Three sources from the party say Doug won. Christine wanted a recount and Mulroney took 4th place. Now they say recount is cleared and Doug won, from three sources.
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Three sources from the party say Doug won. Christine wanted a recount and Mulroney took 4th place. Now they say recount is cleared and Doug won, from three sources.
Right on. A true blue conservative with no hint of red. Just what this province needs, but it will be a long road back after the deep hole the liberals left us in. Plus he will be willing to take on the feds too on the carbon tax.
Cheers
Let the *ss kicking begin !
A real conservative ... of course any of them were much more conservative than Patrick don't let the door hit you Brown. Must be a nightmare for Wynne, someone that will hold her to account and speak straight answers.
Now let the antics begin, release the drones and the fiction writers!!! CBC and the Toronto Star are probably stocking up on tree climbing gear for their reporters so they can watch his back yard and are probably out offering $100 bills to anyone they think might have anything bad to say. The Union's will be whipping up a storm and funding ads like crazy as well as every leftie organization happy to see Ontario crash and burn.
Any bets they find (or make up) something like he smoked pot or something .... of course Justin admitted to using illegal drugs and is now legalizing them .... but facts won't matter to the Star and CBC if they think they can get the Liberal's back in.
Awesome. Way to go big Doug.
They still haven't made an official announcement. I can see them saying that they can't make an announcement at this time, and it could go to court. What a cluster f%7k. I'll stick with the three sources, but they sure are taking a long time to announce it.
The won't have to dig to find that he was a drug dealer years ago, but I guess that will make him a natural fit with experience when the province starts selling dope this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
seems they are trying to figure out a way to screw doug over if he gets in I hope he cleans house
All of them, other than Elliot wanted to extend the election. One, to allow the people that paid to vote, and a lot of people joined the party just to vote for Doug. Two, to stop a cluster f#$k like this. Now it appears Doug won and Elliot is pulling a hissy and calling for recounts. The party is terrified to allow Doug to be leader because he's going to drain the swamp. They're trying to get the fix in. Elliot is Hillary lite. Losing three times is a charm.
He has my vote. The shake up is needed. The mud will fly.
Are you suggesting that Ford wouldn't want a recount if he was within 1%? Especially with a new voting system.
He is going to make for a great opposition leader. Sadly we continue to embarrass ourselves as a party that can't get our together.
ford official winner clean it up buddy
In my email.... sounds good to me ... to use a tag I have seen a few times .... #NoLibs2018 AND #NoLibs2019 !!!!
Today is a new day for the Province of Ontario.
Today we move forward, united, with one singular purpose.
Today isn’t only about defeating Kathleen Wynne.
Today is about rebuilding Ontario to be the economic powerhouse of the country.
It’s about bringing new jobs, and new opportunities.
It’s about showing the province, the country, and the world, what happens when a strong, united, Progressive Conservative Party focuses on a single goal.
A single task.
To make Ontario the greatest place in the world.
Thank you for your support.
Doug
P.S. The real race has just begun.
Wynne Liberals have already started with the anti-PC attack ads. That only took 20 minutes. Why am I not surprised? Congratulations to Doug Ford and the Ford Nation team. Let the shyte kickin' begin. It'll be fun watching all the public service minions jump the Wynne-Liberal sinking ship.
Yup. It will be a bit hypocritical for Wynne to call him a drug dealer. Only difference between Doug and her is he wasn't unionized.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Wilson
He sold hash/cannabis as a teen which is common knowledge. Now he will be selling again as Premier of Ontario ;)
I'm sure he was never charged with dealing drugs. Any anecdotes is hearsay,therefore,useless rhetoric.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Neither was Patrick Brown, but here we are...Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
My biggest concern for Doug is, can he get non hard core true blue conservative women to vote for them? My wife says he acts and talks too much like Trump's. Right or wrong, if that's how women read him, we are in trouble.
Why would they jump ship? Their jobs may depend on the status quo.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Not sure it's a smart pick for the PC, the GTA is not going to vote for him ? And a sexual harassment accusation is on its way, that's guaranty!
