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November 28th, 2015, 08:15 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
sawbill
Go before a JP and enter a plea of Guilty with an explanation.
Your explanation is that you were expecting to receive it in the mail as you have with other questionaires. This is a reasonable excuse.
Most often you will get the benefit of the doubt and receive a lesser penalty.
This what i rely would like to due and have being advised to due by many of you guys! But like most of you,work feeds my family and any spare time at this time of year is spent trapping,hunting and fishing!So im going to just pay the fine and move on ! Even if i thingk wath happened is morally wrong and that its a shame that our ressources are runned by poeple with this kind of attitude(slap fine,peepee off hunters...) I am happy that so many of you guys ( my fellow outdoorsman) feel the same way!Know as soon as my big monster 8 pionter can expopse him self when im actualy in the stand, i will forget about this hole thing! lol
And hopfully not ever forget a to return a questionnaire!lol
Last edited by domination; November 28th, 2015 at 08:18 PM.
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November 28th, 2015 08:15 PM
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November 28th, 2015, 08:26 PM
#102
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November 28th, 2015, 09:01 PM
#103
There be something on the ticket stating the specific charge under the Fish and Wildlife Act. I'd be curious as to what it is. I was unaware there were any fines attached to a failure to report.
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November 29th, 2015, 08:09 AM
#104

Originally Posted by
sawbill
Go before a JP and enter a plea of Guilty with an explanation.
Your explanation is that you were expecting to receive it in the mail as you have with other questionaires. This is a reasonable excuse.
Most often you will get the benefit of the doubt and receive a lesser penalty.
exactly Go before a JP and enter a plea of Guilty with an explanation.
I did this once with a parking ticket for parking on the boulevard in front of my own house.
I was going to plead innocent but the cop didn't show up (he's allowed to miss the 1st time) but if you miss you're in contempt of court! So I would have missed work twice. Trust me this is a game the cops play because they know the average guy can't afford to miss or travel twice.
so my only alternative to talk to the judge was to plea guilty with an explanation.
Police did not show up (MNR might not either). I tied up the court for an hour with diagrams, road widths, emergency vehicle widths and specifications, distance from curb bylaws, etc etc etc. So I made it very clear that although the officer used his discretion I too used my discretion. In the end it appeared that my discretion outwayed the officers discretion and I was found guilty with a suspended sentence. NO FINE! I then stated how disappointed I was that I could not face my accuser.
You shoulda seen the snarl up in that court I caused. There were cops and detectives and lawyers and guys in handcuffs that had to see and listen to my presentation for over an hour.
There were 2 other guys going up right after me for the same offence. parking on boulevards. The judge just waved the hammer and sent us all out at once!
GO TO COURT! plead discrimination or harassment. Ask why of all the hunters in Ontario that did not submit - why only guys in your unit got slapped by the same MNR office/officer. I would run an ad and try to find out all the others and you should all go to court - ALL OF YOU. Plead guilty with an explanation (which is your right). You are allowed to talk to explain your actions and as long as you don't repeat yourself you can tie up that court forever.
Been there - done it!
Last edited by SK33T3R; November 29th, 2015 at 08:17 AM.
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
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November 29th, 2015, 08:46 AM
#105
After reading this thread I'm kind of disgusted by the attitudes of some. There are rules and regulations that we must follow and if you choose to break them man up and pay the consequences. The excuses are sickening. Its a cash grab....bull if you don't want to pay them send in your report. They should pay postage...bull use the free service online as your already here aren't you? They should of reminded me...bull you remembered to apply on your own and go out hunting yet somehow forgot too forgot to submit? Tie up the courts to lessen your punishment......bull as already said man up buttercup. No wonder enforcement is bogged down with all the baby sitting legit hunters expect to have can only imagine what the criminals get away with. Do your part regulate yourselves please.
Time in the outdoors is never wasted
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November 29th, 2015, 09:32 AM
#106

Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
After reading this thread I'm kind of disgusted by the attitudes of some. There are rules and regulations that we must follow and if you choose to break them man up and pay the consequences. The excuses are sickening. Its a cash grab....bull if you don't want to pay them send in your report. They should pay postage...bull use the free service online as your already here aren't you? They should of reminded me...bull you remembered to apply on your own and go out hunting yet somehow forgot too forgot to submit? Tie up the courts to lessen your punishment......bull as already said man up buttercup. No wonder enforcement is bogged down with all the baby sitting legit hunters expect to have can only imagine what the criminals get away with. Do your part regulate yourselves please.
Judge and Jury now?
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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November 29th, 2015, 09:35 AM
#107

Originally Posted by
finsfurfeathers
After reading this thread I'm kind of disgusted by the attitudes of some. There are rules and regulations that we must follow and if you choose to break them man up and pay the consequences. The excuses are sickening. Its a cash grab....bull if you don't want to pay them send in your report. They should pay postage...bull use the free service online as your already here aren't you? They should of reminded me...bull you remembered to apply on your own and go out hunting yet somehow forgot too forgot to submit? Tie up the courts to lessen your punishment......bull as already said man up buttercup. No wonder enforcement is bogged down with all the baby sitting legit hunters expect to have can only imagine what the criminals get away with. Do your part regulate yourselves please.
So you rely think that CO pulling a list of hunters , driving around after super time ,handing ticket for "failure to report" is a good use of the "bogged down enforcement" ! Come on man! get real!!! This kind of narrow sited attidude is waths discusting! It may be worth taking a day off work to go fight this "money crab"
Thanks for the last push "buttercup"!
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November 29th, 2015, 09:37 AM
#108
He already admitted his guilt.
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November 29th, 2015, 09:55 AM
#109
What I have a hard time understanding is when a person screws up and forgets to send in a mandatory report (that he knows he has to send in) he has to complain about a CO giving him a ticket. If it was me I would be embarrassed and wouldn't be admitting that on an open forum. Pay the ticket and take responsibility for YOUR screw up. As far as I'm concerned the CO showing up at your house at supper is a good use of his time. Why would he show up looking for you during the day when most people are working. One last thought, if people like you filled in their MANDATORY reports the CO would have a lot more time to chase serious offenders and not waste his time on you.
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November 29th, 2015, 10:05 AM
#110
I'm curious, has anyone here been fined of know of anyone being fined and how did they handle it?