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November 23rd, 2021, 10:49 AM
#131

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
I think you are missing the point, WHY ARE THEY PROTESTING IN THE FIRST PLACE?
They are protesting because of injustice and police inaction and over reaction. I hope you are not taking the viewpoint that people hired as police officers in the USA are the best choices. Most up till now who have been hired were ex military, ex militia, family members of other police officers, this does not make them good candidates.
Your portrayal of the vast MAJORITY of demonstrators is highly inaccurate IMHO.
When you have Militia members blocking the entrance to Michigan's Legislature and calling for the death of the female Governor while fully armed with AR15,s is this your idea of peaceful protest, IF IT IS AND ITS LAWFUL AS I AM SURE YOU ARE ABOUT TO SAY, then guess what the
"other side" gets to do the same.
The wisdom displayed by our government gives us a country where we do not have certain folks/groups surrounding our Parliament building while armed with AR15,s. I think that is a good thing.
The good news from 60 minutes last night is that Policing is now being re invented. Recruits are getting taught to call out fellow officers who violate others rights, calls for mental health will now be a 4th option on a 911 call, police officers will be required to meet face to face with minority groups as part of their initial training and de-escalation a priority. No more drill Sergeant military training boot camp crap that should have been done away with 20 years ago. We need thinking police officers with the training and mentality to handle complex problems.
Not guys that are good at shooting citizens and talking later.
The right to self defense in the USA is set at such a low bar these days that one citizen can practically shot another for nothing. Is this the type of country you want to live in and want for your own kid's.
Even if that were the case, which it isn't, they are their own worst enemy by shooting themselves in the foot with their extremely nasty and violent behaviour. Not the best spokespeople for their cause.
The stats fly in the face of the emotional leftist narrative that innocent black people are being hunted for sport by noose-wielding kkk cops. It just isn't true.
Looting, rioting, burning cities to the ground and assaulting/killing people (including other black people like retired officer, hero and true Patriot David Dorn) is not an acceptable or legal form of protest. It's beyond absurd how the media has ran cover for these atrocities with reporters calling them "mostly peaceful" while the city burns behind them.
The Black Panthers, a heavily armed militia, occupied the capital in protest. A bunch of lefties descendent on the capitol when they didn't like the Kavanaugh verdict. The left has committed much more violence historically and recently that it's not even close. And the reason I believe they are criticized more heavily In places like this forum is because they control all the major cultural and political institutions and no one is really allowed to talk about it in polite society...lest you be smeared as racist, xenophobic, or any other meaningless leftist insult designed to stifle debate.
Yes -- the only people who surround our parliament with AK's are Islamic terrorists, and the guards are still not armed after that atrocious debacle a few years ago.
This isn't simply about left-right politics or race, as it is often misinterpreted as. Politics gets dragged into it because they are connected, but it is more of a philosophical battle concerning rights, responsibilities, risks, rewards, rules, laws, etc. Which side is closest to common sense, decency, basic individual rights, etc.
I agree with your last point in some ways -- certain states could do with better gun licensing and training. I don't agree with any person who hasn't taken a basic gun safety course just walking out of a store with a bag full of guns for example. But the stats show that most of the crimes are committed with illegal firearms so this is a moot point in that sense. I am of course not a fan of senseless violence or indiscriminate killing.
I do believe in our right to self defense and in cases where seconds matter, and the police are minutes away, what other choice to we have? That's why this case is important because it reinforces, rather than undermines the sane rule of law. Otherwise the precedent is set to just let yourself be killed by violent protestors. I want to live in a place where my children will stay alive because of my protective actions, and view their father as a hero rather than criminal or enemy of the state for saving them from a violent situation. I'm sure all fathers would want that.
We have to acknowledge the special right that Americans have and that it is ultimately a good thing, like the Texas church shooter being quickly taken down by a good guy with a gun before police arrived.
Last edited by Bushwhacker; November 23rd, 2021 at 10:57 AM.
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November 23rd, 2021 10:49 AM
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November 23rd, 2021, 10:53 AM
#132

Originally Posted by
mosquito
Well when they can call a group run by a black Cuban a white supremacist........
while groups like BLM march shouting about dead cops and ANTIFA burning it all down are ignored....
https://www.lawofficer.com/antifa-me...eaten-to-burn/
You know something is wrong with them mentally and morally.
Yepp. Lefty logic 101.
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November 23rd, 2021, 11:06 AM
#133

Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
This isn't simply about left-right politics or race, as it is often misinterpreted as. Politics gets dragged into it because they are connected, but it is more of a philosophical battle concerning rights, responsibilities, risks, rewards, rules, laws, etc. Which side is closest to common sense, decency, basic individual rights, etc.
Simply put it is a battle of Good vs Evil.
Robert F Kennedy Jr: “This is the final battle, we need to win this one"
https://rumble.com/vpmilp-robert-f-k...-this-one.html
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November 23rd, 2021, 11:26 AM
#134
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-p...-shooting-cops - moral of story - don't point a gun at anyone unless you want to shoot them otherwise you could get shot -
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November 23rd, 2021, 11:37 AM
#135

Originally Posted by
JoePa
Words of wisdom !!!
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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November 23rd, 2021, 02:58 PM
#136