Sexual harassment accusation? That's the principle weapon used against people,nowadays,isn't it? Unproven and usually unfounded,guaranteed it'll be only a matter of days,if not hours until someone,somewhere starts the bullshyte.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I agree. Wynne likely has a bunch of anonymous paid women ready to file charges. Although it looks like the #metoo movement is losing steam.
Do you guys think all those women are lying? You had better ask your wives and daughters, how often men , cross the line, and should be called out for it. My sister once told me, that every day, some male would approached her, and whisper, he would love to f... her. Is that wrong, definitely, but how do you prove it. Oh by the way she was a cop for over 30 years.
They'll need to find safe spaces.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Elliot it still challenging the results. Here's an idea, how about opening up the polls and letting everyone vote that didn't get a chance. I doubt she wants to do that since she was the only one that didn't want to extend the election. Pretty sure Doug would beat her by a larger margin if everyone that paid/signed up got their legal chance and right to vote.
Prove it or zip it. Scurrilous accusations for no other reason than political or financial gain MUST be stopped cold in their tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Well you do know some things can't be proven , but some people still believe it. e.g. god. How do you prove a whisper in the ear, or a pat on the rear, when no one else is around?
Ford Nation Lives!
First thing you see this morning is Golem up speaking in front of the OSSTF... the day after the Conservatives pick a leader .... let the Union attacks ads fly too!
You don't. You certainly don't destroy someone's career and life over it,either. That's flat out wrong on every level.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
I'm not a huge Patrick Brown fan but what they did to him was wrong on another note I'm very happy Doug Ford won. let's drain the swamp
It's beginning to show like she's a sore looser, I would say it would be in the best interest of the PC's and hers to accept the results and get on with the program. She is causing a waste of time and having a hissy fit which doesn't look good. Quit whining and hope for a good position would be a better move.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Liberals probably have Peter Faist on standby now
you can tell who is for the party and who's not Tanya granic allen at least stayed for supporting the pc party Elliot and Mulroney were gone
That didn't go unnoticed. Tanya just guaranteed herself a seat in caucus,although,she'll need to be elected at the riding level,first.Quote:
Originally Posted by deerslayer
Who he?? Oh,wait,wasn't he the hard drive scrubber? You could be right.LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by B Wilson
100% true. Elliot was having a sucky meltdown and Mulroney had to run home to get those bloody kids we heard about every 5 hrs to bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by deerslayer
Everyday, really? Sorry but now I'm kind of wondering what kind of attitude your sister has?! Unless is pure BS!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
No BS ,she was a beautiful woman, who worked with 5000 men, never mind the perps.
Elliot conceded to Doug.
Just received this email:
The pace of this Ontario PC leadership race has been rapid.
There have been a number of unexpected turns along the way.
That's why our team took the last twenty-four hours to review the results of an election that was incredibly close.
After completing my review, I am confident in the results.
I extend my congratulations to Doug Ford on a hard-fought campaign.
I have been a proud Progressive Conservative for over 25 years and my commitment remains steadfast.
As I have been saying every day during this campaign, Ontario needs us.
That is why I entered this race.
Ontario needs a Progressive Conservative government to finally defeat Kathleen Wynne.
I look forward to running as a candidate on the team that will form that government on June 7th.
My deepest thanks to the thousands of supporters and incredible volunteers across Ontario.
United, we WILL win.
Sincerely,
Christine Elliott
All the talk about killing the Carbon Tax and changing the sex ed for schools, was, well just talk. The PCOP still have the peoples pledge platform that they are running on. There is no time (maybe), to change it before June 7th. Even if they could it would involve a Policy Convention. That being said, why would they want to change it, as I am sure it will be kept and justified, because of the debt (by Wynne), to pay off the huge financial mess the Province is in.
SO the Emperor, has new clothes...but the plan to implement Brown's policies have not changed. That will be the Brown Legacy.
