I don't understand antis

[Snowwalker]

When the conversation switches to "citiots" -- yes. Toronto is nearly 1/2 of the population of Ontario. Call me sensitive if you want.

You chose to live there, no one forced you to. There is a saying.."If you sleep with dogs, ......"

[LowbanksArcher]

When the conversation switches to "citiots" -- yes. Toronto is nearly 1/2 of the population of Ontario. Call me sensitive if you want.

You probably won't see much compassion for Toronto right now. Especially after the last election. Lol. I have friends from the city and individually, they are good people. But as a general voting populous, the best thing would be for it to slide into Lake Ontario.

[C.A. in TO]

You chose to live there, no one forced you to. There is a saying.."If you sleep with dogs, ......"

THAT is uncalled for. You actually have allies in the city whether you are aware of it or not. As I pointed out, nearly half of us are from somewhere else.

I, for one, moved here to take a job that will allow me to not be a drain on the rest of you or your children now and in my retirement. May have to take that pension and move south rather than north if I am to be branded for life for not totally hating my home.

... Signing off now to enjoy the holiday

[skeeter1]

While I agree many of the opinions like the woman in the OP are due to exposure (or lack of), it is also our ability to think for ourselves is being relinquished. Many of us on both sides of the debate are becoming a society of sheep unable to see the forest for the trees. Some posts I read on this site are equally biased and lacking content in the other direction so I don't think the epidemic is confined to "citiots". What ever happened to objectivity?

[skeeter1]

CA, some of those posts may even be contained within this thread

Enjoy the holiday.

[wolfhunter]

Most of it is ignorance and films like "Bambi". friend I've known for years found out I hunt deer. She said you can shoot them here? She was horrified Iwould even consider it. And Canada geese were just off the charts, "such beautiful birds how could you?"

Problem is there are anti's on this board as well.......

[blasted_saber]

Most of it is ignorance and films like "Bambi". friend I've known for years found out I hunt deer. She said you can shoot them here? She was horrified Iwould even consider it. And Canada geese were just off the charts, "such beautiful birds how could you?"

Problem is there are anti's on this board as well.......

I really dont think Bambi or films of that ilk have any effect. Its purely ignorance or in some cases downright stupidity.

[sickofitall]

9 times out of 10 the anti that most of us have the misfortune of meeting is nothing more than a massive hypocrite. I get a guilty pleasure about pointing out there hypocrisy by drawing attention to their leather shoes, wallet, purse jacket etc and the icing on the cake is when they admit to eating meat, the conversation need not go any further, I just flat out say to their face "you are a massive hypocrite" they usually are to flustered at that point to say anything more, and even if they did what could they say to not make themselves hypocrites.
In my opinion if you eat meat and use other products made from animal by products, you have zero opinion on hunting and wether it should be allowed or not.
Finally, as much as there are good people who hunt and fish, that by circumstance happen to live in the city (I happen to be one of them, and trust me if I had the means I'd be gone in a heartbeat) there are a group of urbanites that are ignorant, self important busy bodies that want to force their will on to the rural areas, they buy up rural land and then want all hunting to cease because now they own a piece (not just theirs, but the whole township) and because they have nothing better to do than dump on someone's parade, they get involved with municipal politics and pester the town councils. I've seen it happen a few times where a small group of like minded idiots get their way because nobody knew what was happening before it happened. Fortunately I've also seen where the antis tried and were basically laughed out of chambers because the word of their intent got out and the pushback by the community was so great they had no choice but to concede defeat. So yes, I do get why "city folk" are not so popular among the local rural citizens

[welsh]

It's not a function of intelligence or gullibility. It's a function of deep-seated cultural beliefs and values that carry with them certain sets of ideas. Ideas rooted in cultural values are not susceptible to correction via exposure to conflicting information. The person holding those beliefs instead engages in a subconscious attempt to invalidate the inconvenient facts, to protect the threatened core beliefs. This is a natural phenomenon and we all do it.

People who believe that the other side is stupid and gullible are in for a rude comeuppance when their own beliefs come under the microscope -- or at least, they would be if they were able to silence the mental nails-on-chalkboard effect of cognitive dissonance and look at their beliefs clearly.

One example of a factually incorrect belief that reflects cultural norms is the notion that most people living in cities are ignorant of where their food comes from and are opposed to hunting. This belief persists because it acts as salve to a strong sense of identity formed around hunting, a pursuit seen as threatened. It is reinforced by in-group information that includes fictionalized anecdotes, repeated urban legends, and so on. For example, a letter to the editor declares that meat should come from supermarkets because no animals are harmed that way; discounting that this is an obvious parody, it is taken to represent the typical view of people living in cities. Voila! People in cities are opposed to hunting because they are stupid and ignorant, their views can therefore be discarded as stupid, and the threat to core beliefs is resolved.

We are rarely aware of our own cognitive processes, but they are an open book. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[greatwhite]

Not all of those people are made up I have personally met people who did not realize that animals were killed for food. The scarey part is I have met quite a few.

It's not a function of intelligence or gullibility. It's a function of deep-seated cultural beliefs and values that carry with them certain sets of ideas. Ideas rooted in cultural values are not susceptible to correction via exposure to conflicting information. The person holding those beliefs instead engages in a subconscious attempt to invalidate the inconvenient facts, to protect the threatened core beliefs. This is a natural phenomenon and we all do it.

People who believe that the other side is stupid and gullible are in for a rude comeuppance when their own beliefs come under the microscope -- or at least, they would be if they were able to silence the mental nails-on-chalkboard effect of cognitive dissonance and look at their beliefs clearly.

One example of a factually incorrect belief that reflects cultural norms is the notion that most people living in cities are ignorant of where their food comes from and are opposed to hunting. This belief persists because it acts as salve to a strong sense of identity formed around hunting, a pursuit seen as threatened. It is reinforced by in-group information that includes fictionalized anecdotes, repeated urban legends, and so on. For example, a letter to the editor declares that meat should come from supermarkets because no animals are harmed that way; discounting that this is an obvious parody, it is taken to represent the typical view of people living in cities. Voila! People in cities are opposed to hunting because they are stupid and ignorant, their views can therefore be discarded as stupid, and the threat to core beliefs is resolved.

We are rarely aware of our own cognitive processes, but they are an open book. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.