Neither is in N.A. . Sharon....Prayer has NEVER worked anywhere, anytime, before, so good luck with that approach. I take that back, prayer once found a set of keys.
I hate to say this but, I think " he lost control a long time ago " or the world wouldn't be in the situation it is in now .Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Somebody failed geography. They most certainly are as is most of the caribbean. You could have got me by saying neither is a sovereign country as they are technically colonies/territories.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Sorry I was wrong , I knew they were part of the Caribbean but just assumed that they were not considered part of N.A. my bad. But I think you know who I was talking about , and I could argue on many fronts that we do have a better standard- quality of life than any Caribbean country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Hence my winky emoticons. Of course I knew who you were talking about and do not disagree with the statement that we have it the best in N.A. Your overly broad choice of words just gave me an opportunity to have some fun at your expense. Next time if you mean Canada/US/Mexico than say that. N.A. includes many more places than just those three and depending on the criteria you are using for comparison one of the 40+ other countries or territories may have us beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Well, we can't get into a religious discussion on here, but we do see things in an enclosed small time bubble. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
Oh I knew I had stuck my neck out . :) No religious discussion allowed on here so I can't get into it with you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Why should God make things nice on earth when so many shake their fist at Him - things are the way they are because of sin - Christians realize that this time on earth is only temporary - just passing through like a vapor - here today - gone tomorrow - if everyone on earth followed the teachings of Jesus none of this bad stuff would happen - but no - people want to do their own thing and you can see the result - don't blame God - blame yourself - gay marriage - abortion - stealing - cheating - rape - sexual immorality - etc. - and you expect God to bless everything - come on man - give me a break -
Racism is ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
I personally do not know any gay people who are married who are as destructive as many straight couples who remained married due to religion, so to eat their own I guess.
I know I will burn in Christian hell though, it will be nice to have things a little warm finally, this summer has been ridiculous.
What does racism have to do with discrimination based on sexual orientation? Sexual preference has nothing to do with race last i checked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
The lefties were armed to the teeth and they arrived that way, so you are mistaken about your assertion that only one side was/arrived armed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
The counter protesters were armed with blow torches from spray cans, soda cans filled with cement and of course the handy, get by the police security, water bottles they could throw.
The idiots (the so called "right"), namely the KKK, Nazis, etc. are not supported by the right nor Trump. They are reviled and have hijacked a middle class movement on the right that loathes the policies of the left for economic issues.
Just as here in Canada, the left has targeted the right and the middle class for extinction thru their looney political agenda. The right cares not about race, they are literally fighting for their economic survival against the mental illness displayed in the left's governmental policies, many of which are ILLEGAL.
The middle class "right" doesn't want or need a bunch of idiots and thugs like the nazis/kkk trying to claim some kind of "brotherhood" with the angry middle class because the anger is about jobs, economy and financial survival.
I have watched the black race in the States go from a legitimately supported proud group in history go from Rosa Parks' accomplishment to self destruct to the scum of Michael Brown and Black lives Matter. They are destroying their proud history and progress of MLK and stooping to violence and criminality JUST LIKE THE NEO NAZIS, KKK, ANTIFA, etc.
No one supports the likes of Charlottesville except the left and MSM. You never saw the hateful and legitimate blame towards Obama, Hillary, and Sanders for the infinite list of transgressions, cover ups, attacks on conservative voters/business owners, race riots etc.
Charlottesville was a fringe uprising of the KKK, Neo Nazis AND the BLM, Antifa, anarchists. Both arrived armed to the teeth and the police were directed to stand down for the most part by a liberal Mayor/Governor unless a situation of imminent death occurred.
Basically the same standing orders as is present in Berkeley California.
Which brings up my main point.....The LEFT is the violent party time and time again.
The President of the Univ.@ Berkeley has had escape room/doors built into his office as reported by the MSM due to the campus violence. Well guess what, they allow NO right leaning people in their echo chamber of a campus so who is the Univ. of California @ Berkeley President scared of?
It's the looney left, the real violence in the US, that's who he is fearful of, who he is installing the escape doors to protect himself from. It's the left that is the most publically violent. After all who shot the Congressman from Louisiana? Oh yes, it was the violent left again.
So please don't associate some idiots like the KKK and Nazis( that are hijacking an uprising of the legitimately harmed MIDDLE CLASS), to anyone on the right.
Race is not THE issue of the middle class, the economy is.