My daughter was trained in martial arts from a very young age as well as my sons. Word got around quickly in high school when she was sexually harassed by a student after she kicked him in the gonads and put him in an arm lock and planted him face down . Thankfully I was raised with six sisters as well an older brother and heard many stories from my sisters about the sexual harassment they received over the years. I always said when I have a daughter she will have the training to deal with these types of scumbags. She even had a high school teacher whisper under his breath calling her a *itch after he found out what had happened. She went directly to this teacher in the school hallway and said is that the way you speak to your wife when you don't get your way with her. He apologized to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Nonsense. Brown's legacy will be to rubber stamp Wynne's policies. He is a "red" Tory (and a flaming one,at that). In the next few weeks as a run-up to the election,look for a quantum shift in PCPO policies,the first will be to repeal The Green Energy Act fraud.Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
Didn't take long for the vice chairman / candidate for the Libertarian Party to attempt to discredit the new leader for the PC party... Who is it going to be more embarrassing to lose to Rob Ford or Kathleen Wynne?Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
Wynne could lose to rob ford.
I’ll be first in line to vote for Doug. He speaks great. Hope he can some of it done.
The further you get from the GTA this less support Ford will get.
On this forum the PC's have support but does the general public think the same way.
My guess is in the GTA the PC's will gain a few seats at the expense of other seats away from the GTA.
In some area's the PC's have no chance due to the make up of the population.
In others where PC's where close winners the Ford name will cost votes.
Not many Liberal votes will swing to Ford but more likely to the NDP.
The PC's have been very strong in rural Ontario, perhaps picking up the Ford nation support in the GTA will be the difference
Heard on 680 news today that it doesn't matter who the PC's leader is, they would have a majority with 44% and the NDP would be official opposition.
Also heard sound bites of Wynne fear mongering.
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by cramadog2
https://globalnews.ca/news/4077130/o...rty-doug-ford/Quote:
Despite those numbers, support for the party remains strong among decided voters, the poll found. If an election were held today, 44 per cent would vote for the Tories, while the NDP would get 27 per cent and Liberals would come in at 23 per cent.
Lick it Wynne.
“The PCOP still have the peoples pledge platform that they are running on. There is no time (maybe), to change it before June 7th. Even if they could it would involve a Policy Convention.”
Read what I said, they can change it..if the will is there, but without holding a policy (constitutional requirement), it can’t be done arbitrarily.
Identity politics will ensure you remain loyal to the “cause”, just long enough to hand over all the power you have on June 7th. On June 8th you are not needed anymore. They will have the power..I get it.
As long you continue to believe you have power after June 8th, you will be OK. Let me ask you, in the PCOP platform…are they changing property rights, curtailing the power of Conservation Authorities, are they protecting land owners from increasing powers to seize your lands. Jack MacLaren left the party to side with Ontario Land Owners Association (OLA). I guess if the most Democratic Party in (PCOP), actually believed that, they would have an official platform Plank to address this issue.
You see, I drank the coolaid of PCOP for 30 years, I have no ill will to them. But, the anger I see expressed here is exactly how you have been programed to think and react. I get, I was of the same view.
But to me, unless you/we have first rights over government, then you are part of the problem of ensuring you will never be control of your life. You will be bound the powers of the government..how is that freedom, how is that having control over the efforts of your work.
True freedom and democracy begins with individual rights, land rights, the power to control your property and the governments influence over your rights.
Our platform address all those concerns and rights. One in which you the people retain the power and control by giving authority over government over property, One that puts you’re the taxpayer in control of your tax dollars. A platform that has you control the funds and make choices what services you want. A platform the supports business innovation and attracts growth back to Ontario.
Doug Ford said yesterday, that he will offer tax credits to help businesses relocate back to Ontario, the reason he needs to say that is to ensure businesses need to approach government for these credits. But the real problem is over regulation, high hydro, high taxation and high labour costs which are making the province a place to not set up business.
We have 3 planks in our platform designed to bring businesses back and make Ontario a place to set up business.
Hydro
The Ontario Libertarian Party will cut your Hydro bill in half!
Here's how:
• repeal the Green Energy Act
• eliminate time of use billing
• end discriminatory delivery charges crushing rural residents
• remove all subsidized power from the grid
• terminate for convenience all subsidized generation contracts
• transfer off the Hydro books all termination costs including past gas plant termination costs. Hydro customers will not be made to pay for the Government boondoggles.
