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December 29th, 2014, 06:22 AM
#101
Has too much time on their hands
I wrote this a while ago. Was a Dodge man for years, but switched to F-Series truck with the business 5 yrs and have been very happy.
I had the 3.7L non eco (SC) and eco versions of the F150. Currently I own the F250 (SD). My observations are as follows:
3.7L Non Eco – 4X4 SC, great truck average fuel was 17L/100KM. Towed really well up to 6000lbs. 135L tank, 800-900K in city 900-1000 on the hwy. The reason I traded up to eco boost was, the motor seemed to always work in 3500-4500 RPM range and it never felt comfortable (personally), also the fuel mileage my buddy was getting with the full size F150 with 5.0L Coyote engine was 8-10L/100KM in the 4X4 version.
3.7 ECOBoost – Only had this truck for 6 months and traded up to F250, the 15K premium was not worth it, again the motor always worked hard under load and I never felt comfortable with this fact. Fuel eco was the same as 3.7L non eco, but overall I was not disappointed.
F250 SD – Love this truck, does all I asked for the business, but sucks in the woods, trails as a hunter. Fuel eco is 17-19L/100KM, Towing a 26ft trailer 32L/100M, Towing our 22ft pontoon 43L per 100KM
When this truck is done (F250 SD), I will get the F150, 3.7L 4X4 non eco back in the driveway.
In Jan trading the F250 for F150 5.0L, XLT. I want comfort and heated seats now...after the wife bought a new car with heated seats...so nice.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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December 29th, 2014 06:22 AM
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December 29th, 2014, 08:56 AM
#102

Originally Posted by
sweatervest
Here are some numbers for the debate, I posted on a previous post about my dodge eco diesel mileage. Updates since new, 7255km, average speed 48km/hr, with average fuel consumption of 9.1 L/100 km. this is since new. The mileage is split between highway and city, I would suggest with a roughly 50/50 split as the 48km average speed. This also includes about 500km highway towing a 3000lb load. Also of note should be that the last 6000k have been with the winter tires and steel rims, so I can only guess it would get better with the summer highway tires on it. I don't think anyone can argue these are good numbers, my only complaint is that diesel hasn't come down like the gas prices!
That is seriously impressive mileage. That's about 400litres less for every 10,000kms over the half ton gas alternatives. That adds up.
A trophy is in the eye of the bow holder
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December 29th, 2014, 09:46 AM
#103
Hunting truck why are you worried about fuel then ? That's the cheapest part of owning a vehicle. What about the stupid 20 inch highway tired they all come with now? Or air suspension what if you tear and air line off ? I geuss the real question is how far in the bush do you plan to drive
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December 29th, 2014, 11:47 AM
#104
Before you jump on an Eco boost F150, do your DD. Check out the TSB's listed in the net. I had a 2011, Eco boost, I ordered new. I loved the truck, good mileage, averaged 12-13 l/100 km, with 9l /100 km on highway with no load. It had great power and towed effortlessly. This past fall, heading north we drove some 18 hours in wet rainy weather. I pulled out to pass a truck, hit the gas and the engine died, missing badly, check engine light flashing. Long story short, it was a known problem with moisture in the charge air cooler for the turbos. When heavy acceleration, water was sucked into the motor. A TSB indicated a partial cover for the CAC, and re flash the ECM. Very shortly after that, at 100,000 kms, a noise developed in the motor when initial startup. I checked the web again, and found several issues in 2011's with stretched timing chains and worn gears. Well, after reading many TSB's and guys on the Ford Forums with similar issues, I traded her in on a 2014 5litre. My average mileage with the new 5 litre is the same as my Eco boost. My dealer was excellent to work with through all this.....so....do your DD.
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December 29th, 2014, 12:18 PM
#105
Those are impressive no's for the diesel. The manufacturers seem to hype their horsepower no's but really it's the torque and at how low in the rev range what counts.
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December 29th, 2014, 01:05 PM
#106
Has too much time on their hands
Rick... I agree with 5.0L Coyote motor (F150), my buddy has it in his truck and was getting better milage than me with 6cyl non eco 4X4 F150.

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Before you jump on an Eco boost F150, do your DD. Check out the TSB's listed in the net. I had a 2011, Eco boost, I ordered new. I loved the truck, good mileage, averaged 12-13 l/100 km, with 9l /100 km on highway with no load. It had great power and towed effortlessly. This past fall, heading north we drove some 18 hours in wet rainy weather. I pulled out to pass a truck, hit the gas and the engine died, missing badly, check engine light flashing. Long story short, it was a known problem with moisture in the charge air cooler for the turbos. When heavy acceleration, water was sucked into the motor. A TSB indicated a partial cover for the CAC, and re flash the ECM. Very shortly after that, at 100,000 kms, a noise developed in the motor when initial startup. I checked the web again, and found several issues in 2011's with stretched timing chains and worn gears. Well, after reading many TSB's and guys on the Ford Forums with similar issues, I traded her in on a 2014 5litre. My average mileage with the new 5 litre is the same as my Eco boost. My dealer was excellent to work with through all this.....so....do your DD.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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January 5th, 2015, 06:35 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
oaknut
Not picking on anyone but thats not great mileage. That roughly works out to 14 liters per 100km or just under 17mpg. Considering the guys in the Fords are regularly getting 23 mpg and some of the new chevs are topping that it would leave the Dodge battling it out with the Tundra for worst half ton mileage.
i average 11.5L/100 km with my 2012 sierra... my buddy has a 2012 ram... it costs us both roughly $20 in gas to drive to north bay... difference is he lives 20 minutes closer than i do LOL
fishy steve
id rather be lost in the woods, than found in the city!
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January 5th, 2015, 06:47 PM
#108
my last 3 trucks have bin either chev or gm, though i really have no brand loyalty... never had any major problems with any of them, and all have bin worked hard... i actually had planned on buying a ford when i bought my new sierra, what it came down to for me though was trade in value... the ford dealer offered me $6000 less trade in value for my truck than gm did... talk about a slap in the face... glad they did though, as this truck has bin the best truck i have had
fishy steve
id rather be lost in the woods, than found in the city!
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January 6th, 2015, 11:25 AM
#109
I got my 2014 F150 5L/V8 in October - love every side of it - took it in the bush, highway, city - am at 14.8L average with 90% of my drive in the city. Got the super crew cab - plenty of room - plenty of power - plenty of fun.
I am told by more experienced truck drivers that parts are a lot cheaper than the DR 1500. My advice - try them both.
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February 9th, 2015, 09:07 PM
#110
I have a F150... Yes it has had problems... All do... But it does the trick... I was working in machines area at a GM dealer a few months ago, and when talking to them, 2 both said even they (as GM mechanics) wouldn't buy a gm right now because all the problems they have... For the Rams, as everyone says the front ends suck and fall apart, they seem to have come a long way with quality since no longer being "dodges" and only being "rams", that being said, they must be a reason they sell them that cheap... That makes me not trust them