Police surprised by new powers they have to stop anyone they see for no reason????

[MikePal]

His handlers are making him look stupid in which they are themselves. He is just a talking head.

He has to listen to a lot of misinformation being feed to him from the a lot of sides; politicians, health care, education etc with agendas...

Then he has to the face the cameras....it's not easy to balance it all and I think he's done getting caught up in the lies.

[trimmer21]

Quite clearly,this was a "bridge too far",igniting protests and backlash across the province. The government had no choice but to back off with this face-saving reversal,but,I fear the damage has been done. Doctatorships must be brought to heel.

[Gilroy]

Quite clearly,this was a "bridge too far",igniting protests and backlash across the province. The government had no choice but to back off with this face-saving reversal,but,I fear the damage has been done. Doctatorships must be brought to heel.

100% agree with you brother.

[Gilroy]

100% agree with you brother.

He was prepared to cross the Rubicon, looked behind him and saw that the army was gone. LOL

[Moosehead]

For those interested, there is a Supreme Court of Canada case that speaks directly to this which can be found here: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/sc...m/614/index.do
This case involved a random stop of a vehicle which resulted in a charge of driving without a license. The appellant lost his appeal, but the Supreme Court ruled that officers should not use "random stops" to enforce laws as they are clearly contrary to Section 9 of the Charter, which reads: Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned. Arbitrary detention is basically allowing an officer to stop you for no reason at all. (PAPERS! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!). However, if there are reasonable grounds to pull someone over (busted tail light or rolling through a stop sign) they can stop you, but (as outlined in this case) should only question you regarding the offence suspected. A cop can't pull you over and ask to look in your trunk if you rolled through a stop sign - they would need additional reasonable grounds to do something like that.

Regardless, we should be thankful we have decent Case Law and the Charter to shut down oppressive laws that impact our freedoms. The government can use Section 33 of the Charter, the "notwithstanding" clause to allow some Laws to breach the charter, but these are subject to review in Parliament, and are very serious. They could use it for a Pandemic, but again, it would be front and center news and every legal beagle in Canada would be watching carefully.

The Charter and R. v Ladouceur from our Supreme Court are likely the reasons many Police forces won't touch these "random inspections" with a 10 foot pole. Even a crappy defense lawyer like Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons would win this argument in court.

[Gilroy]

For those interested, there is a Supreme Court of Canada case that speaks directly to this which can be found here: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/sc...m/614/index.do
This case involved a random stop of a vehicle which resulted in a charge of driving without a license. The appellant lost his appeal, but the Supreme Court ruled that officers should not use "random stops" to enforce laws as they are clearly contrary to Section 9 of the Charter, which reads: Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned. Arbitrary detention is basically allowing an officer to stop you for no reason at all. (PAPERS! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!). However, if there are reasonable grounds to pull someone over (busted tail light or rolling through a stop sign) they can stop you, but (as outlined in this case) should only question you regarding the offence suspected. A cop can't pull you over and ask to look in your trunk if you rolled through a stop sign - they would need additional reasonable grounds to do something like that.

Regardless, we should be thankful we have decent Case Law and the Charter to shut down oppressive laws that impact our freedoms. The government can use Section 33 of the Charter, the "notwithstanding" clause to allow some Laws to breach the charter, but these are subject to review in Parliament, and are very serious. They could use it for a Pandemic, but again, it would be front and center news and every legal beagle in Canada would be watching carefully.

The Charter and R. v Ladouceur from our Supreme Court are likely the reasons many Police forces won't touch these "random inspections" with a 10 foot pole. Even a crappy defense lawyer like Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons would win this argument in court.

100% correct they cannot pull you over to go on a fishing expedition. They have to have reasons and be able to articulate them in a court of law under oath and be prepared for a barrage of questions from a legally trained mind.

[canadaman30]

He was prepared to cross the Rubicon, looked behind him and saw that the army was gone. LOL

He looked behind him and saw this agenda being pushed on him to enforce. He's doing Trudeaus dirty work for him. Here the dictator with his plan hes pushing on the premiers

[Gilroy]

Nice deflection but you guys" voted this man into power in Ontario stop making excuses for him. Thank you local officers for defending your rights.

[rick_iles]

100% correct they cannot pull you over to go on a fishing expedition. They have to have reasons and be able to articulate them in a court of law under oath and be prepared for a barrage of questions from a legally trained mind.

Routine traffic stops are completely legal in Ontario, to check drivers for licences, insurance and/or sobriety. The court has upheld them as the need for public safety on our highways, outweigh any charter breaches caused by routine stops.

[MarkB]

Nice deflection but you guys" voted this man into power in Ontario stop making excuses for him. Thank you local officers for defending your rights.

LOL ... so are you saying this has nothing to do with Turdeau FAILING big time to vaccinate his population, and OH YEAH, allowing COVID infected planes to continue to land in Canada??? I'm not happy with Ford, trust me ... he's got some doctor who thinks he can make rules that break our rights, kill businesses, and mentally tear people apart ... but on the other hand ... Turdeau handed him this mess ... threw him into sinking sand!