No Crown land Camping

[trimmer21]

True, they are usually just doing it on the cheap to cover some basic expenses and for their friends benefit not for income. Sad but the reality is S's too busy whining about the rental services like they are something new when they have been around for decades. He's also whining about spending less than $85 a day in prime season in the south in Winter when the price goes up from $50 and especially it seems that people want to make money on their investment. Well if he isn't the cheap skate as he contends and he hates people trying to make money .... then it's option 2. He's right that there are areas that tourism is a big part of the economy, didn't know about the taxes & don't care, it is great they do but his goal seems to be to hate on people and services that are benefiting them while they're trying to earn that money in the area that needs it by offering a rental at more than a discount/cheap price ...

Services offer exposure, handle bookings, payment, track revenue and some of the expenses.... they are convenient and reasonable (other than AirBNB (due to their support of delusional Docs against firearms)) and even have feedback and screening... hating on them is like people hating on someone using any service that saves time and offers value... ah well, it is kind of fun pointing out his failures and asking him questions he won't answer but enough time wasted and sadly he likely won't get it anyway.

Anyway, the province put a kill on it too this summer it looks like... people and businesses not making money, maybe he will be happy.
https://cottagelife.com/realestate/r...=48055e2b2eppU
"On April 4, the Ontario government amended the Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act, banning short-term rentals during the COVID-19 pandemic. Specifically, the amendment states that “Every person who provides short term rentals in rental accommodations shall ensure that any rentals booked after April 4, 2020 are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing during the emergency period.”"

"...people in need of housing"......Can you imagine the shyte storm a landowner would be in after admitting welfare cases and homeless people in to their property? With current municipal and provincial "affordable" housing regulations,once in,they'd never be able to get them out.

[sawbill]

Anybody who pays 30 percent more for a product and gets absolutely nothing for it in return either has way too much money or is a complete idiot. Which one are you? Never mind answering that one.

[mosquito]

"...people in need of housing"......Can you imagine the shyte storm a landowner would be in after admitting welfare cases and homeless people in to their property? With current municipal and provincial "affordable" housing regulations,once in,they'd never be able to get them out.

I could see people renting out to friends or family etc. but it would be hard for a person to do for a stranger in this current environment I am afraid. If someone isn't paying their rent right now you can't even kick them out until the 6 months period is over. You can issue the warning letters so you can kick them out when that restriction is gone but you are stuck with them for ... I guess about 5 months? now.

Anybody who pays 30 percent more for a product and gets absolutely nothing for it in return either has way too much money or is a complete idiot. Which one are you? Never mind answering that one.

So if you didn't think it was worth it, who cares... I mean you dodged around how many, how long etc. and it turns out to be from $50 to less than $85 a day, less than $35 a day difference ... I guess you didn't like it that much or are a complete narcissist. Also the first opportunity you get, you go great I hope it hurts them, in regards to this ban that will affect all the cottage owners and companies like RentCottage and VRBO etc IF I am stupid in YOUR eyes... I take that as a compliment on all grounds (business, moral and financial....)

[sawbill]

I never dodged one part of your question that was asked directly of me. Go back and read it again. You'll see the bulk of your questions answered. And if you still need clarification, I'm not far away.
Bottom line is I'm not willing to support some parasitic company who charges me over $1000 to do your advertising.

[mosquito]

I never dodged one part of your question that was asked directly of me. Go back and read it again. You'll see the bulk of your questions answered. And if you still need clarification, I'm not far away.
Bottom line is I'm not willing to support some parasitic company who charges me over $1000 to do your advertising.

Waiting for the tea kettle so I have some time to waste.... let's start:

Parasitic? "get it up the wazoo" .... your attitude and empathy scale suck.

Let's try some facts....
You want to rent a unit in prime season that you say rents for $150 to $300 a night for $1500.... cheap skate
The companies like VRBO offer a service and help people rent at market price so they get income from their investment.

OK, now to the questions you never answered?
When was the last time they increased their monthly price?
How many people in the group and size of the place?
Did the owner or management change?
You also didn't tell us how you found out about the rentals before if they weren't on VRBO etc?
I also asked if you could share the VRBO link... sure you aren't making it up?

You probably wouldn't know (or care it seems) some other questions like did the management fees change? Owners financial situation and family situation?

I bring up the fact that ONTARIO cottage owners won't be able to rent this summer and you make it about yourself in Texas and are vindictive to the businesses and cottage owners ("get it up the wazoo), you then say the area needs tourism money but also are hostile all because you can't get your rental in prime season for 1/3 the daily price... no regard for owner's position, companies are parasitic, wants to get a supper discount .... socialist seems to be the best fit. Other people work had and suffer but you don't have to and get mad if you don't get your way.