• terminate all Liberal Government appointees from all boards and electricity related entities
That is how we will cut our bills in half!
Job and the Economy
The Ontario Libertarian Party will make Ontario a job magnet!
Here's how:
• we will put in place a sensible electricity policy, our theme for Hydro Rates is "Cut your hydro bill in half".
• we will put in place a sensible Government and Taxation plan, including balance the provincial budget
• we will repeal the job-killing Cap & Trade Carbon Tax
• we will end any Government program and service related to mitigating climate change
• we will end Corporate taxation, of course Corporations will still pay HST
• we will end all grants and loans to Corporations and other entities
• we will end mandatory insurance with WSIB
• we will end mandatory registration with the College of Trades
That is how we will make Ontario a job magnet!
Property Rights
The Ontario Libertarian Party will say loud and clear - "Back Off Government"!
Here's how:
• Government agents will have no special privilege under the Ontario Trespass Act
• Conservation Authorities and any other Department or Agency will have no jurisdiction over privately owned property. What this means for instance is the operator of a bar or restaurant can allow smoking on the premises without Government interference so long as the property owner is in agreement.
• The Ontario Building Code Act will be amended so that it does not apply on a mandatory basis. Property owners can use the Code as guidance if they like. There will be no restrictions on off-grid solar installations.
• Municipal Bylaw inspectors will have no right of entry or inspection uninvited without a judge's order.
• Reduce the Ontario Land Transfer Tax to be a flat fee of $275 instead of the current fee that is based on the property value.
That is how we will say loud and clear "Back Off Government"!
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Originally Posted by B Wilson
This is F*****g hilarious!!!! This is why the uninformed shouldn't try to make policy. If you want to call yourself a "legitimate" party, you should at least know the very basics on taxation and how the energy sector works.
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Originally Posted by line052
With a platform like that your party will never, ever have a seat in parliament. Thankfully....... I can see your only votes coming from, off the grid, living in buried busses, doomsday preppers.:ninja:
Or Moms basement! I guess they can promise the world when there’s not a snowball’s chance in heii of getting elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
And that statement right there, is why the U.S. is having many of the problems it faces now? Everyone is so concerned with their "indivdual" rights, that they think nothing of trampling over their neighbours rights?Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
I imagine your household must be mayhem? Your kids just do what they want, when they want, and damned be the person who gets in their way! Is that your philosophy? Is that how your household is run? Each person for themselves with no responsibility toward their fellow person?
Yup all fun, till your unregulated neighbor wants to get into the cesspool business.
Speaking of Koolaid ! I am in shock and do not know where to begin with your statement line0052.
Have a look at the platform, and you might a better idea. If you don't believe in individual rights and people having power over government. Keep voting Conservative, or Liberal, it matters not to me.
We want to shrink government and put people in control, it is not that difficult to understand, how about instead of ensuring the government controls all all your life, take control over yours.
I would really like to know how all the people in southern ontario would feel about seeing a nuclear power plant in the distance and the waste from that plant in the ground by their home. They don't like solar or wind??? well, guess what. Look at this nuclear power plant and have future generations deal with the waste from said plant
Darlington and Pickering residents don't have a problem with it,neither do the residents of The Bruce. Spent fuel bundles are well contained. Having waste buried by someone's home is foolish leftist rhetoric.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonkers
Back on track.... Are the PC's going to screw up the victory by bringing up sex-ed curriculum?.... Why rattle the cage
First off I will say congrats to Mr. Ford. My worst fear though is that all the soft liberal votes that are turning away from Redenbacher and could have been votes for the PCs will now instead shift to the NDP. All those soft votes will be too afraid to go as far right as Ford and I fear we will end up in the same boat we found ourselves in 1990 when Rae ended up running the show.
^^^ my fears exactly.
There is time to amend the policies and completely ditch some of Brown's crap. I know that really doesn't help your cause...Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
If I understand your position on hydro correctly, tearing up FIT contracts will get the government sued for breach of contract. What is that going to cost and where is money coming from?
Where are you going to move gas plant and other hydro debt to, and who pays? The debts still have to be paid.
