Carry shotgun while filling feeders?

[redd foxx]

Revr called and got an answer. If someone doesn't like it that's up to them. Call and get your own interpretation then. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if one c.o. says one thing and another says something different in interpreting the law. The court will make the final decision should it get to that.

Thanks for posting what you found out revr!!

[Gun Nut]

Okay, revr I'm on my own property, I'm restoring a fence line, I have the necessary tools with me to do the task, because I'm in an area where there bears, I always carry a high power rifle or shotgun and slugs for protection, I sometime have them encased. This would be perfectly okay, because my intention is to do fence restoration not hunting?

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut

[greatwhite]

It is still up to the CO and how he interprets it. Yes you can always fight it in court.

But if the CO is in a bad mood you might get a fine.

Revr called and got an answer. If someone doesn't like it that's up to them. Call and get your own interpretation then. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if one c.o. says one thing and another says something different in interpreting the law. The court will make the final decision should it get to that.

Thanks for posting what you found out revr!!

[werner.reiche]

Here are some useful opinions from CGN on carrying a firearm in the bush.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum.../t-418833.html

Including an email/response to/from the MNR.

Asked MNR this back in the spring, maybe this will clear things up a little
Question:

From: *****
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:17 PM
To: NRIC - Hunting (MNR); Webmaster (MNR)
Subject: MNR Website Inquiry: Hunting (English)
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(*****) on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 21:17:12

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Message: My family and I are planning a canoe trip with some friends on crown land in the Bancroft area and I would like to know the policy regarding firearms and target shooting. thanks

Response:


Thank you for your enquiry.

Generally speaking, you may target practice on Crown land unless otherwise posted. Crown land use means leaving no trace. You must clean up your empty brass or hulls and targets when you are done. Failing to do so or leaving any material/garbage behind could result in serious fines under the Public Lands Act

You must consider township, municipal, or city by-laws before discharging firearms. Municipalities or cities have a no-discharge of firearms by-law within town limits. Sometimes town limits actually extend further than the town itself. You would have to contact the town or township to ensure that the area you are practicing on is not within a “no discharge” zone.

Another thing to consider is if you plan on practicing on Sundays. If the town or municipality does not allow Sunday gun hunting, then you could not practice on Sundays. Even though you are not "hunting", the by-law prohibiting Sunday gun hunting may be for any discharge of firearms. A list and map of municipalities allowing Sunday gun hunting is available online at http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business...02_173985.html

It is important to remember that because you would most likely be practicing in an area that is known to be inhabited by wildlife, it could be mistaken that you are hunting. You must keep your firearm unloaded and encased while you walk to the area you are practicing, then set up your targets before you load your firearm and begin practicing. When you are finished, you must unload and encase your firearm again before you take down your targets and walk back out of the area. Even though you are not hunting, if you are walking around an area inhabited by wildlife, it would look as if you are hunting, and you could get charged for hunting out of season.


When target practicing, you must consider what is behind your target should your projectile miss the mark. Use a suitable backstop. Discharging firearms carelessly is an offence. Persons who discharge firearms without due care and attention or consideration for persons and property are liable to a fine of up to $25,000 or imprisonment for up to two years – or both.


For more information contact your local MNR office to where you plan on performing your target practice. A list of MNR offices, and their contact information, is available online at http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/ContactU...02_179002.html

[Waftrudnir]

I have some concerns about the Sunday gun "hunting" section: it's not the MNR's business and it would also mean that you could not operate a licensed shooting range or a licensed game farm; not so sure about that either.
anyway, it's a good reference regarding the topic on hand

[MikePal]

Actually MikePal it because of the ethics lecture, if it come to it, what I would be pointing, and shooting would be a slug. My personal ethics dictate when I shoot I shoot to kill. Its not a case of should I be walking around with slugs. Its more the case I will be walking around with slugs. I have no interest in hunting bear, but I have the greatest respect for their strength and agility, so if I do shoot it will be a case of self-preservation.

You missed the point of the discussion; what if you were out hunting Grouse, Quail etc, a bear charges and your shot gun is loaded with Birdshot ...

Unless of course you are using slugs to hunt Quail...

However if I had birdshot in, and a bear charged me I "might " use the bs, rather than reload with slugs!!! Duh, let me think about that!

If I were hunting grouse and worried about a bear I would stop worrying and shoot it at close range with birdshot if that is all that I had.

I was told by a forester in BC, they carried shotguns. First round was bird shot, the rest were buckshot then slugs......
Like Brent said, at 7 feet you wouldn't have enough time to realize what was happening, let alone react.

[MikePal]

It is important to remember that because you would most likely be practicing in an area that is known to be inhabited by wildlife, it could be mistaken that you are hunting. You must keep your firearm unloaded and encased while you walk to the area you are practicing, then set up your targets before you load your firearm and begin practicing. When you are finished, you must unload and encase your firearm again before you take down your targets and walk back out of the area. Even though you are not hunting, if you are walking around an area inhabited by wildlife, it would look as if you are hunting, and you could get charged for hunting out of season.

Thanks for posting that info Werner...it clarifies what is expected of you when you use the excuse "I was out target Shooting'...

So now you left honestly telling a the LEO you were carrying it for 'protection'...and let the chips fall where they may.

[Gun Nut]

You missed the point of the discussion; what if you were out hunting Grouse, Quail etc, a bear charges and your shot gun is loaded with Birdshot ...

Unless of course you are using slugs to hunt Quail...

Hello again MikePal I should have mention when I grouse hunt I use a SXS double barrel. In a double a slug is just a trigger pull away, and the bear will be close, because double barrels are notorious for handling slugs badly at a distance, at least that has been my experience.

You don't stop hunting because you get old. You get old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut

[greatwhite]

LMAO.

Wasn't there a saying when fishing big bait big fish.

So maybe buckshot for big quail and big grouse. Yum 50 pound grouse and quail.

You missed the point of the discussion; what if you were out hunting Grouse, Quail etc, a bear charges and your shot gun is loaded with Birdshot ...

Unless of course you are using slugs to hunt Quail...

[revr]

Okay, revr I'm on my own property, I'm restoring a fence line, I have the necessary tools with me to do the task, because I'm in an area where there bears, I always carry a high power rifle or shotgun and slugs for protection, I sometime have them encased. This would be perfectly okay, because my intention is to do fence restoration not hunting?

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
-Gun Nut

exactly, that was how they put it, if you have just reason to require protection eg bears in the area you are good, as long as you are not small game hunting at the same time.