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    Quote Originally Posted by Cintax View Post
    I realize that, it just seemed like you didn't want to hear it.
    There was a little debate over what they are doing being legal or not, but the advise agreed with my option that they are write-offs.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    As you have posted:

    Section 5(1)(2)
    5. (1) A person shall not hunt or trap specially protected wildlife or any bird that
    belongs to a species that is wild by nature and is not a game bird. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22,
    s. 2 (5).
    Exceptions
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to,
    (a) an American crow, brown-headed cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow,
    red-winged blackbird or starling;

    (b) a bird that is declared to be a migratory game bird in the Convention set out in the
    Schedule to the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994 (Canada);
    (c) a bird that has been transported into Ontario, or propagated from stock that was
    transported into Ontario, and that is released with the Minister’s authorization
    under section 54, other than a specially protected bird or a member of a species
    prescribed by the regulations for the purpose of this clause; or
    (d) any other bird, other than a specially protected bird, that is hunted with the
    authorization

    In other words , shoot away, with no restrictions

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycee View Post
    As you have posted:

    Section 5(1)(2)
    5. (1) A person shall not hunt or trap specially protected wildlife or any bird that
    belongs to a species that is wild by nature and is not a game bird. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22,
    s. 2 (5).
    Exceptions
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to,
    (a) an American crow, brown-headed cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow,
    red-winged blackbird or starling;

    (b) a bird that is declared to be a migratory game bird in the Convention set out in the
    Schedule to the Migratory Birds Convention Act, 1994 (Canada);
    (c) a bird that has been transported into Ontario, or propagated from stock that was
    transported into Ontario, and that is released with the Minister’s authorization
    under section 54, other than a specially protected bird or a member of a species
    prescribed by the regulations for the purpose of this clause; or
    (d) any other bird, other than a specially protected bird, that is hunted with the
    authorization

    In other words , shoot away, with no restrictions
    You missed this section :
    6. (1) Except under the authority of a licence and in accordance with the regulations, a
    person shall not hunt or trap,
    (a) big game;
    (b) a game mammal that is not referred to in clause (a);
    (c) a game bird;
    (d) a furbearing mammal;
    (e) a game reptile;
    (f) a game amphibian;
    (g) a bird referred to in subsection 5 (2); or
    (h) wildlife that is not referred to in clauses (a) to (g), the hunting of which is not
    prohibited by section 5. 1997, c. 41, s. 6 (1); 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (7).

    And do not forget the often quoted definition of hunting...
    “hunting” includes,
    (a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting
    at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
    (b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
    except that “hunting” does not include,
    (c) trapping, or
    (d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a
    purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife
    is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,
    and “hunt” and “hunter” have corresponding meanings; (“chasse”, “chasser”, “chasseur”)

    Now since the birds are being shot at regardless if they are killed or not it is in fact hunting.
    But I think you are just having me on for sport.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    You missed this section :
    6. (1) Except under the authority of a licence and in accordance with the regulations, a
    person shall not hunt or trap,
    (a) big game;
    (b) a game mammal that is not referred to in clause (a);
    (c) a game bird;
    (d) a furbearing mammal;
    (e) a game reptile;
    (f) a game amphibian;
    (g) a bird referred to in subsection 5 (2); or
    (h) wildlife that is not referred to in clauses (a) to (g), the hunting of which is not
    prohibited by section 5. 1997, c. 41, s. 6 (1); 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (7).

    And do not forget the often quoted definition of hunting...
    “hunting” includes,
    (a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting
    at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
    (b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
    except that “hunting” does not include,
    (c) trapping, or
    (d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a
    purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife
    is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,
    and “hunt” and “hunter” have corresponding meanings; (“chasse”, “chasser”, “chasseur”)

    Now since the birds are being shot at regardless if they are killed or not it is in fact hunting.
    But I think you are just having me on for sport.
    If they get themselves in hot water,at all, this will certainly do it,over and above any municipal no-discharge by-laws. I have an idiot neighbor that somebody dropped a dime on and it snowballed from the by-law charge to FWCA charges to criminal charges of "careless discharge". By the time they were done,he thought a building fell on him.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    If they get themselves in hot water,at all, this will certainly do it,over and above any municipal no-discharge by-laws. I have an idiot neighbor that somebody dropped a dime on and it snowballed from the by-law charge to FWCA charges to criminal charges of "careless discharge". By the time they were done,he thought a building fell on him.
    Well like many on here have said, I told them the stove was hot. Now if they still have to burn their hands, they can't cry they were not warned.. As I said earlier in the thread, what seemed to bother me the most was how upset the wife got.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    Well like many on here have said, I told them the stove was hot. Now if they still have to burn their hands, they can't cry they were not warned.. As I said earlier in the thread, what seemed to bother me the most was how upset the wife got.
    Well lets put it this way bud fickle wives are easily replaced and if she gives you a headache over this I guarantee you will be replacing her Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400bigbear View Post
    Well lets put it this way bud fickle wives are easily replaced and if she gives you a headache over this I guarantee you will be replacing her Lol
    She is not giving me any headaches over it. She is majorly PO with them.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    I wouldn't be worried about hunting related infractions. The fact that a neighbor's house was damaged by the discharge of a firearm, regardless of circumstances, can land you in hot water. Careless use of a firearm may be issued.
    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmer View Post
    I wouldn't be worried about hunting related infractions. The fact that a neighbor's house was damaged by the discharge of a firearm, regardless of circumstances, can land you in hot water. Careless use of a firearm may be issued.
    Not My problem....I have nothing to do with it, and am just going to let them dig their hole. It's not under my skin any more, I got it off my chest and vented.
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowwalker View Post
    Not My problem....I have nothing to do with it, and am just going to let them dig their hole. It's not under my skin any more, I got it off my chest and vented.
    Now somebody give this fella a cuff and take him out for a beer or three Methinks he got it . Lol

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