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thinking of grabbing one of these for the atv, anyone hear anything bad about these? getting kinda tired of tying the atv down to the bed lol, also heard if you ever get cut off itll save your back window from your atv going through it.
Looks pretty slick. I’d still tie down the front on long highway hauls. Looks like the down side would be the height of the hitch receiver, if you were going to pull a trailer ....
yeah, i believe there is 3 separate pieces and once you set those to your desired heights you never had to do it again just release it and put it back on, i do see what your saying about the trailer tho, for us it would be for more of a convenience thing drive the atv up hitch her on and good to go, maybe put a tie down in the front like you were saying for 150 bucks its not a bad deal for what it is i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
The distance from the trucks receiver to the 450-500 lb bike will equal a lot of leverage. It better be heavy steel and good welding? And with all the connecting points, there's sure to be a lot of clunking? For my money, it's too gimmicky.
For short jaunts to a hunting spot , sure. It might be worth my while to look into it given how many ratchet straps I lose every year.
Is it going to stop that bike from taking your noodle off if involved in a head on, not a chance. 600lb atv at 55 MPH has a lot of potential energy, thankfully most truck cabs have protection for such a thing.
I would be curious as to how it would stack up legally given a sticky officer could give you a PP slap for not having the atv attached at 4 points.
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I love this Erickson e-trac tie down system. Cheaper and sooo easy! The only thing is you need to buy is hardware ( bolts/nuts /washers) $10 or so.
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I have seen them used but I showed to a welder from and he said that bottom support is extremely poor and couldn't figure out how it could even be sold in Canada. Ther should be a second brace on it and there isn't.
Cost to build your own if you can weld is about 50 bucks
fair point, we drive usually an hour to where we hunt take the highway then side roads most of the way, we usually use a chain across the back frame and then tie down the front, the pick up and atv we have already just fit into the truck with the tail gate down so i see this as a viable option, as for what gregger said thats only doable if you have a trailer!Quote:
Originally Posted by oaknut
fair point theres a couple companies that make this product if i remember correctlyQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I agree. The adjusting connectors will be loose-fitting which will cause movement in the system. Worse yet, without a brace directly back to the hitch, the unit will likely bend in a sudden stop. A custom job with thicker steel, a brace, and less parts would be better IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I wouldn't trust it, get yourself some decent straps
If you built it yourself, you could easily re-enforce it, I thought about building one the metal would cost about 50 bucks and well I can't weld but my best friend can. I just have not decided it. I can strap down the ATV in 5 minutes anyways.
I don't lose my straps very often, I keep each one in small plastic bags when I am not using them and they are all kept in a large bag in the back of the truck.
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Originally Posted by Sam Menard
Wow I’ve trailered a lot of heavy equipment. That there scares meQuote:
Originally Posted by Gregger17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxoqZXBfws this is the same design but diff company, skip through the video a bit lmk what you guys think? its made out of the same stuff your hitch on your truck is made out of. why trust your hitch to hitch trailers but not trust it to hold a atv in the back of your truck?
I don't think there's much you can do to keep a quad in the truck in a serious collision, I'd say that thing would keep it from falling out just as well as any Chinese made ratchet strap hooked into a tie down bolted into a tinfoil truck box. At least a trailer hitch is bolted into the frame. I don't think I'd be towing a trailer on the back of it though it looks a bit jenky for that.
I wonder how well his tailgate closes after all that !! Personally, I wouldn’t want the weight on my tailgate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
i have to have my tailgate like that for my atv to fit in my bed, havent had any issues with my tailgate at all, if youre talking about the possible hit from the arm and tailgate youre suppose to leave at least an inch gap in between and it comes with something caled the slackonator which allows a little slack when under more weightQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
No problem on the tail gate, if you have an extra cab most likely your box is no more then 6.6 ft, so your tail has to be down.
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Originally Posted by rick_iles
I agree! Each bounce will put slack on the strap and eventually it just slides off. Things that make you go hummmmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
This what you need for the rear window...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
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500-600 lbs ATV with what looks to be a three or four inch strap per wheel is while over the securement requirement for MOT/DOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
This is the way the car haulers tie down their loads. I would want a backing plate on the underside of the deck using bolts/washers/lock washers and Nylon nuts...... NOT Lag bolts into the wood. There are straps designed to go over tires, they would be more secure.
There is nothing really wrong with the system, but just like must "Consumer" grade stuff the designers and manufacturers never put in those extra minutes of thought. Or maybe it's the accountants that screw it up, crying over a couple extra dollars cost per unit.
My experience has been the same as Bushmoose’s post. Flex in the tires loosened the straps in no time. I solved the problem by going to the axles, not the tires. The straps still loosen a bit on long hauls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
i heard its not good to tie down from axles for long hauls. i usually tie down from behind the shocks on the frame. also put a chain across the backQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Yes the low pressure in ATV tires allow more flex then a car tire, which is why I suggest using the proper straps.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
That said, that tie down system is good but a few pieces of gear really needed to be better.
Are you aware that unit will ship out of the US because Home Depot in Canada doesn't stock them? Duty and exchange will be a killer and they may not be legal for use here. It would be wise to investigate further. They aren't listed with Princess Auto,either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
Most times i used my trailer. But when I load it in back of pick up box I put blocks of wood in front of tires. Tie winch to front tie down and pass a 3” ratchet strap around hitch / ball receiver to tie down at rear. Nothing moves.
I do basically the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
they have them on amazon canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Get the right tool for the job, a trailer.
There is, or at least was, a similar product called the Louisiana Guard Dog, that I used as a template to build my own version. It worked well, and I used it quite a bit until I bought a 16' atv trailer. It was fairly secure from theft, as I was able to put locks on the coupler at the atv end, and also locks on the pins that attached it to my truck receiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
the LA guard dog is the other product im looking at as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmer
I checked it out and you're right,it's the same unit. Something like this certainly can't hurt securing the ATV in the box. With simple lock pins,it's an excellent unit for preventing theft. I'm not sure I'd put a lot of trust in it to prevent it coming out of the box in a collision,though. Impact inertial physics can do mind-boggling stuff. I've seen boxes ripped right off trucks,cargo and all. If you decide to buy one,let me know how it works. You've got my attention,for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
if we end up getting one ill be sure to PM you about itQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
you can also lock your loading ramp/ secure your loading ramp with it too
This is the unit I built.
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oh nice same type of deal, so instead of it being on a angle you made the posts just come straight out hm, it looks really well done none the lessQuote:
Originally Posted by delmer
This does not seem any easier then a couple ratchet straps.
For security purposes a piece of chain and a padlock should be sufficient.