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February 6th, 2017, 12:19 PM
#71
You need one heck of a big truck to exceed that GVWR of 6,000 KG.
For example here is a chart on the Ford super duty lineup.
The F150 is half of that so no concerns at all if personal use while towing.
http://www.ford.ca/trucks/superduty/...tions/payload/
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February 6th, 2017 12:19 PM
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February 6th, 2017, 12:20 PM
#72
Originally Posted by
trimmer21
So,if the GVWR is under 5 tons,there's no safety certificate required?
No..lol
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February 6th, 2017, 12:21 PM
#73
The personal use pickup exemption only pertains to CVOR, pre trip inspection report and log books. If you have a pickup registered for over 4500kg's and it's being used for business then you need everything.
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February 7th, 2017, 01:32 AM
#74
Originally Posted by
last5oh_302
^^^^ that has nothing to do with the yellow tag and again, it only pertains to commercial motor vehicles.
That just deals with RGW.
Guess come gardening and renovation season your going to need a new box of pens, since you know what to look for now...
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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February 7th, 2017, 01:37 AM
#75
Originally Posted by
last5oh_302
The personal use pickup exemption only pertains to CVOR, pre trip inspection report and log books. If you have a pickup registered for over 4500kg's and it's being used for business then you need everything.
Don't forget the TOTAL COMBINED VEHICLE WEIGHT. If the rated weight of both your pickup and trailer add up to 4500kg or more you need stickers on both.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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February 7th, 2017, 06:09 AM
#76
Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Don't forget the TOTAL COMBINED VEHICLE WEIGHT. If the rated weight of both your pickup and trailer add up to 4500kg or more you need stickers on both.
Thanks Snowwalker - I didn't realise that. I thought 4500kg was just the trailer....
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February 7th, 2017, 07:30 AM
#77
Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Don't forget the TOTAL COMBINED VEHICLE WEIGHT. If the rated weight of both your pickup and trailer add up to 4500kg or more you need stickers on both.
As per the MTO,
"Light trailers that transmit to the highway a total weight of 2,800 kilograms (6,173 lb) or less are not included in determining registered gross weight."
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/commercial-vehicle-faq.shtml#a3
This is for commercial use. Furthermore, the handbook says:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...ion5.4.1.shtml
"You must have a valid driver’s licence (Class G1, G2 or G) or higher class of licence to tow a trailer with a gross vehicle weight of up to 4,600 kilograms. If your trailer and load exceeds the size and weight specified in the Highway Traffic Act, you may need a higher class of licence or an oversize vehicle permit to tow it. Oversize permits are available at some ServiceOntario centres.
It is against the law to tow more than one trailer behind non-commercial vehicles."
The reference is in regards to a trailer up to 4,600 KG in weight and does not include the tow vehicle.
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February 7th, 2017, 07:51 AM
#78
Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Guess come gardening and renovation season your going to need a new box of pens, since you know what to look for now...
Haha spring time can be rough on landscapers but personally I and the folks I work with don't bother with the light single axle and half tons (also, they want the concentration to be on CVOR vehicles, unless something is unsafe), unless something is obviously wrong, which could explain why I didn't realize new half tons and single axle utilities are now in the game. . Also tickets are all spit out by a computer now. Just need a John Henry.
Originally Posted by
Snowwalker
Don't forget the TOTAL COMBINED VEHICLE WEIGHT. If the rated weight of both your pickup and trailer add up to 4500kg or more you need stickers on both.
As I've said several times, safeties are based on three things. Rgw, actual weight, or mgvwr.
Last edited by last5oh_302; February 7th, 2017 at 08:44 AM.
Reason: to add CVOR mandate
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February 7th, 2017, 07:56 AM
#79
Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Thanks Snowwalker - I didn't realise that. I thought 4500kg was just the trailer....
You're probably mixing up when you need a class A license. Just the weight of the trailer is used for that and anything over 4600 is the magic number.
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February 7th, 2017, 08:05 AM
#80
Originally Posted by
impact
As per the MTO,
"Light trailers that transmit to the highway a total weight of 2,800 kilograms (6,173 lb)
or less are not included in determining registered gross weight."
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/commercial-vehicle-faq.shtml#a3
This is for commercial use. Furthermore, the handbook says:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...ion5.4.1.shtml
"You must have a valid driver’s licence (Class G1, G2 or G) or higher class of licence to tow a trailer with a gross vehicle weight of up to 4,600 kilograms. If your trailer and load exceeds the size and weight specified in the Highway Traffic Act, you may need a higher class of licence or an oversize vehicle permit to tow it. Oversize permits are available at some ServiceOntario centres.
It is against the law to tow more than one trailer behind non-commercial vehicles."
The reference is in regards to a trailer up to 4,600 KG in weight and does not include the tow vehicle.
Again this just pertains to RGW, and the bottom part is about class of license.
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