[Woodsman]

Damn this thread has really taken a side track from "crown land camping".

[mosquito]

Damn this thread has really taken a side track from "crown land camping".

Yep.... I posted a link about the fact that cottages were now banned from renting and got a reply was quite hateful and insulting about hoping that the companies renting them out (and of course the cottage owners too) saying he wanted them

getting it up the old wazoo.

so I was rather pi**** at his lack of empathy and hostility.

Anyway, the province put a kill on it too this summer it looks like... people and businesses not making money, maybe he will be happy.
https://cottagelife.com/realestate/r...=48055e2b2eppU
"On April 4, the Ontario government amended the Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act, banning short-term rentals during the COVID-19 pandemic. Specifically, the amendment states that “Every person who provides short term rentals in rental accommodations shall ensure that any rentals booked after April 4, 2020 are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing during the emergency period.”"

It deviated even further into his ignorant rant essential because someone was going to only give 1/3 discount when in reality he wanted to only PAY 1/3 of the daily rate when renting in prime season for a month and he was angry about it. Since I use rent it to help pay for repairs (never made a profit) and have neighbours that rent it out to and those neighbours consist of 70+ year olds and newly married with a kid that supplement their that way to I wasn't going to let his sh** stand unchallenged. I should know better, there are some so closed minded you can't get past their irrational and it isn't worth paying attention to them, I'll remember him for next time. Sorry. I won't answer on this thread again.


P.S.
Just opened my mail, got a letter from the Municipality, fines are upto $100,000 for an individual and go up!
Bye.

[jaycee]

Yep.... I posted a link about the fact that cottages were now banned from renting and got a reply was quite hateful and insulting about hoping that the companies renting them out (and of course the cottage owners too) saying he wanted them so I was rather pi**** at his lack of empathy and hostility.






It deviated even further into his ignorant rant essential because someone was going to only give 1/3 discount when in reality he wanted to only PAY 1/3 of the daily rate when renting in prime season for a month and he was angry about it. Since I use rent it to help pay for repairs (never made a profit) and have neighbours that rent it out to and those neighbours consist of 70+ year olds and newly married with a kid that supplement their that way to I wasn't going to let his sh** stand unchallenged. I should know better, there are some so closed minded you can't get past their irrational and it isn't worth paying attention to them, I'll remember him for next time. Sorry. I won't answer on this thread again.

Please! give it up and allow others to get this thread back on track.

Where the heck are the mods????

[fishfood]

Where the heck are the mods????

All in isolation [emoji6][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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[sawbill]

OK, try to follow this and I'll keep it as simple as possible.
With some little variation prime time rental time rates are the same as in the off season in every property I looked. Only difference is they get booked quicker in prime time. Not much change in price with the exception of long weekends. Got that???
I'm cheap because I won't rent at $130 per night if when I rent for the month I get it at a reduced rate? I don't negotiate the price. The owner does that. Got that??? Do you ever shop in bulk or is that analogy over your head?
I have no idea when they last upped their rates. Probably every few years or so. How would I know. I got the same rate for 3 years running in Corpus. What's that got to do with anything???
Accommodations and sizes of units are all different. Rates vary depending on size of unit. The unit rate stays the same no matter the no. of guests booked. And your point is what????
In Corpus some of the units in the complex are private and their rent stayed the same. The ones operated by the condo or whatever they're called, their rents skyrocketed when VRBO moved in.
I found out about the place from my neighbor.
Palm Bay Resorts on south Padre Island is where we used to stay. Look it up yourself.
So I'm cheap because I don't pay $300 per night? I don't pay $300 per night because I can't afford it. But I can get great accommodations on some prime fishing lakes for anywhere from $1000 to $2000 per month. I should pay them more so I don't appear cheap to you? Yeah, OK.
Definition of parasite: A person or company, in this case who uses others to obtain an advantage without doing anything in exchange. The very definition of VRBO. All they do is put a picture and your info (whichI you have to provide)on a website. The owners should pay that, not me. You have a place to rent? Give a kid $50 to put it up on a website for you.
Here's a few more points you should try to understand, again I'll keep it simple. Tourism is the industry in the gulf states. Rents are cheap and camp owners are most competitive. So I'm cheap in your eyes because I won't pay $3 or 4 thousand a month for a VRBO listed rental. Why should I when the going rate is anywhere from $1000 to max $2000 for a private rental.
That's it! Don't pester me any further with this. I can't blame the others for getting ticked off.