Amen Skypilot
Hey Fox - show me where Jesus said that racism was ok - he preached just the opposite - and don't look at what people do and then judge the religion that they claim to follow - look at what the religion teaches and then judge the religion on that basis -
The bible outlines the teaching of Christianity - read the new testament and maybe you'll get an idea what I'm talking about -
Once again Skypilot , a great post , tell it like it is !https://www.oodmag.com/community/ima...ns/thumbup.png
The alt left loonies had everything their way during the 8 years of Obama much to the suffering of the middle class. Tons of SJW BS, business regs, OSHA, IRS, EPA and the 16 intelligence agency spying.
Now that Trump is President, the left can't stand it that Hillary lost. Couple that with the fact Trump tells it like it is, the fringe right NOW feels like they have the floor to push back and ramrod their opinions, just like the left did for 8 years.
I know of NONE that support neo nazis/KKK and the like. All the people I know thought we took care of that crap in the 1940s and the 60s.
Just remember recent history and the left /right struggle in Germany. Seems it gave rise to a Monster and his party. That is the danger of the fringes.
I do know this for a fact, US history has proven time and time again that Americans are not loath to pull the pin and see what's on the other "side." The Civil War comes to mind.
Destroying/removing history, denying the past and attempting to dictate the present will change nothing and only create an even sharper and more stark division for which many would stand against.
Sounds strangely familiar doesn't it, sort of like the current playbook of ISIS and the Taliban of today eh?
Being informed and seeing the truth is powerful.
Thank you.
This is what is going on - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/18...h-threats.html - it will only be a matter of time before the right starts shooting back -
Let me get this straight. A bunch of neo-nazis and white supremists WITH a parade permit,exercising their civil rights,was attacked by a bunch of armed,organized,leftist democrat ding-a-lings WITHOUT a permit to prevent them from doing what the US Constitution guarantees them the right to do and all the main stream media,leftist liberal democrats think this was OK. Does no one see the irony and hipocracy of the whole thing? Only in America........
When you start labeling people as extremists it is so easy to become an extremist yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Let's change one group to sportsmen/women and the other to Anti's. 1) Which group has the right to not be attacked? 2)Which group do you think is most likely to violently attack the other? 3)Which group do you think is most likely to have "Conservative" views?
Answers:
1) BOTH groups should be able to "SAFELY" express their option.
2) The Anti's use Violence as their preferred method of dealing with any one that does not have the same option as them.
3) Easy answer The Sportsmen/women.
Lots of irony here!! I have to commend Skypilot on his response. Very insightful.
I agree with your point and your facts. Many people do not get the truth in their news, don't want the truth and refuse to see the truth of a situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
There WAS, there IS and there HAS been for some time, WAY more violence instigated by the left.
However, there are several issues being blurred into left/right, racial/nonracial, etc.
Some of those statues are war heroes, significant historical persons and/or founding fathers. Perception doesn't/won't change those facts regardless of how they are viewed.
Removing those statues causes unnecessary alignment, resistance and the emotions and dogma that go with one's historical heritage.
It is one thing to be opposed to racism and another to attempt payback. People can accept that racism is wrong yet see statues as legitimate history and for them to be used as an origin of discussion and teaching of racial equality, no different than Rosa Park's statue in the Capital.
Removing representation of one's past history will not further goodwill between all peoples and only forces division.
The old saying "you can't make your candle burn brighter by blowing out mine" comes to mind.
Amen, the left would have you believe they invented the 1st Amend on free speech yet will do anything to suppress it(as viewed at UOC Berkeley, etc) if one has an opinion contrary to their hive mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
However, they filter "free speech thru the lens of identity. An LGBT black woman will always have more free speech "right" than a white male before a word is uttered because the left sees a white male as less experienced in being black, gay, female, etc and therefore unworthy to speak with validity on those experiences.
The illogical assumption that one must live an event to understand it is a throwback type logic that society left in the dark ages, where you could only know it if you did it.
Thank God some of us can learn in other ways today and even discuss it.
One thing that would help is a news channel that's not pumping out lies.
I found myself wondering if my tv remote can block cnn.
Someone needs to find out who is paying for the news and the protesters.
