Is anyone else getting really sick of the teachers unions radio ad -THREAD?

[MikePal]

Open debates have become a thing of the past, back in my day Universites used to encourage free thinking and to challenge one's belief systems thru debate. What I see happening now it that they stifle open debate and your freedom to express contradictory opinions. Look at how many Universities now ban controversial speakers from campus.

Instead of open discussion and debate, we are now taught and rules invoked so that you don't offend anyone with your opinions, after all, they have the right not to be made uncomfortable with challenges against their ideologies. This has coined the phrase "snowflakes".

Having said that....the guys on here that use the quote "only dead fish go with the flow" to support their constant trolling of threads, have to remember.."only an idiot goes up the down escalator". HaHa...

[greatwhite]

In general ALL Liberals pretty much refuse to debate, it's my way or nothing. Even Trudeau has pretty much stated that.

[fishermccann]

MP, I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments about stifling free speech, anywhere. Why then, should- would we want that ideology to spread to an 'Out of Doors', website? Example. On this site, if someone started a 'Why Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister ever ' thread , it would have pages and pages of submissions. BUT if someone else started a ' Why Harper is the worst Prime Minister ever' thread, he would be deemed a 'troll', and forced to endure numerous comments about his worth as a human being. As long as the rules of this forum are not breached, there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone voicing a different opinion than your own. You are for free speech , or you are not.

[Tigboy 304]

In general ALL Liberals pretty much refuse to debate, it's my way or nothing. Even Trudeau has pretty much stated that.

Bullseye, can't hit the nail on the head any better with that comment.

[sawbill]

MP, I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments about stifling free speech, anywhere. Why then, should- would we want that ideology to spread to an 'Out of Doors', website? Example. On this site, if someone started a 'Why Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister ever ' thread , it would have pages and pages of submissions. BUT if someone else started a ' Why Harper is the worst Prime Minister ever' thread, he would be deemed a 'troll', and forced to endure numerous comments about his worth as a human being. As long as the rules of this forum are not breached, there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone voicing a different opinion than your own. You are for free speech , or you are not.

All this from the forums' self confessed troll.

[410001661]

MP, I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments about stifling free speech, anywhere. Why then, should- would we want that ideology to spread to an 'Out of Doors', website? Example. On this site, if someone started a 'Why Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister ever ' thread , it would have pages and pages of submissions. BUT if someone else started a ' Why Harper is the worst Prime Minister ever' thread, he would be deemed a 'troll', and forced to endure numerous comments about his worth as a human being. As long as the rules of this forum are not breached, there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone voicing a different opinion than your own. You are for free speech , or you are not.

If you start an anti conservative thread in a largely conservative chat room you will be called a troll by individual members (collectively) because that is their opinion BUT you will not be banned or given warnings by the administrator for expressing your opinions - that only happens in a Liberal environment. On this forum your free speech 'should' not be stifled - just because someone is not in agreement with you does not mean you do not have a voice and opinion.

No different than if I went to a largely Liberal forum and started bashing Justin, and public sector unions. I would expect the same treatment from the forum members - plus they have this funny way of labeling everyone that does not agree with them as either a facist or a racist then throw mud at you. This is a protection mechanism that allows them to feel like they are one big happy cohesive group of collective consciousness.

[410001661]

Because this thread has been closed, and this subsequent thread serves as a reminder as to what happens when you can't be civil to other members of the Forum. Failure to abide by the Forum's guidelines will result in infractions and/or banishment from the Forum. Allow this to serve as yet another warning of what happens if this subject is broached once again. I don't like to police the community, I have balked against it time and again, but if you cannot proceed with respect and dignity, here we are.

How small and vapid to see the world merely in terms of conservative versus liberal. Didn't I recently help you sort out your photo-uploading issues, too? Mercy.

I am sorry Meghan but I fail to see how you helping me with my photo uploading issues have ANYTHING to do with my political views or calling out something that I see as the truth. I did not know your job at OOD was web administrator extraordinaire (and you do an amazing job BTW) AND protector of member feelings. I will keep that in mind next time thanks.

One more thing.......you said "How small and vapid to see the world merely in terms of conservative versus liberal". Might I remind you that we are in a Political thread, and the said Liberals just implemented a tyrannical (and illegal) gun ban that effects gun owners across Canada AND many members on this forum. I would think that with everything Justin has done over the last 2 years that if you were not against Justin and his Liberal party then logic must dictate you must be a Liberal yourself or at least a Red Conservative? Right??

Outside of the political topic the discussion is with fellow outdoor members regardless of race, political views, sexual identification & preference, and is only based on the love of the outdoors. If you really want to whoop it up a notch throw in a Religion topic as well.

[MikePal]

If you start an anti conservative thread in a largely conservative chat room you will be called a troll by individual members (collectively) because that is their opinion BUT you will not be banned or given warnings by the administrator for expressing your opinions - that only happens in a Liberal environment.

Well put....a lot of speakers on the circuit, like Charlie Kirk , Ben Shapiro and Dinesh D'Souza that lean 'right' in their views and opinions are not welcome on University campuses, often banned from speaking there or are accosted by the radical left movement when they do speak and have to hire security guards due to safety issues. A place where freedom of thought should be sacred, is most often meet with intolerance. A lot of hypocrisy behind those masks.

[mosquito]

Just remembering .... fires, protests, hatred and vandalism of a Conservative speaker .... remember Milo's tour... at BERKELEY . of all places!
https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mi...ley/index.html

and Ezra here..,
https://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_march_23_2017


Definition:
Political Correctness .... a term irrelevant to reality and based on the idea that truth, morality and science are 2nd to an emotional based opinion. Failure to comply with P.C. is according to some the justification needed for violence, hatred, irrational mental states and paranoia. Truth by it's nature is mutually exclusive of other items and by it's nature in a P.C. environment truth is found to be irrelevant to argumentation and even viewed as dismiss able or even hate speech.

[greatwhite]

The Left would say these protesters were misunderstood.

Just remembering .... fires, protests, hatred and vandalism of a Conservative speaker .... remember Milo's tour... at BERKELEY . of all places!
https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mi...ley/index.html

and Ezra here..,
https://www.therebel.media/ezra_levant_march_23_2017


Definition:
Political Correctness .... a term irrelevant to reality and based on the idea that truth, morality and science are 2nd to an emotional based opinion. Failure to comply with P.C. is according to some the justification needed for violence, hatred, irrational mental states and paranoia.