Not requiring the building code? This will create a lot of problems, when dishonest contractors or people who really don't have a clue what they are doing start removing load bearing walls etc in their homes or condominium. This really does not sound well thought out.
Make WSIB voluntary for employers. Are you kidding? I know the premiums can be high for certain work or employers with a lot of claims. But only screws every worker who gets hurt on the job. How do you propose injured workers pay their bills while recovering
Question about your proposed property rights. Does this mean I no longer need to buy a hunting license or game seals if I only hunt on private property?
What are your projected provincial debt levels for the next 8 years and provide detail of how are you will lower it each year.
Smoking in bars and restaurants has been gone long enough that it would be business death sentence if they started again? But if that's what you believe the general population wants...
Also would like to know your parties policy on marijuana and what part the provincial government should play.
If I understand your position on hydro correctly, tearing up FIT contracts will get the government sued for breach of contract. What is that going to cost and where is money coming from? Where are you going to move gas plant and other hydro debt to, and who pays? The debts still have to be paid.
Each contract has a “for convenience clause” that allows the government. The contracts have to go, we will remove all subsidized hydro from the grid, as it was wrote in bad faith and is the cause of the huge increases in Delivery to you, Distribtuion charge increases to subsidize the contracts. These contract benefit no users in Ontario, and place/cause unfair competitive charges to consumers.
Secondly, we will remove all appointees from the OEB and corporations.
Third - Remove all Carbon taxation from energy.
Fourth – remove all time of use billing to make it fair for everyone
Lastly, we initiate a debt retirement plan to pay off the debt.
The hydro file and fixing it is our number 1 concern to make Ontario a business place to set up shop. Hydro costs in every state and province around Ontario are cheaper, so no incentive for any business to locate here..unless you grovel to government for tax credits. That is not free market, and we are getting out of the business of subsidies.
Not requiring the building code? This will create a lot of problems, when dishonest contractors or people who really don't have a clue what they are doing start removing load bearing walls etc in their homes or condominium. This really does not sound well thought out.
It does not say we are getting rid of the building code, we will change the law that makes it mandatory. So if you are a private landowner and wish to live in an Earthen home on your property, go ahead, it will be your life and your risk. Any smart homeowner would build to a code if they ever hope to grow your investment..but if you don’t..that is your investment choice.
Commercial builders will have to follow the code as they will be selling a product and are liable, if you want a mortgage, you will have to satisfy a bank or an insurer. So little will change, except people if they choose not to build to a code, they will no longer be forced to. But, you as an individual will be responsible for your home.
Make WSIB voluntary for employers. Are you kidding? I know the premiums can be high for certain work or employers with a lot of claims. But only screws every worker who gets hurt on the job. How do you propose injured workers pay their bills while recovering
Mandatory WSIB will be ended “Mandatory”, is the key word, if an employer decides to leave the program for another private insurer that is what that means. Auto Sector and large companies have protected legislative rights not to join, because they have own employee programs. Smaller companies have no choice, so it hurts smaller businesses.
I would challenge you to prove to me the system works to help injured workers, it has over the last 30 yrs continually gotten worse with more bureaucracy and less support to the workers. That is a fact. I have seen several of my friends go thru the terrible process that is in place now..with poor retraining skills, ultimatums to accept less pay and work than the originally had before being injured. Or you are cut off…
The program when it first came out worked very well, but in the last 30 years is has grown in bureaucracy and know only 30% of all premiums goes to injured workers and 70% to the growth of bureucrats.
Question about your proposed property rights. Does this mean I no longer need to buy a hunting license or game seals if I only hunt on private property?
Currently under the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB), Municipal Property Assessment Corporation (MPAC), Conservation Authority (CA), these organizations have unlimited control, access and authority over your property. They use the power and money behind the municipality to fight you over your property rights. Most small guys have no chance of winning. They run out of money or life before it is resolved.
The problem here is you do not own land, in title, no land use. The Canadian Constitution of 17 April 1982 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Canada took away those rights which used to be protected under British Common Law and the Magna Carta.