Originally Posted by
impact
It is called intimidation.
Who is intimidated, the jury is inside and the Judge ruled no mistrial?
Was there anybody intimidated when Rittenhouse took to the street with his Ar15?
DOES HE GET A PASS BECAUSE HE WAS A WHITE GUY?
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November 23rd, 2021, 03:15 PM
#137

Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
Even if that were the case, which it isn't, they are their own worst enemy by shooting themselves in the foot with their extremely nasty and violent behaviour. Not the best spokespeople for their cause.
The stats fly in the face of the emotional leftist narrative that innocent black people are being hunted for sport by noose-wielding kkk cops. It just isn't true.
Looting, rioting, burning cities to the ground and assaulting/killing people (including other black people like retired officer, hero and true Patriot David Dorn) is not an acceptable or legal form of protest. It's beyond absurd how the media has ran cover for these atrocities with reporters calling them "mostly peaceful" while the city burns behind them.
The Black Panthers, a heavily armed militia, occupied the capital in protest. A bunch of lefties descendent on the capitol when they didn't like the Kavanaugh verdict. The left has committed much more violence historically and recently that it's not even close. And the reason I believe they are criticized more heavily In places like this forum is because they control all the major cultural and political institutions and no one is really allowed to talk about it in polite society...lest you be smeared as racist, xenophobic, or any other meaningless leftist insult designed to stifle debate.
Yes -- the only people who surround our parliament with AK's are Islamic terrorists, and the guards are still not armed after that atrocious debacle a few years ago.
This isn't simply about left-right politics or race, as it is often misinterpreted as. Politics gets dragged into it because they are connected, but it is more of a philosophical battle concerning rights, responsibilities, risks, rewards, rules, laws, etc. Which side is closest to common sense, decency, basic individual rights, etc.
I agree with your last point in some ways -- certain states could do with better gun licensing and training. I don't agree with any person who hasn't taken a basic gun safety course just walking out of a store with a bag full of guns for example. But the stats show that most of the crimes are committed with illegal firearms so this is a moot point in that sense. I am of course not a fan of senseless violence or indiscriminate killing.
I do believe in our right to self defense and in cases where seconds matter, and the police are minutes away, what other choice to we have? That's why this case is important because it reinforces, rather than undermines the sane rule of law. Otherwise the precedent is set to just let yourself be killed by violent protestors. I want to live in a place where my children will stay alive because of my protective actions, and view their father as a hero rather than criminal or enemy of the state for saving them from a violent situation. I'm sure all fathers would want that.
We have to acknowledge the special right that Americans have and that it is ultimately a good thing, like the Texas church shooter being quickly taken down by a good guy with a gun before police arrived.
Well you do not even have to take a basic gun course to get a gun in many USA States.
This is all about white society still trying to keep their knee on the necks of black's in the USA.
Where they historically always had the upper hand.
NO MORE, technology has come to the rescue of these folks and now everything which could have been covered up, swept under the table is no more.
That's a good thing and blacks are now taking the example of the Michigan Proud Boys and arming themselves with the same firepower and same protective vests. Do you find something wrong with this BUSHWHACKER?
So in this case Rittenhouse, seconds matter police minutes away DOES NOT APPLY, because he put himself in the line of danger.
Just like the three white cowards in the Aubrey case who believed because they were WHITE they could pursue a unarmed Black jogger down a street, box him in and shoot him for at very most a trespass. BUT THEY HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE PREVIOUS TRESPASS.
I suppose you think black folks should just sit back and take it in the neck when incidents like George Floyd take place.
Well guess what NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYMORE.
So while you are so big on demonstrations what did you think of the Proud Boys invading Congress and trying to overthrow the American peoples wishes.
Would you consider this bad behavior, or do they get a pass because they were mostly white TRUMP supporters?
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November 23rd, 2021, 03:21 PM
#138

Originally Posted by
JoePa
Yup and that is why Rittenhouse is so lucky, he could well have been shot by the demonstrator.
But that is OK if you want to still live in the Wild West, I am pretty sure that most rational folks around the World have scored America of the countries to visit list. They would all be safer in communist China having a visit.
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November 23rd, 2021, 03:26 PM
#139

Originally Posted by
impact
Yeh your right, the officer that murdered George Floyd in jail. The coward that took camera footage of Aubrey now has that same footage used by the prosecution against himself and the other two wanna police cowards.
Trump losing by 7 million votes, the good guys winning again.
Back home the good guys back in power for 4 more years, The Speaker of the House a Liberal re instated to that position once again.
Sunny ways my friend, the good guys are winning hands down. IMHO
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November 23rd, 2021, 03:29 PM
#140

Originally Posted by
Bowjob
1 thing your missing is that it wasn't his gun and he wasn't legally allowed to have one apperantly. Judge didn't allow any of that into the trial though.
I do agree when looking at this knowing the American laws that it was self defense at the end of the day there though.
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You are way off on that one. In that state he was totally legal at 17 to carry that firearm. Yes it belonged to someone else who legally carried it across the state line. The judge dismissed all those firearm charges as the weren't valid as admitted by the prosecution when he questioned them on the firearm. There's a video on it.
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendm...e-rittenhouse/
Last edited by smitty55; November 23rd, 2021 at 03:48 PM.