Just a couple of memes to stir the pot.....[emoji1]
The last one is the only acceptable time an American should ever hold a nazi flag, IMO.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2bd8016a96.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cc9d88ab8a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a3eacfe860.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...35396edaaf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6951184166.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a3307588cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e57b53f58b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...532fef5a70.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e816f757e4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...067fcde053.jpg
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Back on for 5 mins and OMG I have been missing out!!!! I have missed (some) of you guys ;) Excellent discussion.
I was on a trip to China a few years back and it was the only English channel .... AUGH ... but the funny thing is it would go blank any time a story they censors didn't like .... I get the feeling that the current CNN if there was a truth filter it would resemble the eclipse today .... just a bit of light around the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
https://www.almanac.com/sites/defaul...?itok=m2QlyD6O
When you look at some of the groups in the US right now it is rather pathetic. You see the alt-left rioting at Berkely when a Conservative went to speak etc. ... they remind me of someone .... oh yeah!!!
https://heisenbergreport.files.wordp...toon.png?w=700
Thankfully there are gems and some precious ones out there!
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/1...nalists-antifa
P.S.
More you won't see on Media Propaganda Machine .... unless it is small extracts out of context to attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htQk75a2XZE
Guaran-damn-teed Diamond &Silk will never be seen on CBC,CNN or any other of the main stream media.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Mosq, did you leave the rebel or stay with your buddy, ez?
Why would I leave them? For a project that started in his basement Ezra has done more to cover real news than CBC does with it's $105,000,000 per month in taxpayer handouts... over 850,000 subscribers on Youtube. Besides it is also so fun to watch the pathetic ideologues in the media and other idiots calling Ezra a Nazi etc. A Jew named Ezra Isaac Levant .... and they are calling him a Nazi etc. .... talk about brain dead! He actually covers both sides while the Media Propaganda Machine seems mentally incapable of covering the alt-Left and do nothing to accurately cover the alt-right without foaming at the mouth ..... The media chooses what we know and the MPM shows they are incapable of covering the news in an honest manner anymore. Just look at the pathetic coverage of ANTIFA .... masked thugs burning, throwing bottles, vandalism, stabbing etc .... if anything the alt-left is even more paranoid and violent than the alt-left, yet the media likes to call them counter protestors etc. instead of what they really are ... violent, intolerant, masked and incapable of intelligent actions..... essentially the definition of terrorist and criminals. Without proper coverage the impression that one group of as*h*** es is any better than the other group and the Rebel just does a better job.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
https://www.therebel.media/_conserva...e_the_alt_left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUXJh65aSoU
The tactics of ANTIFA for example remind me so much the brown shirts of 1930's German .... that and the plying one group against another, creating racial and cultural antagonism which worked for the National Socialist party and seems to be the model for the current Liberal party while they are crying diversity and racism all the while, killing openness, accountability, integrity etc ... then add in border security and LEGAL immigration all dead under the Liberals.... just "left" speak is allowed more and more, hug an illegal immigrant and terrorist ... seems like they were studying the book 1984 in their drive for power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8igrMJ9L4po
Or is it you don't like to hear both sides of the story? Were you cheering for the gov't in the book 1984?... or have you never read it?
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
fishermcann, I do believe you just had your butt handed to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
LOL.... Are you kidding me , Mosq is staying with a sinking ship. He will defend it to the end even when his own party want nothing to do with them. Why, because that rebel rag is now associated with him forever and not in a good way. Ez, when even your fellow founders abandon ship maybe you should get in a lifeboat. Mosq, tough question time... do you, or do not,..... support equality of ALL people? I do think that most of civilized society want a group to stand up and say,...... we are all equal, and we will protect that right with force against those who say everyone is not equal, and try to take that right away .
I guess I can repeat myself one more time since you are incapable of understanding .... our laws already give preference and even oppression to certain races, look at the Indian act for example, M-103 is ONLY Islamic and there are many prejudiced things in our f***ed up legal system.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Unlike the Liberal leader I think there are laws that should be followed and that people should be equal under the law.
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Originally Posted by mosquito
You know ... I think I already let these ladies answer my views... so I will let them talk again
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Originally Posted by mosquito
Once again, butt meet hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
This instantly comes to mind.......James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."
Anyway, All men are CREATED equal however their actions can contravene "principled responsibilities" that then lead to "due process" which determines how equal one is with regard to the totality of a sovereign society.
In the US(since it is recently relevant WRT current civil unrest) everyone one is collectively equal until one's actions brings one in contact with due process and that legal process can remove or affect all or parts of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
It is laughable that the left clings to its deceitful interpretation of "moral high ground" of "non violence", their view of "equality" and their censored view of free speech.
I understand quite well thank you. Do you not understand that racism is systematic. Everyone is against racism till they realize that white males will not be able to make all the decisions for the nation, then some ,( white), people want to end only some racist traits. It is-was obvious that the rebel was verbally backing the white supremacy movement. Who are you going to vote for now that the cons don't want your ilk .
SP anyone who uses bible quotes has no moral high ground on which to stand...... psalm 137:9....ad nauseum. The bible could be the least moral book ever written.
Don't you mean "systemic"?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
With these two posts,it seems that you've finally flipped out,completely. :whacked:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
All I want to know is who mosq. is going to vote for now?
That fact that you believe this is true is naive as heck, if you are white and have money you end up with a lower sentence in a conviction, they are not all treated equal, not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
For the moral high ground there is only one obvious choice ... and it is the only Federal party that actually had a woman as PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
That would also be the party that put in accountability for unions and reserves to reduce corruption and make them accountable to their members, that helped families reduce taxes and helped the most needy of refugees.
The obvious choice NOT to choose is the party that:
1) created protection for just one religion.
2) encouraged and allows illegal immigrants to enter indescriminantly
3) who's leader says one minority is better than the rest of Canadians
4) who's lied about debt and spending
5) who's leader admires a communist dictatorship that has historically killed as many as 50,000,000 and sent tanks to run over students killing many.
6) who's leader is a national embarrassment on things like ignored protocol and dragging one MP across the floor of Commons while elbowing a woman who was in the way and has taken about a dozen vacations.
7) Who made Union and reserves able to hide their spending again, dooming those trapped in unions and in reserves to corrupt unaccountable leaders
8) Who's leader used to take money from charities and school boards rather than help them...
9) a party that won't even allow a pro-lifer to run and lied about open nominations.
10) tax increases all over the place and the electricity policies with the leader's attitude to a woman that came crying to him about her bills and he essentially said suck it up and dismissed her.
I can go on and on about foreign contracts, supporters of terror in positions of power and the provincial part of that parties debt and waste, fuzzy sunny ways don't work when faced with realities and moral choices.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/08/21...-claim-to-help
etc.
Reminds me of the George Orwell quote “A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
Let's see one that helps people even though it is definitely a political animal it atleast makes logical and reasoned choices and one that thinks sunny ways and is ruining the economy and lives of so many ... easy choice, although as any group will be it is not perfect the choice is still the Conservative party.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
So what is your choice?
Well since you profess evolution as opposed to creation, which means you believe you are a descendent of a monkey, you have finally convinced me, you sir are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Boy, that is rich coming from you especially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
If you believe the white man is the root of all evil I have some more liberal propaganda/philosophy for you.
Not descended from but distant cousins. Science , is the answer to the religious. Proven facts not religious wishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Not the root, but a perpetrator.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Did science or monkeys align the sun, moon and earth yesterday?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
It is an extension of the Roman expansion, not just the white man but rather the one in power at the time in that location. Look back at the oppression of the Chinese by the Japanese, the European dictators, the British influence in the middle east, the Spanish expansion into the new world and the destruction of the native peoples there. In the US the rich white people get all the breaks, in Canada that is also mostly the case. Go out and ask a black man in the US if they have ever been afraid of the police, not talking gang banger but well educated middle to upper class American. Do the same for a white person of similar status and see how your answers work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
I talked to some non-white friends of mine from the East coast, there was a discussion about racism at their school and one white girl told the class that "There is no racism in Canada", she was promptly shot down by a non-white male with this simple response "You think that because you are white".
I really do not care what you think about it, look at the numbers. When doing so also look at the numbers for crimes in Religious based societies and secular based societies, the answer or morality may astound you.
That being said I know that you will not look up that data or read any of the studies, that is fine, that is your choice, your free will.
The universe works in mysterious ways, and none of them involve a deity.
Back in the day your kind would have sacrificed a couple of virgins and a goat. How did that work out?Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
"Equal Justice Under Law". That is what, at least in the US, the US law is about. The presumption of innocence(although that is skewed by the media too, at times) and equal justice by a jury of your peers.(and that too is misused OJ and Casey Anthony come to mind).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
On your comment about race, 65 years of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION is reduced to Black Lives Matter and Michael Brown. Pretty tragic I'd say.
On the Black/Police comment, look(I know you won't) at the crime rates vs proportion in that total population. That is why you see resources placed where they are and why those citizens have more interactive exposure.
In an imperfect world(which we live in) there will be instances of injustice when looking at the totality. That doesn't make the system rotten.
PEOPLE decided to find OJ and Casey not guilty. The system did what it could and then we must decide if it was just based on each individual's "principled responsibilities", not propaganda and emotion.
Don't confuse morality and religion. One can have some form of morality and no religion, yet one cannot really have religion without morality.
For religious folk, belief and faith is simply a contract to guarantee everlasting life, being moral on its own isn't.
Back in your day your kind would force them to all to marry and force a third party to bake them a wedding cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Are you kidding, some very religious people are constantly shown to have no morals.
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
In YOUR view .....
"Science brings men nearer to God." - Louis Pasteur
Dr Robert Kaita (Principal Research Physicist, Princeton Plasma Lab.) "One needs the Bible to understand science and science to understand the Bible"
"Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes" - Pope John Paul II
"If I had no other data than the early chapters of Genesis, some of the Psalms and other passages of Scripture, I would have arrived at essentially the same picture of the origin of the universe, as is indicated by the scientific data." Nobel Prize-winning physicist Arno Penzias (Big Bang Theorist)
" Many people have a very outdated picture of what science tells us about the world. " John Polkinghorne (Quantum Physicist and after retirement he became a Christian priest)
Or how about the head of the human gnome project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BcXyKB4ZmQ
I won't get into my testimony but in the end those willing to actually look with an open mind I find in the testimonies of men lik C.S. Lewis, Josh McDowell (he tried to prove atheism for two years and ended up a Christian), Malcolm Muggridge and or maybe Alister McGrath who Francis Collins has written about his writings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3vVIBcpOBk
But I think this sums it up, especially in the universe, DNA and cell complexity, protein synthesis etc in one statement ...
"There is no incompatibility between science and religion... Science shows that God exists." - Prof. Derek Barton, Nobel Prize Chemistry
.... and that is a surprise how? From Adam to King David to the apostle Paul we see human's failures and their redemption.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
VERY, for my view on that I essentially defer to the post above with Diamond and Silk ... with much more gusto than I could create :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
One last quote, as it is futile. If religious people could be reasoned with, there would be no religious people.
Ok, I'll play... and if there were less unreligious people there would be no need for a lot of things we have in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
This statement is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum, and there is a lot of crap that comes out on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Based on your statement an Atheist is the most evil person that has ever existed simply due to their lack of religion.
Like I thought, you would not go and read up on the correlation between religions countries and non-religious countries, or racism, as expected.
You are born without religion, given one at birth by your parents. Your religion is dependant on where you were born and to whom. It is an accident of birth nothing more nothing less. Those 50 thousand unbaptized children who died of starvation today are going to hell to appease a vengeful god, and YOU are alright with that.
Bingo, you explained the stupidity of it perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Then you need to reread some of the kiddie crap you post Fox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
There can be moral people than aren't believers or religious. Atheist believe in nothing by definition. Evil exist in the heart and ways of man and of this fallen world. Evil can be independent with or in concert with atheism as with anything else.
Prove my previous statement, that you quoted, wrong. Believers have faith in the covenant with God(a contract) that guarantees life after death as taught in the Bible. JUST being good and moral won't get you there. Only the belief and faith in Jesus and living a Christ like life will get you there per the Bible.
Are you seriously trying to tell me you know more about religion, beliefs and faith and how to get there other than through Christ?
Boy you are worse off and more in the dark than I imagined. Tell me, did your parents make you an atheist at birth?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The innocent go to heaven, they never had a chance to choose God or deny him.
Your kind aborted(murdered 5 million babies in the US alone that never had a chance)yet you whine about capital punishment for the wicked. Are YOU ok with that?
The 50 thousand you mentioned are not God's fault, it's people like you that support socialist regimes and dictators that prey on their people, rob their food and create the poverty. Look at your socialist Venezuela, they are starving. Blame that on God too or the stupidity of lefty lunatics?
So really, what are you mad at God about? Because you obviously believe in Him, you're just mad because you don't understand a fallen world and it's easy to blame Him. You adopt any kids? You feed any monthly with your contributions? Work with homeless teens to try and turn them around. Or just drum on like your buddy Fox?
Religion/choosing God is a choice one makes, it is a personal thing not something your parents give you, it doesn't work that way. Sure, they can provide guidance but even the Bible teaches we all are responsible for or own sins, not another's. Same with Salvation, I couldn't give you religion and salvation and your defiance about it makes you look foolish. If I can't force it on you how do you expect me to believe parents can force Salvation and a free ticket to Heaven on their kids?
There is no god! Period......
Even the devil/satan believes in God, He smarter than you?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
You can really tell they don't want to know about God... God cares but a just God doesn't ignore the sins of many.... and accident of birth .... for some but in the end all have the choice to look ... we see that in Josh McDowell, Alister McGrath, Nabeel Quereshi, Lee Strobel, Peter Hitchens (brother of Christopher), C.S. Lewis etc.
Jonah 4
11 Should I not care about the great city of Nineveh, which has more than 120,000 people who cannot distinguish between their right and their left,
Looking at those two let me ask a few questions and see what their answers are from an atheists point of view....
1) Is there a problem with 50,000 dying of starvation? Why? They don't affect you at all and their death may even be beneficial as there is less competition for resources on the global scale.
2) Assuming that there is a God and they do go to Hell (no Biblical evidence for this) ... once again God is the creator so what is wrong with his decision? What are you basing it on?
Seems to me you like to make absolute statements based on you desires and not the evidence... but there is still hope IF you choose it.
1 Timothy 2:4
Who wishes all men to be saved and [increasingly] to perceive and recognize and discern and know precisely and correctly the [divine] Truth.
Of course he is ..... but like those two his pride is his downfall. I'm not expecting an intelligible answer ... heck I haven't even got the answer to simple questions like who they will vote for.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
O well, there's always hope....If fox will give me a reading reference RE: that non religious secular societies are more moral I'll read it if he will read the book of James in the Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
No god, hence no devil. Easy peasy. Why should I care? Because the religious say everything is gods plan, yes even child molestation . Why pray if you can't change 'his', (has to be male?) plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Here's one of the reasons for systematic or systemic fallacy of racism WRT police action.....Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
About 70 percent of all FBI UCR Crime for 2015 was by Whites, which make up about that same percentage of the US.
About 27 percent of all FBI UCR Crime for 2015 was by Blacks, which make up about 12 percent of the US population.
See an issue? Blacks make up 12 percent but commit 27% of the US Crimes. So 2.25 times as much based on their population?
THAT is why resources are focused where they are. That's not racism by default, which seems to be your impression.
Nope, you find crime where you look for it. If you believe that one race of people is more likely to commit crimes, ( solely because of their race), than another race, then you are a racist.:ninja:
It isn't about belief, it is about data, as in past data. No one was just believing crime was happening, it WAS happening and laws were being enforced. That's why the stats. Blacks committed crime beyond what their population numbers should indicate.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
The data doesn't lie and that isn't racist. I try to fish were there is indications of fish, same with deer hunting. Does that make me a fishist or a deerist? Cops are hopefully were the crime is.
Well damn, its still crime being committed by whomever, in this case blacks. I would hope cops would look for crime wherever they go.So you saying if the cops quit looking, the crime rate will go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Boy you lefties are something.
Oh so blind....
You have no idea what you are talking about !!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
No answer, just evasion as usual, I have other things to do and wasting my time debating a rock (no answers just insults...) is a waste of time so I'm done with this thread atleast until later in the week if it hasn't been locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
But for you I think you will love how John Robson talks about how he tried to educate Liberals on the truth about Canadian Conservatism, yet they would never read anything he suggested even though he read the books they suggested... :shades:
http://fw.to/0cprSoi
Used to hang around with a couple of black guys in high school. Everyone smoked pot but the black guys used to give us white guys their baggie, why, because our pockets were never searched by the cops when they would show up. The black kids pockets were always searched and they were asked many more invasive questions than us. If you look you can find crime across all spectrums...if you look.
That explains a lot !!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yes... that crime stats can be skewed because of whom is looking for what. Self perpetuating much?
Mosq. you have faith, you do not need or care about facts. So what is there to debate?
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
You need serious help. You think the complete USA LE profession has cooked the crime numbers.?
Do you even believe the drivel you spew?
So if this insane conspiracy of yours is being done, A JURY OF YOUR PEERS is also in on it also along with all lawyers and Judges? And has been for decades?
Seek help while you can, if it's not already too late. I'm not even kidding.