Both MPAC and CA derive their authority from these Acts. What does that mean to you- me and every other person who buys a house or a rural, acreage property? It means the government controls the lands, the land use, what you can build, how you can build, if you can move soil, add soil, take away soil, cut your trees, divert water, use water.
The government has total control of your property rights and you have no say. THIS statement is not really true, but the effect is the same in Ontario and Canada. You do own a piece of paper with a drawing of your property lines that you paid for (or mortgaged), but you the owner - have last right of decisions over your property. If you disagree, or don’t get permission to build a house, then the full weight of municipal, provincial government will move in with armed men and seize your land if you don’t comply to will of government agencies and authorities.
In effect you have no right to make decisions over the land you purchased.
If you own first right to land (in law), then the government is subservient to you the land owner. That is true power over government, which is true land ownership rights, that is true freedom to chart your own destiny and way of life.
What are your projected provincial debt levels for the next 8 years and provide detail of how are you will lower it each year.
Through reductions in bureaucracy, and elimination of many wasted jobs, plus freeing up the markets of education and healthcare with choice I.E. like OHIP, keep it, but you will control all the funds and decide who your provider will be..same with education..like your public school system..great funding will be attached to the child and parents will control how their children are educated.
Smoking in bars and restaurants has been gone long enough that it would be business death sentence if they started again? But if that's what you believe the general population wants...
A private business will be able to offer both options. His clients will decide if market will support the business idea. Want to go to smoking business..go..want to go to a nonsmoking business..go. The business idea will succeed on the merits of the business plan..not government regulation. That is the great thing about freedom to choose and operate a business as you see fit.
Also would like to know your parties policy on marijuana and what part the provincial government should play.
Zero, let the free market run sales of MJ, LCBO and Beer stores
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Originally Posted by B Wilson
Thanks for confirming that I will never vote Libertarian. What a fricken mess !
Ya, I feel the same. Basically their philosophy sounds like it's one big free-for-all?Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Mark,Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
In regards to Hydro, I am confident that the many people who borrowed money to install solar panels on their farms will test the “for convenience clause” through the courts. Do you honestly believe that they will just walk away quietly without a class action lawsuit, that might even make the gas plant scandal seem like a bargain.
Remove all appointees from the OEB and corporations – how much will that cost to terminate contracts early? Who is going to replace them, are these going to be elected positions?
Remove all carbon taxation from energy – does this include gasoline tax? (remember where most of the MTO funding come)
Remove all time of use billing – ok, which rate are you going to make static on peak, mid peak, off peak?
Initiate a debt retirement charge – so you are just playing a shell game with the hydro debt. No real change to what we have, just a different way of taking the same amount of money required to service the debt.
In regards to Building Code – how many people do you think there are in Ontario that do not require mortgages and prefer to live in a home made of mud and sticks. It’s very hard to take your party serious if this is one of the issues that the people of Ontario are asking for in large enough volume that it is party of your election campaign.
WSIB, if it’s broken, fix it, just don’t walk away from the working people who pay taxes to pay your MPP salary. The system does work for short term absences from work, I challenge you (because you are after my vote, not the other way around) that it doesn’t work for someone who may have sprained an ankle, while on the job etc (minor injuries) that would have made a huge difference when the rent came due and they didn’t get paid for 4 or 5 days
Property rights – you didn’t answer my question about big game seals or hunting licences. Please answer the question. A simple yes or no will work. It will help me determine if you are in fact restoring my full property rights. Either I do own the land, birds, water and creatures on the land or I don’t.
MPAC – You are still going to take a hissy fit, if they just sit at the road and guess at what the value of the home is if you don’t allow them on the property. You would have my attention if you changed your policy (but there may not be enough time for that before the election). Change it reflect land size / road frontage and if its vacant land or has buildings or not. That way you are paying the same amount for a 1 acre lot with your mud and stick home as I would pay for my 3000 sq ft custom built home with a paved driveway on a 1 acre lot next door. There should also be no premium put on waterfront homes.
Conservation Authorities – please provide examples and context of when a conservation authority has stepped in an intervened with something that was doing no harm to the ecosystem.
Reference to the Constitution – You have clearly identified that your party at a provincial level can’t do a damned thing about changing MPAC and Conservation Authorities because the constitution is Federal, not provincial.
Provincial Debt Levels
– when I said detail, I meant in $ . Reduction in bureaucracy eliminating many wasted jobs. How many are wasted and how much $ are you going to save us. Year by Year, how are you going to reduce the provincial debt. If you party is going to be taken serious, you need to provide some numbers (we have already seen what happens when a party leader claims “the books will balance themselves”
Education – you say we would have the choice how education funding is spent for our kids. Awesome idea, I don’t have kids yet via municipal taxes I pay for education in two separate municipalities. Does this mean I won’t have to pay another nickel into education? How about senior citizens, will they be excluded too? Your party is going to cost young families a lot of money.
Marijuana, LCBO, Beer Store – I agree let the free market run with it, you need to put that into your campaign that you will privatize LCBO, Beer Store is already privately owned, but has the convenience of a provincial government approved monopoly.
You can either reply or not reply, it’s really not going to matter at this point. Your first series of answers have been enough for me to make an educated decision.
Good luck in the election.
They are trying to build a Utopia with no unification, hoping everything would fall into place. they are very :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
Dream along with them :whacked: ??
Mark, I'm just curious. Are the Gumby cartoon characters in your profile pic, somehow connected to your libertarian affiliation? Help me out here please? You're asking people to vote for your party? You've told us some of the policies of your party? You do sound like you're sincere in your beliefs, but I just cant wrap my head around a grown man playing with Gumby cartoon toys and then expecting to be taken seriously?
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Libertarians get about 10% of the vote, not because I agree with their platform but more as a wakeup for the mainstream parties, and to nudge them a little further right. This would only take votes from the Conservatives so I guess is not really desirable in a tight election, I don’t think the Cons could ever get a large enough lead over the Liberals that they could afford it.
Libertarian government ? Not a chance.
The Sarnia area is strong PC supporter and the local membership has already said via newspaper, radio etc that we will support Ford. Eastern Ontario is also a strong PC supporter(kemptville area). The key spot for the PC's to gain control is Toronto and it seems they now have it . Anyone thinking the NDP is the better choice is out of their mind and wasn't around for the Rae days. You think were taxed to death now wait until the NDP ever get in !Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
But, but, but Horwath is offering free teeth and drugs for all!Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
So, the Dr's will write prescriptions for free, the pharmacy chains give away the drugs and dentists work for nothing? There is no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody had to pay the bill. What Wynne and Horvath are saying is we will borrow the money and your grandchildren will be burdonned with the cost and the compounded interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Saw her speech yesterday on cityplus24. Promised the stars and the moon however when question by a reported how she was going to pay for it her response was wait 2 weeks and it well be spell out in her platform and you can do the mathQuote:
Originally Posted by last5oh_302
To me that's a kin to saying the cheque is in the mail.....
Saw a great bumper sticker on a pickup....,,a picture of Wynne, caption read....Does this azz make my truck look big ?? I gotta get me one of them !!
OR! "The Budget Will Balance Itself " .:whacked:like the liberliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Saw this on another site:
Here’s some Liberal thinking...
Bell Let’s talk! Mental health and addiction are diseases and as such, should be treated with compassion and empathy.
Mayor Rob Ford, who if anything, loved his city, province and country, has a substance abuse problem.
Libs: He’s an embarrassing stain on Canadian values!
CBC Radio: Doug, amidst unproven allegations that you sold hashish in the 1980’s, how can Canadians trust you?
Liberal government: let’s legalize marijuana and have a monopoly on its sale while simultaneously demonizing someone for an unproven allegation from 30 years ago for allegedly selling the same thing. (KG)
Yup, even Fantino is selling it now.
Care to expand on that ??Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
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Originally Posted by rick_iles
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/...ness-1.4403194
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Originally Posted by WillieBeno
Disregard....got it !
Sorry, try it now.
Yep, how quickly people change opinions when money is to be made..... no real difference than Bill Blair’s flip-flop !! I guess the big difference is one advocates medical purposes, the other advocates recreational use....
They are jumping at the chance to make $$$$$$ Fantino is joined in partnership by former RCMP Commissioner.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles